Pope has immunity in abuse trials: Vatican

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Sigh, the sovereign immunity is a valid argument to bring up in a case, if it was not granted how much would the Vatican/Pope have to pay in court fees and attorney costs. That money has to come from somewhere. Also sovereign immunity isn’t a optional doctrine, meaning the US courts have to decide if it applies. Such as it is in order to determine if the courts have jurisdiction over the Pope, they have to decide whether actions taken by the Vatican are subject to sovereign immunity.
Head of state immunity is different but doesn’t apply because these actions didn’t occur when Benedict was head of state.

What I don’t understand is that the abuse, happened 30 years ago or more, when Benedict wasn’t even in the Vatican and when he was his office had nothing to do with sex abuse (it didn’t have authority to deal with it until 2001, correct me if I am wrong) So what sort of relevant information are they hoping to get from the Pope? 🤷
 
**NO ONE takes the CHURCH SERIOUSLY! **
No one has to. Truth is not determined by majority vote or by the transient leanings of public opinion. And the doctrines of the Church will still hold true, regardless of whether anyone takes it seriously or not.
 
Friend,

I was not attempting to re-open the debate on mandatory celebacy of priests in the Roman Catholic Church. My note was pointing out that, given the current as well as historical context, the Roman Catholic Church is going to have to answer the question again for the public, if it desires to retain the good will of the public. As for sheer numbers of child abuse in general, what you say below may be correct. However, for this peculiar abomination of abuse by male priests upon pre- and post- pubescent boys, I’m not aware of another institution on earth that has the sheer enormity of this problem that the Roman Catholic Church does… and only the Roman Catholic Church, among all the Christians of the world, retains this late 10th century discipline. This is not found at nearly so high a level among the Eastern Churches, nor the Protestant Churches, where the norm is for their priests/pastors to be married. It is something that simply needs to be addressed and dealt with. I’m not trying to make Rome’s case, nor refute it-- just stating that Rome needs to make it again for a public that it losing faith in her.

Grace and peace-- and blessed Good Friday.
Celibacy has nothing to do with this, considering abuse in families with married fathers are far more likely to commit abuse, than nearly anywhere else. Further, while this is not the place, there is very strong Biblical evidence for celibacy–this site has many threads addressing that suject.
 
Friend,

I was not attempting to re-open the debate on mandatory celebacy of priests in the Roman Catholic Church. My note was pointing out that, given the current as well as historical context, the Roman Catholic Church is going to have to answer the question again for the public, if it desires to retain the good will of the public. As for sheer numbers of child abuse in general, what you say below may be correct. However, for this peculiar abomination of abuse by male priests upon pre- and post- pubescent boys, I’m not aware of another institution on earth that has the sheer enormity of this problem that the Roman Catholic Church does… and only the Roman Catholic Church, among all the Christians of the world, retains this late 10th century discipline. This is not found at nearly so high a level among the Eastern Churches, nor the Protestant Churches, where the norm is for their priests/pastors to be married. It is something that simply needs to be addressed and dealt with. I’m not trying to make Rome’s case, nor refute it-- just stating that Rome needs to make it again for a public that it losing faith in her.

Grace and peace-- and blessed Good Friday.
The Church is rountinely asked questions about celibacy, that is nothing new. Regarding the subject of abuse, when the Church is asked about celibacy, it will provide an answer very close to what I provided you. The Church has no reason to go further. There is nothing wrong or unBiblical about celibacy, so the Church will likely never feel compelled to go much further than what I already stated.

The interesting thing to note (and most people do NOT know this) is that the abuses peaked in the USA in 1980 (30 years ago), and then proceeded to plummet for years, until the early and mid-90s when the claims of abuse were quite low. That means that the Church already fixed the major problem, yet it is did so quietly. What we see today is the consequence of the grave sins that took place from the 1960s through 1980s. Many people think the abuse scandal in the USA is ongoing, when in fact it is not. The media and the lawyers keep-up the notion that abuse is still widespread in the Church, that is simply a lie and they know that, but when they see a bucket of money, and when they see an opportunity to deeply attack the Church, than they likely always “go fot it.”

