Pope heads into busy Christmas season tired, weak

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For those interested in the topic of past Popes relinquishing their pontificate or ‘resigning,’ there was a very insightful lecture hosted by the Institute for Catholic Culture (a dynamite learning resource!) about Pope Benedict XVI’s connection with the monk-pope, Pope Celestine V, delivered by Dr. Robert Moynihan of Inside the Vatican fame.

link: instituteofcatholicculture.org/media.htm#secularism ‘The Scandal of Secularism:
Pope Benedict XVI & Pope Celestine V’]
 
Well the page seems to be dying down. I think I held my own defending the Faith. Tonight as I lay my head down I will throw up a Prayer to the Lord for our Holy Father…We all should:)
 
YoungTradCath said:
Well, I’m sure he is weak and tired. Anyone would be at that age. Not to mention that he had plans to retire after his stint at the CDF was up, then he got elected to the papacy. He obviously saw something worthwhile in giving up his passion of writing in order to take the reins, so I don’t think there will be a retirement or whatever. That would send an awful message to the press, methinks.
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Not to mention the fact that the Church is still recovering from a huge crisis. Resigning will just crush decades of restoration attempts. He desperately needs our prayers. Nearly 85 and he keeps fighting the good fight. We are blessed to have such a man as our pope. I think one day, the Church will beatify him just like Blessed JP II got beatified.:gopray::gopray2::signofcross::highprayer::crossrc:

The day our Pope dies, I’ll be using this emoticon for a while.:crying:
 
jmoneyideas said:
I know its like someone is speaking against a family member. I love you all.especially my Holy Father
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Same here.

It’s not surprising that he’s tired. He’s almost 85 years old and he has this tremendous burden on him. But I don’t like the kind of message these media reports are sending. I have a prayer card for our Holy Father. Here’s what it says on the back if anybody wants to use it:

*Lord Jesus Christ, you have chosen your servant Pope Benedict XVI to lead your Church.
By Your Holy Spirit now confirm him, we pray, in faith, hope and love.
Grant him grace to work in the vineyard of the Lord with wisdom and courage.
Pour out your Spirit upon all your people as we join him in seeking the will of God the father.
Amen. *
 
onjac said:
Same here.

It’s not surprising that he’s tired. He’s almost 85 years old and he has this tremendous burden on him. But I don’t like the kind of message these media reports are sending. I have a prayer card for our Holy Father. Here’s what it says on the back if anybody wants to use it:

*Lord Jesus Christ, you have chosen your servant Pope Benedict XVI to lead your Church.
By Your Holy Spirit now confirm him, we pray, in faith, hope and love.
Grant him grace to work in the vineyard of the Lord with wisdom and courage.
Pour out your Spirit upon all your people as we join him in seeking the will of God the father.
Amen. *
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Thanks for that post!
 
HailHolyQueen90 said:
I have a question…

How many Popes have stepped down?
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A few, but I don’t think it has happened since the 15th century. Fr. William Saunders wrote an article about the top six years ago, and it has been widely disseminated.
The first pope to resign was Pope St. Pontian, who was elected as the Successor of St. Peter on July 21, 230. During the persecution of Christians under Emperor Maximinus Thrax, St. Pontian was exiled to Sardinia and condemned to work in the salt mines, which no one was meant to survive. Therefore, he resigned as pope on Sept. 28, 235, to enable the election of a new pope, St. Anteros, who could govern the Church. Pope St. Pontian was martyred in 236 (237), either from ill treatment in general or from a mortal beating.
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Benedict IX is notorious for having served as pope on three separate occasions during the 11th century, resigning each time. Its a sad tale.

Another pope was Celestine V
Another pope to resign was St. Celestine V, who was elected pope on July 5, 1294, and consecrated on Aug. 29. He was a Benedictine monk who enjoyed the life of a hermit and was renowned for his spirituality. To break a deadlocked College of Cardinals, he was elected as pope even though he was 84 years old. Immediately, he became prey to scheming cardinals and nobility alike. He resigned on Dec. 13, 1294, and returned to his monastery. His successor, Pope Boniface VIII, had him imprisoned so that there would be no attempt to place him on the throne again. (He must have remembered Benedict IX.) Pope St. Celestine died on May 19, 1295. Although canonized a saint, Dante placed him in Hell in The Divine Comedy for resigning.
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And the last pope to resign seems to have been Gregory XII
Pope Gregory XII (1406 ? 1415) was elected as the legitimate pope at a time when there were two anti-popes: The Avignon Pope, Benedict XIII, who was supported by the French king; and the Pisa Pope, John XXIII, who was supported by conciliarists of the renegade Council of Pisa. (Please be sure to note that neither of these two latter mentioned pope were really pope.) Finally, at the Council of Constance (an official council), in order to heal the Church, Pope Gregory XII officially resigned, Benedict XIII resigned and John XXIII was deposed; Pope Martin V (1417 ? 1431) was then elected as the legitimate successor of St. Peter, following Gregory XII.
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Fr. Saunders draws some important lessons from this history:
Therefore, we find some colorful history to the papacy, concerning resignations and depositions. However, there is much to learn from these stories: First, if a pope resigns from office, there will always be the temptation to challenge the authority of the new pope, pitting him against the old. Secondly, in modern times, the Church has been blessed with truly holy popes who have been strong leaders. Third, the Church has definitely made itself more independent, free of political machinations from secular leaders.
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catholicherald.com/stories/Can-the-Pope-Retire,1964?content_source=&category_id=&search_filter=pray&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=&sub_type=stories&town_id=
 
Well not to toot my own horn but my comment is the most rated comment on the article with more Thumbs up than anyone else…😃
 
I will be praying for the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI. I am sure that this season could easily be stressful on a man his age with the responsibilities that he has. I hope he does not end up sick or anything. I am praying for him.
 
Holly3278 said:
I will be praying for the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI. I am sure that this season could easily be stressful on a man his age with the responsibilities that he has. I hope he does not end up sick or anything. I am praying for him.
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I saw video of him yesterday and he looked Fantastic…😃
 
Holly3278 said:
I will be praying for the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI. I am sure that this season could easily be stressful on a man his age with the responsibilities that he has. I hope he does not end up sick or anything. I am praying for him.
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So am I, Holly, so am I.

I pray for our Holy Papa every day; I add three Hail Marys at the end of my Rosary for him, in imitation of Blessed Jacinta of Fatima.
 
Dale_M said:
A few, but I don’t think it has happened since the 15th century. Fr. William Saunders wrote an article about the top six years ago, and it has been widely disseminated.

Benedict IX is notorious for having served as pope on three separate occasions during the 11th century, resigning each time. Its a sad tale.

Another pope was Celestine V

And the last pope to resign seems to have been Gregory XII

Fr. Saunders draws some important lessons from this history:

catholicherald.com/stories/Can-the-Pope-Retire,1964?content_source=&category_id=&search_filter=pray&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=&sub_type=stories&town_id=
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Was Pope Vigilius a valid pope or was he an anti-pope?
 
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