Pope Lifts Excommunications of SSPX Bishops

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Errrr… then what about people who are oppressed or possessed by demons?

“I will certainly agree with you that evil thrives on the absence of good, for that is the definition of evil.”

I didn’t say this. I thought the definition of evil is that which is against the law of God(?)
First of all, possession or oppression cannot make man sin against God. It is a psychology and physiological phenomenon. The soul and the will remain protected.

Second, “evil is against the law of God” in the sense that in the absence of good, man chooses to do what is not of God or simply not to act when he should.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
The SSPX hasn’t changed and worse they have been invited back without changing. The split with the Church because they could not stomach Vatican II reforms, not least of which the reforms of attitudes toward Jews. Through their website, through books and tapes and interviews they have promulgated the ideas of the Jew as guilty of deicide, the Jew as cursed for rejecting “god”, the Jew as seeking world domination, the Jew as contaminating and destroying Christianity. To the best of my knowledge their is not a single group that monitors anti-semitism that has not labeled the SSPX as virulently anti-semitic.
The lifting of the excommunication of the SSPX bishops does not mean that the Catholic Church now subscribes to their understanding of history. It is the first of many steps taken toward reconciliation among brothers of the same faith.

The SSPX will certainly have to face the difficult challenge, that being that they will have to accept history as the rest of the Catholic community accepts it. Those individuals who cannot do so, will have to deal with the consequences of their choices. But it is unfair to punish the entire community because some are in error.

Also, their errors can be corrected, if they choose to learn how to do so. If they don’t, they have to live with their conscience, not the entire Catholic community.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
There seems to be a great deal of nonsense around this issue. What I refer to nonsense are those points that the Church does not really consider important or is not thinking about at all.
  1. The lifting of the excommunication of the four bishops is not an endorsement of the positions of the SSPX. It is an attempt to unite all Catholics into communion with Peter, regardless of their complaints and concerns.
  2. There is not promise in this action that the Catholic Church will embrace the beliefs of the SSPX regarding Vatican II, ecumenism, the liturgy or freedom of religion. This last summer the Holy Father made it very clear to the SSPX that they had to embrace Vatican II as official and valid. They had to accept the authority of Peter. They had to deal with ecumenism on the Church’s terms, not their own. They had to embrace freedom of religious as the Church teaches it today, not as they would like to see it taught.
  3. Bishop Williamson has made more than one dumb statement during his tenure as bishop. This one regarding the holocaust is another for his personal record of blunders. It does not represent the other bishops of the SSPX or that of the Catholic Church. Even Bishop Fellay disagrees with him. Let’s consider the source. This is the man who when the Holy Father posed the ultimatum in the summer to accept the Church on her terms or give up told the laity “We have them on the run.” This is a man who incites division. However, these ridiculous statements on his part are not representative of the Society or the Church.
  4. There are many SSPX sites as there are other Catholic sites that say a great deal of nonsense about the Jews and people of other faiths. But they are not formal representatives of the Church, just as this site is not a Catholic site. This is a site run by laymen who are Catholics, but are not under the authority of the Church. It is a private enterprise. Do not take what you find in web sites that are privately owned and operated as the official teaching or beliefs of the Catholic Church. That’s ridiculous to do.
  5. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, about the excommunications. The fact remains the same. John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger felt that the bishops of the SSPX had incurred excommunication and they gave it their approval. In the end, the pope’s voice is the final word on any excommunication. If John Paul said that they had excommunicated themselves, then they did. The pope can interpret Canon Law or ignore it completely. He is the only law giver in the Church. That’s why Pope Benedict had to lift the excommunication. Observe that he does not declare it invalid. When you lift something it is because there is something there to be lifted. If the excommunications had been invalid, you do not lift what never happened. You simply declare it null and void.
Too much attention to what you find on the internet and not enough attention to what is really said by the Church leadership, especially the Vatican, can be a dangerous thing.

JR 🙂
 
I think its another political blunder by Pope Benedict XVI.

You see, he’s more liberal in his thinking than Pope John Paul II, who excommunicated them in the first place.

Does anyone believe that the leaders of the SSPX will return to the Church peacefully and without stirring up more conflicts ?

Jim
Oh, you mean, like having VII interpreted in the light of the whole of Catholic tradition and all the other Councils, and following and teaching Catholic doctrine, and worshipping as have Catholics through the centuries??
 
