Pope gets radical and woos the Anglicans

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Pope gets radical and woos the Anglicans

By Damian Thompson

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Two and a half years after the name “Josephum” came booming down from the balcony of St Peter’s, making liberal Catholics weep with rage, Pope Benedict XVI is revealing his programme of reform. And it is breathtakingly ambitious.

The 80-year-old Pontiff is planning a purification of the Roman liturgy in which decades of trendy innovations will be swept away. This recovery of the sacred is intended to draw Catholics closer to the Orthodox and ultimately to heal the 1,000 year Great Schism. But it is also designed to attract vast numbers of conservative Anglicans, who will be offered the protection of the Holy Father if they covert en masse.

The liberal cardinals don’t like the sound of it at all.
 
Thank God. I pray that the Traditional Anglican Catholics with come into full communion with the Catholic Church.

Catholig
 
Catholig said:
Thank God. I pray that the Traditional Anglican Catholics with come into full communion with the Catholic Church.

Catholig
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I agree. We can swap our own “progressive” Catholics with the Anglicans for their conservatives. Everybody’ll be satisfied and happy. 🙂
 
Pope Benedict Rocks my face!!! May God grant him many years.
 
If Pope Benedict XVI reigns for the next 10 years then he will HAVE to be called GREAT as well!!
 
Things are looking up, but remember the devil has plenty of tricks up his sleeve to thwart these hoped-for and momentous events.
 
Why the Anglicans and not Presbyterians, for example? What’s the big deal with the Anglicans, whom Leo XIII virtually/effectively excommunicated? Don’t they have heresies which need to be reconciled somehow?
 
Why the Anglicans and not Presbyterians, for example? What’s the big deal with the Anglicans, whom Leo XIII virtually/effectively excommunicated? Don’t they have heresies which need to be reconciled somehow?
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Yes, but Anglicanism still retained three orders (bishops/priests/deacons) and teaches the importance of the apostolic succession and sacraments, even if theirs are invalid. They understand the historic and theological importance of the Liturgy and hold a far more comprehensive view of ecclesiastical history than Presbyterians or other Protestants.

High Church Anglicans, who call themselves Anglo-Catholics, not only hold the sacramental life dear, but also devotion to Our Lady and the saints, and pray regularly for the dead. This makes them better candidates for reunion than the others. 😉
 
BobP123 said:
Why the Anglicans and not Presbyterians, for example? What’s the big deal with the Anglicans, whom Leo XIII virtually/effectively excommunicated? Don’t they have heresies which need to be reconciled somehow?
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As far as I know, there are no heresies in High Church Anglicanism. Their liturgy would probably have to be revised to include prayers for the Pope, but that’s about it. Many High Church Anglicans are Catholic, in every way except obediance to the Pope. They pray the Rosary, the have the Liturgy of the Hours, and they have a great devotion to Mary and the Eucharist. They have a very rich Tradition that would be a very welcome Rite of the Church.
 
But they also have married priests and bishops. I doubt the TAC will back down on that. Why I think they end up Orthodox and this turns out to be a tempest in a teapot so to speak.
 
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The liberal cardinals don’t like the sound of it at all.
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headline does not match content of the article, and article has most of the facts wrong or distorted (why am I not surprised) but hey, if it upsets the liberal cardinals, I am all for it.
 
puzzleannie said:
headline does not match content of the article, and article has most of the facts wrong or distorted (why am I not surprised) but hey, if it upsets the liberal cardinals, I am all for it.
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Headlines are usually written by editors to grab…er…headlines. They aren’t usually written by the writer.
 
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But they also have married priests and bishops. I doubt the TAC will back down on that. Why I think they end up Orthodox and this turns out to be a tempest in a teapot so to speak.
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I’ve heard the TAC bishops are willing to resign if their being married is a major stumbling block to reunion. Married priests shouldn’t be a problem.
 
I have got nothing but the highest respect for Pope Benedict…He truly is a man of God, with a mission to unite the Church and bring it into a place of dynamic orthodoxy.

Let us storm heaven with a thousand prayers for this great and humble man.
 
I agree with the “spin” the author is putting on the situation…

If the bishops reject the Papal promulgations, then they should be called to Rome, quietly retired to monasteries, and replaced. If they engender liturgical abuses, they should be chastized and/or removed/retired.

Just like Archbishop Eparch Nicholas + Elko (Byzantine-Ruthenian) was. (He was made a Titular Archbishop, and after his “cashiering” by being recalled to Rome and not permitted back to his see, then eventually replaced, and later allowed to serve as a Roman Auxiliary Bishop.)

I do hope that the TAC is brought in as a particular church sui iuris… to protect it from latin abuses.

I hope the extant bishops are allowed to remain in place, but would expect them to be replaced by celibate priests being elevated to fill their sees later.
 
Wolseley said:
I agree. We can swap our own “progressive” Catholics with the Anglicans for their conservatives. Everybody’ll be satisfied and happy. 🙂
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Wouldn’t that be swapping one stumbling block with another?
 
thank you god and may pope benedict have many more years ahead of him.
 
“This would mean that they could worship together, free from bullying by local bishops who dislike the newcomers’ conservatism and would rather “dialogue” with Anglicans than receive them into the Church.”

I loved that part of the article. Sometimes I get so darned tired of the term “dialogue” being used as an excuse…
 
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