Go here: jfpblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/some-rational-perspective-regarding-catholic-priests-sexual-abuse/
 
The leadership is protecting itself because many men in the Vatican are guilty of sexual abuse! The numbers probably run in the millions of victims and thousands of clergy/nuns through the centuries. A council needs to be called with full disclosure, defrocking, and legal prosecution. This crisis is not going to evaporate. This is not the Middle Ages where people are helpless and frightened into silence. Catholics worldwide need to withhold ALL funding, until a Holy Council is convened! :mad:
Something needs to be done and soon…It’s going to get worse before it gets better…More people who once kept quiet in defense of your church are becoming more disillusioned as each new fire erupts…Leadership must do some serious housekeeping or this will just go on and one…*(The media lives for scandal especially within the body of Christ…It should be above reproach in this wicked and perverse generation…I know someone that was personally affected during the last flare up and they now are starting a healing process as members of the Anglican church…Pray for the right thing to be done as it affect christianity as a whole…k
 
I think that if the Pope were responsible he would say so. I have watched his actions and no one, I MEAN NO ONE has done more to see that justice is done than he.

It seems to me that people want to see immediate damnation from the pope to what we all see as an abomination. That is not what the catholic church is about. There is but one sin that is unforgiveable and child molestation is not it. Yep, I am saying once again the unpopular thing. I am not standing up for Pedophiles (though I may be accused of such) I stand with the church whome our lord founded! I stand for the promise given on the rock. The one thats says satan will not prevail! ( lower case intended) I don’t know much about Revelations… I don’t try to understand it. I know that we are headed into the “tribulation” of our faith. For me and mine I believe what Christ himself said that we will prevail, those of us that keep the faith!
 
I think that if the Pope were responsible he would say so. I have watched his actions and no one, I MEAN NO ONE has done more to see that justice is done than he.

It seems to me that people want to see immediate damnation from the pope to what we all see as an abomination. That is not what the catholic church is about. There is but one sin that is unforgiveable and child molestation is not it. Yep, I am saying once again the unpopular thing. I am not standing up for Pedophiles (though I may be accused of such) I stand with the church whome our lord founded! I stand for the promise given on the rock. The one thats says satan will not prevail! ( lower case intended) I don’t know much about Revelations… I don’t try to understand it. I know that we are headed into the “tribulation” of our faith. For me and mine I believe what Christ himself said that we will prevail, those of us that keep the faith!
People want answers…Members of your church have a right to having godly, above reproach leadership…Forgiveness or lack of in is not the issue…It’s the cover up and movement for them to keep spreading perversion is the issue…The longer things go unresolved the more trust is lost…The body of Christ will survive…The Holy Spirit will continue to draw the lost to Christ in spite of all the flesh and corruption within the body…Hot, cold and luke warm are around us all…The longer the Pope holds out the worse it gets…The Corinth church needed to clean house for it to grow and mature…Just like one rotten apple affects the whole basket…Now they are going back to what JPII knew when Ratzinger was in charge of the issues…It just keeps snowballing til someone steps up to the plate and takes responsibility…
 
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NO ONE takes the CHURCH SERIOUSLY! The Church CANNOT EFFECTIVELY LEAD or PREACH the GOSPEL**
I’m going to disagree with you here. At our Holy Thursday mass we had 1,000 people attending: ages 3 to 99. On the altar there were five ordained brothers, six lay brothers, and four secular deacons. All serve in one parish.

The Blessed Sacrament was exposed in a side chapel after the Lord’s Supper. There were people in adoration from 8:00 pm to 12:00 am. There was an all night vigil in the garden of the passion which began at midnight and ended at 3:00 with the Passion of the Lord.

There were about 1,000 people at the Passion of the Lord and again later in the evening at the stations of the cross.

From what I’m hearing from our brothers, religious of other orders, diocesan priests and seeing on EWTN in Rome, the number of worshippers is higher this year than any other year in the last 10.

I believe that people realize that a disciplinary problem is not the same as a doctrinal or moral theology problem. The Church’s teachings on faith and morals have not changed and do not change regardless of the sins of the Church. As more Christians become better educated in the faith, they can discriminate between the sins of man and the revealed truth found in the Church. People are not about to abandon revealed truth, because someone sinned.

I sincerely think that we are going to see great saints from this crisis. It has always happened in the hsitory of the Church. Everytime there is a great crisis, the most charismatic reformers emerge and they don’t reform the Church punitively, but from the bottom up. It happened during the great heresies between east and west during the 5th century. We go the great Fathers of the Church. Then there were the Middle Ages with decadence, sexual abuse, abuse of power, heresy, wars, lax laity, ignorant priests. Along come Francis of Assisi and Dominic Guzman and reform the Church. Francis converts the Catholics and Dominic the heretics.