To: JRe.

You’re right there. I’ve read to have to give consent for them to take you over.

God delivers from the wiles and snares of Satan and his minions!
 
  1. There are many SSPX sites as there are other Catholic sites that say a great deal of nonsense about the Jews and people of other faiths. But they are not formal representatives of the Church, just as this site is not a Catholic site. This is a site run by laymen who are Catholics, but are not under the authority of the Church. It is a private enterprise. Do not take what you find in web sites that are privately owned and operated as the official teaching or beliefs of the Catholic Church. That’s ridiculous to do.


Too much attention to what you find on the internet and not enough attention to what is really said by the Church leadership, especially the Vatican, can be a dangerous thing.

JR 🙂
JR, I basically agree with you. Just one question: do you find it a bit disturbing – or at least, disappointing – that while so many Catholics in places of authority (both in the Vatican and outside) have condemned Williamson’s anti-semitism, Bishop Fellay has not? That is, he has said in very clinical terms “he is not authorized to teach history” – but that’s very, very far short of saying “and what he said was reprehensible.” Not to mention the fact that Pope John Paul II and several cardinals whom I’ve seen quoted recently have said throughout the years that Holocaust denial is not some abstruse historical debate but a true sin which is contrary not just to historical common sense but to Christian charity?

True, perhaps we need to give this time, and I am not second-guessing the Holy Father’s decision. It just occurs to me that a lot of this brouhaha could be much more easily calmed down if someone like Fellay would just come out and say what everyone wants him to say (and which, moreover – so that no one thinks I’m saying he should just bow to public pressure – he absolutely, morally should say). This wouldn’t even require of him an acceptance of Vatican II, which he obviously wants to take at his own pace and do in his own way…

Peace,
+AMDG+
 
Jews believe it is easier for the gentile to get into the world to come as they have only to follow the seven Noahide commandments. Jews don’t teach or believe that if you don’t adopt Judaism you suffer in any way.
Well, let me give a specific example. But, my point isnt to say “see, you’re just as bad as we are”… instead to point out that extreme ends of the spectrum will always have a mix of good and bad:

In Israel, its the orthodox and conservative Jews who make those settlements in the west bank and use illegal methods to drive out the arab farmers from the area.

It’s a similar problem: The good thing about the conservatives is that they see things in black and white, and wont compromise the faith to adjust to trends in society. The bad part of it is that they seem unable to compromise on points that can lead to doing evil: blaming the Jews of today for killing Christ, or blaming the arab farmers of today for living in palestine.

I’m not sure what to do about that. How can you have the good parts of conservative values and get rid of the bad parts?
 
Here is what I’ve gleaned so fartonight… .
The question was to providing the source material by which the names you listed asserted the invalidity of excommunication of the 4 bishops. Having reviewed the various materials from Mr. Michael Davis which you provided, I did not see an ad rem response.

This is concern to me because inaccuracy of this nature easily misleads the faithful into accepting propositions that injure ecclesial communion with the Church in its three fold bond of the profession of faith, the sacraments and ecclesiastical governance (c. 205). It also perpetrates the incorrect notion that the Roman curia itself (in the three named cardinals) have acted against a jurisdictional decision of the pope.

However, it usefully provided that the PCILT note found that no reason to believe that a canonical extenuating circumstance existed. (Here I recall Luther’s “here I stand, I can do no other” and marvel at some native similarities in the situations.)

However, the Murray thesis (which applied to the adherents of the society rather than to the 4) needs to be understood by looking at an actual published article (it was a licentiate thesis) and not a secondary source that talks about it, no matter how extensively.

This list itself is travelled and remains undocumented though … See the commentary about the PCILT note at catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=1224. It is useful reading. The commentary also takes on the question of the endemic use of selective quotations and lifting out of context by the SSPX.

I will recommend a more cautious approach to what people say rather than what those with a point of view assert they say from secondary and tertiary undocumented sources subject to alteration. I think this approach will be more useful to discussion and the discovery of truth.
 
Well, let me give a specific example. But, my point isnt to say “see, you’re just as bad as we are”… instead to point out that extreme ends of the spectrum will always have a mix of good and bad:

In Israel, its the orthodox and conservative Jews who make those settlements in the west bank and use illegal methods to drive out the arab farmers from the area.

