Pope makes complete overhaul of Vatican liturgical congregation

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"Among the prominent new members of the congregation will be Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Secretary of State, Cardinal Beniamino Stella, the prefect of the Congregation for Clergy, and Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, the president of the Pontifical Council for Culture. Probably the most controversial new appointment is that of Archbishop Piero Marini, who clashed frequently with liturgical conservatives during the years when he served as master of ceremonies for papal liturgies under St. John Paul II. The only American prelate named to the congregation is Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, New Jersey, who chairs the US bishops’ committee on liturgy."
 
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The new appointments give a distinctly more liberal character—as well as a more international complexion—to the congregation.’’…The more conservative prelates who have been removed from the congregation include Cardinals Raymond Burke, Angelo Scola, George Pell, Marc Ouellet, Angelo Bagnasco, and Malcolm Ranjith.
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:hmmm:Is anyone else here noticing this obvious trend? Cleaning house of the conservatives and replacing with more liberal leaning. Much like the naming of three less than conservative American Cardinals recently. As the NY Times rightly observed about those appointments at the time; * “bypassing doctrinal conservatives from large archdioceses.”*

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Mark121359 said:
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:hmmm:Is anyone else here noticing this obvious trend? Cleaning house of the conservatives and replacing with more liberal leaning. Much like the naming of three less than conservative American Cardinals recently. As the NY Times rightly observed about those appointments at the time; * “bypassing doctrinal conservatives from large archdioceses.”*

Peace, Mark
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This trend has developed over the last sixty years so this comes as no surprise to me.
Hail Mary’s are to be said for the church our mother…
 
Mark121359 said:
From the linked article;

:hmmm:Is anyone else here noticing this obvious trend? Cleaning house of the conservatives and replacing with more liberal leaning. Much like the naming of three less than conservative American Cardinals recently. As the NY Times rightly observed about those appointments at the time; * “bypassing doctrinal conservatives from large archdioceses.”*

Peace, Mark
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No. I think that some of the news headlines and blogs are giving much ado about nothing.
 
Just because conservatives didn’t like Archbishop Piero Marini, doesn’t make him wrong for the job.

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zab said:
I don’t think it is significant news. Too many people think that they know more than the pope.
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Does the Pope always know best in matters of faith and morals? Is that view reflected in the almost 2000 years of Church history?
 
Convert_in_99 said:
Not to mention I think there is a forum rule to not condradict the Pope’s rulings or authority. 🤷
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From the rules posted in CAF’s Traditional Catholicism forum: (things we are not allowed to post)

•Criticisms of particular clerics, religious, religious communities, dioceses
•Proselytizing for the SSPX or any group whose current status is irregular or is not in communion with the Catholic Church
•Bashing the popes, Vatican II, the Vatican (Holy See), the Conference of Bishops
•Pitting one form of the mass against another
 
Convert_in_99 said:
From the rules posted in CAF’s Traditional Catholicism forum: (things we are not allowed to post)

•Criticisms of particular clerics, religious, religious communities, dioceses
•Proselytizing for the SSPX or any group whose current status is irregular or is not in communion with the Catholic Church
•Bashing the popes, Vatican II, the Vatican (Holy See), the Conference of Bishops
•Pitting one form of the mass against another
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In my understanding of Catholicism, the Pope’s authority is absolute and final when he speaks ex Cathedra and when he speaks for the Church as a whole in council. Not even the first Vatican council goes so far as to say he is authoritative whenever he says anything on faith and morals. When either of those 2 scenarios occur, the RCC makes it very clear. I am not pope bashing or proselytizing.

FYI, whenever anyone questions the Pope, it is not automatically questioning his authority. In the Pope’s personal views, he can err. This is quite consistent with the teaching of your faith. For instance, in my religion, clergy can criticize the ecumenical Patriarch and still respect his authority (so long as it is done responsibly).
 
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