Then comes the Protestant Reformation and along came Teresa of Avila, John of the Cross, Ignatius of Loyola. Then came the French rebellion and secularism. Along came Vicent de Paul and Louise the Marillac, Francis de Sales and others.

World War II came and the world was in darkness. There came Maximilian Kolbe, Edith Stein, Padre Pio.

The saints of this crisis are going to be two. One is going to be a post-abortive mother who will stand for conversion and penance. The other will be a victim of sexual abuse who will stand for forgiveness, mercy and commpassion.

Wait and see.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
So I have a question for you… What in the world would satisfy you? What if our Pope is innocent of the charges. What if he is telling the truth that all he knew about that priest was that he had committed a sexual impoprietary? At that point in time they did what they knew to do. 20 years later the priest was dying and wrote a letter, funny thing is they never published this letter! so they made it out to be in the press what they wanted it to be as far as our knowledge is but what if they did publish it now? What if it proved what the Vatican said? would your thirst for justice be fulfilled or would you rather a man who was not the head of the church and who may have not have known the particulars pay for something he knew nothing about. Would that be enough for you? somehow I don’t think so.

How about the teachers who committed the same atrocity? shall we blame the principle, come on now by your own confession they should have known. What if the all that was know at the time was this was just an aberration and with “proper counseling it could be taken care of”. You forget there are many of us who were victims of what people did not know about child predators of the 1970’s and 1980’s. I was abused by a teacher in the 1980’s the result was counseling for this teacher, who remained a teacher until 2007 when she retired. How about I go after the principle for what he didn’t know back then about the children she may have abused before she retired. I don’t think that is fair as if any principle knows now what they didn’t know then they would put a stop to the abuse just as our Pope has done. You are suggesting our Pope had the a way to see in the future to know what wasn’t known then. I want you to keep in mind I remember back then when sexual things were not talked about, kids didn’t know to talk to their parents about this and even if they did the only thing that happened to the offender was counseling maby being put off their duties for a month or two while they were counseled and then placed somewhere else.

The press likes to play that this is something that only happened in the church’s but I am willing to bet there are thousands more like me who would tell you it happened more often in school than in church.
 
If taken to the USA he could always “take the fifth”.

I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.

That would be his right, just as it is his right as head of state to assert sovereign immunity.

I… don’t think it would be a good idea though. And I think that the Vatican lawyers who raised this issue are, well, not destined for a successful career if they join the Diplomatic Corps.

FWIW I think the Pope did nothing that many other Cardinals didn’t do.
 
**Why doesn’t the Holy Father call a council of all the Cardinals and Bishops to deal with this WORLDWIDE CRISIS??!! It is PAST TIME to ADDRESS THIS SCANDAL! ALL priests and nuns involved with physical or sexual abuse should be removed from ministry and prosecuted by the legal system. This is HORRIBLE! I don’t think the Vatican realizes the seriousness of the CRISIS. It is not simply an American problem, but a WORLD WIDE PROBLEM!! It undermines any authority the Church has on mor:mad:al issues. NO ONE takes the CHURCH SERIOUSLY! The Church CANNOT EFFECTIVELY LEAD or PREACH the GOSPEL without a thorough cleansing. Even if it means losing hundreds or thousands of Cardinals, Bishops, Priests and Nuns; it must be done, NOW! Roman Catholics should withhold ALL tithes, until a council is convened and the guilty removed and prosecuted **
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Prayer is needed. Please pray your rosary for the strengthening of HOLY MOTHER CHURCHES Priests and representatives. Pray for protection of the Pope, can you imagine the enormous weight of his cross right now?, please pray and DO NOT ADD to the suffering of Christ within His Body AND Church. Do not focus your anger on Christ in His Church and upon His representatives, but tell it to God and let Him deal and delt out what is needed. PRAY.
Don’t underestimate the power of praying the rosary. It is only pride to keep you from it.

God Bless
Bravo… This is great advice…👍
 
Little known fact… Taking the fifth does not automaticaly assign guilt to those that do.

There are Many innocents who plead the fifth not only because they were trying to hide something but because they had already been tried and judged by public media who havn’t a a clue on what is real evidence!
 
Some people want to make the Pope the ultimate responsibility because they can see larger dollar signs in the global Church. Can you not see that???