It’s a similar problem: The good thing about the conservatives is that they see things in black and white, and wont compromise the faith to adjust to trends in society. The bad part of it is that they seem unable to compromise on points that can lead to doing evil: blaming the Jews of today for killing Christ, or blaming the arab farmers of today for living in palestine.

I’m not sure what to do about that. How can you have the good parts of conservative values and get rid of the bad parts?
You may support or not support the rights of Jews to live in Judea and Samaria though personally the advocation that a person should be banned from living in a certain area on the basis of his religion is to my mind racist, especially considering the connection of the Jewish people to these areas.

Certainly under Israeli law, the prevention of an Israeli citizen from purchasing land based on his religious or ethnic group is illegal. If for instance an Arab Israeli wished to purchase land or a house, it would be illegal to prevent the purchase because he was Moslem or Arab. On the other hand a case before me today dealt with an Arab who had sold land to a Jew and was being threatened with death by other Arabs.

Despite what you may have heard all the various villages and settlements in Judea and Samaria since 1967 were set up on state land or on privately purchased land. Though in certain cases there have arisen disputes as to land ownership there has never been evictions of Arabs from their residences for the purpose of establishing these settlements.

For some two thousand years Jews suffered under Christian anti-semitic persecutions including being stripped of all legal and civil rights, being made to live in ghettos, wearing special clothing marking them as Jews, expulsions, forced conversions and often death.

Jews were the victims of these persecution not a defeated enemy. Attitudes in the Catholic Church toward the Jews seemingly changed fifty years ago. I pray that they are not going back to their former state.
 
Sorry I can’t get the quotes here. Anyway, regarding Pius XII, here is the Latin text (can’t find English at the moment…can try to translate it but I think you know Latin):

Under the pontificate of Pius XII, the Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office decreed that, “Episcopus, cuiusvis ritus vel dignitatis, aliquem, neque ab Apostolica Sede nominatum neque ab Eadem expresse confirmaum, consecraus in Episcopum, et qui consecrationem recipit, etsi metu gravi coacti ([c*.] 2229 §3:3o [CIC/17]), incurrunt ipso facto in excommunicationem Apostolicae Sedi specialissimo modo reservatam.”

This is from April 9, 1951. I don’t know if you can find it online…

As far as excommunications being reduced, I guess you are referring to latae sententiae excommunications. I have no problem with the lower number. It seems to me that penalties should be externally, judicialy applied, not automatic. THat was one of the principles in the revision of the Code, I think–limiting the number of automatic penalties. I really don’t have much of an opinion other than that.

Besides automatic penalties, there can be others: the so-called ferendae sententiae penalties. That seems like a better way to go, as I said, and there are many opportunites for those in the Code.

Dan

P.S. I see you just put up some further reflections on the excommunications. Here is a link to a long paper on them, from the other side.

catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=1392&CFID=18133691&CFTOKEN=94690228#EXCOMMUNICATION%20AND%20SCHISM
Tnx again for the link. I’ll peruse it, & maybe send some more links if I can find them. I hope we can all come to an agreement on the meaning of the (putative) excommunications.
 
The Vaticans explanation "

The Pope spoke today at the general audience of the decree made public Saturday, which lifted the excommunication of four prelates of the Society of St. Pius X, illicitly ordained to the episcopate by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1988. The move has been criticized as an affront to Jewish-Catholic relations because one of the four, Bishop Richard Williamson, told an interviewer that he didn’t believe 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust." The popes uses the parable of the fishing net being torn and the appostles notice this yet Jesus wants to catch fish. The pope wants inclusion Why don’t we bring back priests who conducted Mass in family living rooms and were excummucnicated. Why not let priests who had girlfriends back to the flock? God forgive me, but keep priests that had issues around children.

I feel this event is sad: Letting the come back confusies me: My catholic faith had been speared with a sharp thorn.
 
The question was to providing the source material by which the names you listed asserted the invalidity of excommunication of the 4 bishops. Having reviewed the various materials from Mr. Michael Davis which you provided, I did not see an ad rem response.

This is concern to me because inaccuracy of this nature easily misleads the faithful into accepting propositions that injure ecclesial communion with the Church in its three fold bond of the profession of faith, the sacraments and ecclesiastical governance (c. 205). It also perpetrates the incorrect notion that the Roman curia itself (in the three named cardinals) have acted against a jurisdictional decision of the pope.

However, it usefully provided that the PCILT note found that no reason to believe that a canonical extenuating circumstance existed. (Here I recall Luther’s “here I stand, I can do no other” and marvel at some native similarities in the situations.)

However, the Murray thesis (which applied to the adherents of the society rather than to the 4) needs to be understood by looking at an actual published article (it was a licentiate thesis) and not a secondary source that talks about it, no matter how extensively.

This list itself is travelled and remains undocumented though … See the commentary about the PCILT note at catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=1224. It is useful reading. The commentary also takes on the question of the endemic use of selective quotations and lifting out of context by the SSPX.

I will recommend a more cautious approach to what people say rather than what those with a point of view assert they say from secondary and tertiary undocumented sources subject to alteration. I think this approach will be more useful to discussion and the discovery of truth.
I do agree with most of what you say. At this point I was not attempting to post definitive articles. M. Davies & SiSiNoNo are reputable sources, tho as you say M. Davies is not primary.
Just to clarify, I would not argue that the view I am reporting is the unanimous or majority view of the whole Curia; but as they are leading experts in the field under discussion, surely that has relevance also. The first request was for names, & I have provided the list upon which I had originally based my comment. If others like to google for some more, preferably primary, info on, this it would also be appreciated. (I will now, for my sins, instead of conducting a google search, take a selection of my family to the swimming-pool; they know why Daddy never comes in; it would make the pages soggy.)
Don’t worry, I’m not trying any sleight of hand or dirty tricks. It says in the Epistles somewhere that if we do not love the truth, the devil will lead us astray with fables. Let us all renew our prayers to the Holy Spirit for a love of the truth, and the grace of getting to the bottom of this matter.
 
Don’t worry, I’m not trying any sleight of hand or dirty tricks.
I had not assumed that in the least. Be exquisitely cautious in these matters. I had read the source material in print, as it is not on the web. It does not say what some have purported it to say, so that is my caution.
 
I think its another political blunder by Pope Benedict XVI.

You see, he’s more liberal in his thinking than Pope John Paul II, who excommunicated them in the first place.

Does anyone believe that the leaders of the SSPX will return to the Church peacefully and without stirring up more conflicts ?

Jim
Jim,

Excellent point, you’re a prophet, man, a prophet. We have one of these Bishops now denying the Holocaust. I don’t think that disqualifies him from rejoining the church, however, now that he’s under the discipline of the Church once more I hope he’ll be disciplined to silence.
 
The Catholic Church has a very good system for dealing with turbulent clerics. Eventually the iron hand in the velvet glove comes down and her tranquil procession resumes once again.

It doesn’t happen as fast gossips and muckrakers would like, but it happens.

[From memory:] +Williamson has issued an apology for inadvertently bringing the healing of the schism into disrepute, the Pope has issued a clarification, +Fellay has made a statement also.

This is an authoritative blogger on the current subject:

rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/
 
JR, I basically agree with you. Just one question: do you find it a bit disturbing – or at least, disappointing – that while so many Catholics in places of authority (both in the Vatican and outside) have condemned Williamson’s anti-semitism, Bishop Fellay has not? That is, he has said in very clinical terms “he is not authorized to teach history” – but that’s very, very far short of saying “and what he said was reprehensible.” Not to mention the fact that Pope John Paul II and several cardinals whom I’ve seen quoted recently have said throughout the years that Holocaust denial is not some abstruse historical debate but a true sin which is contrary not just to historical common sense but to Christian charity?

True, perhaps we need to give this time, and I am not second-guessing the Holy Father’s decision. It just occurs to me that a lot of this brouhaha could be much more easily calmed down if someone like Fellay would just come out and say what everyone wants him to say (and which, moreover – so that no one thinks I’m saying he should just bow to public pressure – he absolutely, morally should say). This wouldn’t even require of him an acceptance of Vatican II, which he obviously wants to take at his own pace and do in his own way…

Peace,
+AMDG+
I read somewhere a statement by Bishop Fellay and it says a little more. He said that he has ordered Bishop Williamson not to speak on this issue again. He also apologized to the Jewish community and to the Holy Father for the embarrassment. It was a very well written apology.

The question is whether Bishop Williamson will obey Bishop Fellay. The SSPX is not a religious order. They are a society of secular priests. Therefore, they do not have a vow of obedience to the superior of the Society, except in matters of pastoral practice. This was not a matter of pastoral practice. The other challenge is that they are both bishops. Two prelates of equal rank are difficult to handle.