Please read the link I provided…in the USA the abuse peaked in 1980 (30 years ago), and since the early to mid-90s abuse claims have literally fallen to levels that no other insitution on earth can even approach right now. I would say the Church has done a lot, just in a very quiet manner.

Now, I wonder, why is that the Pope is having his feet held to the fire for this, yet if he ever speaks out against gay marriage or against abortion, he is condemned by the very same people who attack him now for things he did not even do?
I do not believe it is just about money. It seems like a lot of this is part of a focused attack by groups that wish to tear down the morale authority of the church to push thier own agenda. Many of which march to the beat of demon drummers. I am certain the Holy Father is greatly distressed by the conduct of some of the members of the Church, but as in the past thier will ALWAYS be bad men in every crowd of good men as long as we are speaking of earth and not heaven.

The faithful need to be just that Faithful to Christ and to his Church understanding that the evil one puts a LOT of effort in bringing down our Priests and even in Jesus time he did not turn his back on the 11 good men that were left standing after Judas betrayed him.
 
Part of the problem here is that there are two stories and the readers are getting confused. The one story was about the German priest who was sent to Munich for therapy while Cardinal Ratzinger was the Archbishop. The message from the other bishop was that the priest was going to Munich for therapy because of sexual impropriety. Being an older person I know that this is the way that we talked in those days. People did not ask for specifics when they heard that someone had committed a sexual impropriety. It was considered indiscrete to do so. Later the same priest is reassigned to a parish, even though his therapist had written a report that the man was an uncooperative patient and should not be allowed to work with children. But the Vicar General at that time, admits that he did the assigning, not the Archbishop. Those of us who have worked in chanceries, are religious or priests know that this is true. Bishops assign pastors. They don’t deal with associates. That’s done by the Vicar General or an auxiliary bishop who serves as personnel director. Bishops of large dioceses do not deal with these details. That’s why they have a staff.

Now story has sort of fizzled out. Then comes the story of the American, Fr. Murphy. That case was referred to the Sacred Congregation of the Faith when Cardinal Ratzinger was the Prefect. But Cardinal Bertone dealt with it. This too is also believable. These Congregations are really departments. There is a head and there is a staff. When these reports come in they are assigned to a particular member of the staff to deal with it and do what has to be done. That’s typical of any large infrastructure. Fr. Murphy writes a letter to Cardinal Ratzinger asking that the case be dropped, because he has confessed his sin; the years have passed and he’s dying. The letter was answered by Cardinal Bertone, which makes sense because he’s the one in charge of this case. The fact is that the man did die a few days after Cardinal Bertone’s letter reaches the USA. Some people want to see the priest’s letter. That is something that cannot be done without breaking all kinds of laws. If the man is speaking about matters of the confessional and conscience in his letter, the letter becomes confidential and is shown on a need to know basis. You cannot put someone’s conscience on display, no matter what sin he has committed.

What we as Catholics must remember is that bishops and major religious superiors deal with matters of conscience every day, specifically of the men or women under their command. They have to tread very carefully in answering questions. Moral law does not allow you to reveal what is a secret of conscience, even if you’re not a priest. Certain things can only be revealed to those who have the need to know. If you know a matter of conscience that your neighbor has told you in confidence, you are not allowed to reveal it except to those who need to know. Obviously that does not include the entire world. What people are asking is for two things: 1) people want Benedict to reveal to the press matters of conscience, which is unfathomable that we ask that. The world does not need to know that. I certainly don’t want to know every confidential detail about someone else’s conscience. Do you?
  1. They want Pope Benedict do what is not usual and customary, meaning that he take responsibility for the work done by others who worked for him. That’s not the way the system works. You assign someone to a job so you can do other things. That becomes his department and he has to deal with it. If I’m the superior of my religious house, I don’t have to tell my superior everything that happens in my house. I have to make sure that things run smoothly and that the brothers have what they need. If they need fraternal correction, it is my problem as the superior of the house. If someone does something that is so big that it needs to be reported, then I report. But it’s a judgment call that you make when you’re in charge of people and organisms. Sometimes you make the wrong judgment call, but you can’t blame your superior for that. Maybe I should have told my superior that I had a brother under me that never goes to mass. But I figured I could handle it. It was a bad judgment call on my part, because the brother got worse and stopped going to prayers too. But I can’t pass the buck to my superior nor should he be asked to pick it up. He does not have a crystal ball. He only knows what I report. By the way, this is a hypothetical situation. Everyone in my house goes to mass. Once in a while, the major superior may ask how things are going. I may say something like, “We’re dealing with a few issues, but they’re coming along OK.” And he’ll say, “Let me know if you need help.” In an organization as large as the Church, those in authority depend on those who manage different areas to do their job well and to ask for help if they need it.
Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
In an organization as large as the Church, those in authority depend on those who manage different areas to do their job well and to ask for help if they need it.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Very similiar to the organization I work for…👍
 