Williamson has made other inappropriate remarks that have embarrassed the Society’s leadership. Unfortunately, there is what I would call a rogue element within the society, mostly lay people, who like Williamson’s rhetoric. As long as he has an audience who cheers, God knows what he’ll say next.

At this point it would be imprudent for the Holy See to publicly reprimand him, when he has just been welcomed home. Though this does not rule out a quiet memo from Congregation for Bishops or the Council on Catholic-Jewish Relations.

I find many of Bishop Williamson’s statements on many subjects to be stunning. As a Franciscan, I am not allowed to make any kind of statement that places me in a position of authority over any bishop, Catholic or Orthodox. We are to show humility and respect when speaking about and to bishops at all times. The best that I can say is that he does make statements that I would not make. I hope and pray that he makes them without any intention to do harm.

We’ll just have to wait and see.
 
Some postings have asked why Mgr Lefebvre did not lodge an appeal, if he thought he was being unjustly treated. cameron_lansing has rightly pointed out the necessity of providing reliable, primary documents. Let Mgr Lefebvre here speak for himself.
I have pasted the first few paragraphs only. Note that each and every subsequent sanction up to 1988 was based upon alleged disobedience to the previous sanctions.

remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/archive-2006-0215-lefebvre-1975.htm
**Recalling Why He Resisted **
Letter to Friends and Benefactors
Fri, Feb 17, 2006 6:36 am
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
Econe, Switzerland (1975)

[Editor’s Note: What follows is the official, authorized English translation of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre’s 1975 statement as released thirty-one years ago by the St. Pius X Seminary in Econe specifically for publication in The Remnant.* … ]

*Dear Friends and Benefactors:
It seems to me that the moment has come to bring to your knowledge the latest events concerning Econe, and the attitude which in conscience before God we believe we must take in these grave circumstances.

As far as the appeal to the Apostolic Signatura is concerned, the last attempt on the part of my lawyer to find out from the Cardinals forming the Supreme Court exactly how the Pope intervened in the proceedings being brought against us was stopped in its tracks by a hand-written letter from Cardinal Villot to Cardinal Staffa, President of the Supreme Court, ordering him to forbid my appeal.

As for my audience with the Holy Father, it has likewise been refused by Cardinal Villot.* I shall obtain an audience only when my work has disappeared and when I have conformed my way of thinking to that which reigns supreme in today’s reformed Church.

However, the most important event is undoubtedly the signed letter from the Holy Father, presented as in the Pope’s own writing by the Papal Nuncio in Bern, but in fact type-written, and which takes up again in a new form the arguments or rather the statements of the Cardinals’ letter.* This I received on July 10th.* It calls on me to make a public act of submission “to the Council, the post-conciliar reforms and the changes of direction to reject which is to reject the Pope” (orientations qui engagent le Pape luimeme).

A second letter from the Pope which I received on September 10th urgently required an answer to the first letter.

This time, through no desire of my own, my only aim being to serve the Church in the humble and very consoling task of giving Her true priests devoted to Her service, we found ourselves confronted with the Church authorities at their topmost level on earth, the Pope.* So I wrote an answer to the Holy Father, stating our submission to the successor of Peter in his essential function, that of faithfully transmitting to us the deposit of the faith.

If we consider the facts from a purely material point of view, it is a trifling matter, the suppression of a Society which has barely come into existence, with no more than a few dozen members, the closing down of a Seminary.* How little it is in reality, hardly worth anyone’s attention.

On the other hand, if for a moment we heed the reactions stirred up in Catholic and even Protestant, Orthodox, and atheist circles throughout the entire world, the countless articles in the world press, reactions of enthusiasm and true hope, reactions of spite and opposition, reactions of mere curiosity, we cannot help thinking, even against our will, that Econe is posing a problem reaching far beyond* the modest confines of the Society and its Seminary; a deep and unavoidable problem that cannot be pushed to one side with a sweep of* the hand, nor solved by any formal order, from whatever authority it may come.* For the problem of Econe is the problem of thousands and millions of Christian consciences, distressed, divided and torn for the past ten years by the agonizing dilemma:* whether to obey and risk losing one’s faith, or disobey and keep one’s faith intact; whether to obey and work for the preservation and continuation of the Church; whether to accept the reformed liberal Church, or to go on belonging to the Catholic Church.