They want Pope Benedict do what is not usual and customary, meaning that he take responsibility for the work done by others who worked for him. That’s not the way the system works. You assign someone to a job so you can do other things. That becomes his department and he has to deal with it.
Brother JR… It pains me to quote this, as you’re someone who I deeply respect…
Documents reviewed by The Associated Press show that in the 1990s, a church tribunal found that the Rev. Michael Teta of Tucson, Ariz., had molested children as far back as the late 1970s. The panel deemed his behavior – including allegations that he abused boys in a confessional – almost ‘‘satanic.’’ The tribunal referred his case to then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who would become pope in 2005.
But it took 12 years from the time Ratzinger assumed control of the case **in a signed letter **until Teta was formally removed from ministry, a step only the Vatican can take.
Now maybe I’m making too much of this. Maybe His Holiness just rubber-stamped a letter saying he was taking personal charge of the situation, then handed it off to underlings and never bothered to check up.
In a signed letter dated June 8, 1992, Ratzinger advised Moreno he was taking control of the case, according to a copy provided to the AP from Lynne Cadigan, an attorney who represented two of Teta’s victims.
Five years later, no action had been taken.
‘‘This case has already gone on for seven years,’’ Moreno wrote Ratzinger on April 28, 1997, adding, ‘‘I make this plea to you to assist me in every way you can to expedite this case.’’
It would be another seven years before Teta was laicized.
It could be a single, isolated incident. Even Jove nods. Except…
Documents show at least two Vatican offices – the Congregation for the Clergy and the Apostolic Signatura, the highest judicial authority of the Catholic Church – were involved in the case at least as early as 1995.
Moreno pleaded with the Congregation for the Clergy to do something, writing, ‘‘We have proofs of civil crimes against people who were under his priestly care’’ and warning Trupia could ‘‘be the source of greater scandal in the future.’’
Ultimately, the case landed in Ratzinger’s office.
On Feb. 10, 2003, a day after the Arizona Daily Star reported that Trupia was living in a condo near Baltimore, driving a leather-seated Mercedes-Benz with a rosary hanging from the rearview mirror, Moreno wrote to Ratzinger again, calling him ‘‘a major risk factor to the children, adolescents and adults that he may have contact with.’’
There is no indication in the case files that Ratzinger responded.
Sick with prostate cancer and the beginning stages of Parkinson’s disease, Moreno was approved for early retirement by Pope John Paul II.
Before he was replaced, the bishop wrote Ratzinger yet again. Moreno’s replacement, Bishop Gerald Kicanas, sent similarly dire requests to Ratzinger and his subordinates.
Finally, in August 2004, Trupia was laicized.
OK, two single isolated incidents of multiple personal letters over many years to His Holiness pleading for a swift resolution, with no reply. 9 years for action to eventually be taken in one case, 12 in the other.

Unlike the victims’ lawyers, I don’t see this as proof of malice. It could just be incompetence and negligence. Maybe it does take a decade from the time the local authorities have incontrivertable, positive proof of guilt to the time that something gets done about it by the Vatican in the most serious of cases, those which require laicization.

I ask though that apologists not try to blame the victims, or the press, or the enemies of the Church, or the Atheists, or the Jews, or the gays, or the Illuminati any more.
 
Response to The New York Times
corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDkxYmUzMTQ1YWUyMzRkMzg4Y2RiN2UyOWIzN DVkNDM=

— Source: Father Raymond J. de Souza is a chaplain at Queen’s University in Ontario.
Quote:
The New York Times on March 25 accused Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, of intervening to prevent a priest, Fr. Lawrence Murphy, from facing penalties for cases of sexual abuse of minors.
The story is false. It is unsupported by its own documentation. Indeed, it gives every indication of being part of a coordinated campaign against Pope Benedict, rather than responsible journalism.
Before addressing the false substance of the story, the following circumstances are worthy of note:…Read full story on above link

Scoundrel Time(s)
firstthings.com/onthesquare/2010/03/scoundrel-times
Mar 29, 2010
George Weigel
Source: - George Weigel, Distinguished Senior Fellow of Washington’s Ethics and Public Policy Center
Quote:
But it was the New York Times’ front page of March 25 that demonstrated just how low those determined to bring the Church down were prepared to go.