It is because Econe is at the heart of this crucial problem, seldom till now posed with such fullness or* gravity, that* so many people are looking to this house which has resolutely made its choice of belonging to the eternal Church and of refusing to belong to the reformed liberal Church.

And now the Church, through Her official representatives, is taking up a position against Econe’s choice, thus condemning in public the traditional training of priests, in the name of the Second Vatican Council, in the name of post-conciliar reforms, and in the name of post-conciliar changes of direction, to reject which is to reject the Pope.

How can such opposition to Tradition in the name of a Council and its practical application be explained?* Can one reasonably oppose, should one in reality oppose a Council and its reforms:* What is more, can one and should one oppose the orders of a hierarchy ordering one to follow the Council and all the official post-conciliar guide-lines?

That is the grave problem today, after ten post-conciliar years, confronting our conscience as a result of the condemnation of Econe.

One cannot give a prudent answer to these questions without making a rapid survey of the history of liberalism, and Catholic liberalism over the last centuries. The present can only be explained by the past.
[Discussion of Liberalism follows]

[num : please read on]
 
I read somewhere a statement by Bishop Fellay and it says a little more. He said that he has ordered Bishop Williamson not to speak on this issue again. He also apologized to the Jewish community and to the Holy Father for the embarrassment. It was a very well written apology.

The question is whether Bishop Williamson will obey Bishop Fellay. The SSPX is not a religious order. They are a society of secular priests. Therefore, they do not have a vow of obedience to the superior of the Society, except in matters of pastoral practice. This was not a matter of pastoral practice. The other challenge is that they are both bishops. Two prelates of equal rank are difficult to handle.

Williamson has made other inappropriate remarks that have embarrassed the Society’s leadership. Unfortunately, there is what I would call a rogue element within the society, mostly lay people, who like Williamson’s rhetoric. As long as he has an audience who cheers, God knows what he’ll say next.

At this point it would be imprudent for the Holy See to publicly reprimand him, when he has just been welcomed home. Though this does not rule out a quiet memo from Congregation for Bishops or the Council on Catholic-Jewish Relations.

I find many of Bishop Williamson’s statements on many subjects to be stunning. As a Franciscan, I am not allowed to make any kind of statement that places me in a position of authority over any bishop, Catholic or Orthodox. We are to show humility and respect when speaking about and to bishops at all times. The best that I can say is that he does make statements that I would not make. I hope and pray that he makes them without any intention to do harm.

We’ll just have to wait and see.
Very interesting…and in fact, I kind of have my foot in my mouth, for lo and behold, Layman just posted this statement from Bishop Fellay, which may be what you are referring to, and which was a true relief to read:

rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/

Thank you, Layman!

I was only thinking that a papal reprimand would be useful, because it would demonstrate the Holy Father’s understanding of the complexity of the issue (for those outside of the Church who need to be assured that he does see it – because most people I talk to, even some Catholics, write him off, sadly, as a rather unthoughtful, unintelligent “conservative cleric” just like any of the American Protestant televangelists they are used to seeing on TV). But I do see your point about imprudence. And I hope there is a quiet memo in the works…probably you are right.
🙂

Peace,
+AMDG+
 
You’re welcome, Tuvis.

A smart public figure, such as the Pope, keeps as quiet as possible and only makes very succinct and careful statements when they are to their advantage.

Plenty of ‘celebrities’ have tried to play the media at their own game only to have their good name destroyed by them. Giving interviews ‘explaining your position’ is like throwing petrol on a fire to put it out.

Keep away from lawyers and the media if you want a peaceful life. My tuppence-worth.
 
"Attacks on Pope Benedict XVI’s decision to lift the excommunication of a Holocaust denier escalated Monday, with one theologian calling on him to step down as the head of the Roman Catholic Church.

Criticism following the pope’s January 24 announcement has been particularly cutting in Germany, where denying the Holocaust is a crime punishable with a jail sentence.
“If the pope wants to do some good for the Church, he should leave his job,” eminent liberal Catholic theologian Hermann Haering told the German daily Tageszeitung. “That would not be a scandal, a bishop has to relinquish his position at 75 years, a cardinal loses his rights at 80 years,” he said. Pope Benedict is 81. "

Link: breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.8f87fb2a7e55fa1a4415bdfd6c915b3e.521&show_article=1
 
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