Rembert Weakland is the emeritus archbishop of Milwaukee, notorious for having paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to satisfy the demands of his former male lover. Jeff Anderson is a Minnesota-based attorney who has made a substantial amount of money out of sex abuse “settlements,” and who is party to ongoing litigation intended to bring the resources of the Vatican within the reach of contingency-fee lawyers in the United States. Yet these two utterly implausible—and, in any serious journalistic sense, disqualified—sources were those the Timescited in a story claiming that, as cardinal prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith [CDF], Joseph Ratzinger, later Benedict XVI, had prevented sanctions against Father Lawrence Murphy, a diabolical Milwaukee priest who, decades before, had abused some 200 deaf children in his pastoral care. This was simply not true, as the legal papers from the Murphy case theTimes provided on its Web site demonstrated (see here for a demolition of the Times’ case based on the documentary evidence it made available). The facts, alas, seem to be of little interest to those whose primary concern is to nail down the narrative of global Catholic criminality, centered in the Vatican…
Read full story on above link

Well expressed comments extracted and rearranged a bit:

Why would anyone, anywhere, at anytime, believe anything written in the New York Times? You are supposedly Catholics and at the first shot fired by a lying newspaper rag, whose sources are a tort lawyer ready to line his pockets and a discredited bishop Weakland, you are ready to convict your Pope and the leaders of the church. Shame on you.

The “new” revelations aimed at Pope Benedict on the Wisconsin and Bavarian priests dredge up two ancient cases where there had been no coverup. Both cases were reviewed by the competent civil authorities in a timely fashion.

In WI, the DA chose not to proceed with a prosecution presumably because of Statute of Limitations considerations. Yet, the Church continued to pursue its own internal case for abuse of the confessional against Fr. Murphy. As the judge on the case (Fr. T. Brundage) has recently written, that case continued right up until the death of Fr. Murphy. As to the Bavarian case, Cardinal Ratzinger’s alleged “misconduct” was his 1980 approval of a transfer of the accused priest to the Munich Archdiocese so the priest could be given psychiatric treatment. As though psychiatric treatment were wrong? We may have learned that it has not proven effective for the treatment of pedophilia, but that was an empirical lesson still to be learned 30 years ago. Hindsight may be 20-20, but we live our lives and make our decisions in the quiddity of the present.

There are really two points that shouldn’t be forgotten:

First, the New York Times lied. They took two sources who are clearly biased and made up a story. Now, “lied” implies they knew what they were telling is a falsehood, so perhaps it’s not a nice thing to say. However, easily accessible facts refute their story, so I’m sticking with “lied” for now.

Second point, I’m pretty happy about the course of things. Our house is getting a thorough and needed cleaning and we will be the better for it. Sadly, the protestant and Orthodox churches, the schools (public and private) and various other social institutions will simply go along, in happy denial that they have this cancer eating at their craw. The real sadness about the NYT, however, is that they have lied about the one man who, as cardinal and pope, has actually done more than anyone else to address the sex abuse problem.

Granted, media types would like a bit more drama: firings, public excoriation, maybe a flogging or two. But Kodak moments don’t make for justice and healing. They just make for good TV. Nor would they satisfy the hard core anti-catholics, for whom it will always be “too little, too late”, for whom the pope is the ultimate scapegoat. The fact is we have gotten rid of a lot of bad priests, not to mention a few bad bishops. We have too many clergy too comfortable and secure.
 
I am troubled by those with whom I engage who claim that Benedict’s attackers are merely out to destroy the Church. The reality is that the church is doing a pretty good job on its own and there needs to be an accountability and an integrity that defuses the claims of those who seek to damage the Bride of Christ.

To hide behind a ‘head of state’ caveat only fuels speculation there is much to be concerned about and support the institutional nature of the abuse incidents.

If the Vatican does not act I fear that Catholics and Catholicism will fall away.

Seeds are being sown by some, maliciously and mischievously, but are being nurtured b others who should be speaking openly and honestly for the Catholic church.

Pax
 
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