Pope met with Kentucky clerk Kim Davis during his US trip, according to her lawyers

[anthony022071]

So even her lawyer said the meeting was to be kept secret, and she disobeyed for her own benefit–ie: affirmation–

Eek.

They weren’t told by Vatican officials that they must never speak about the meeting publicly.

 

[Crossbones]

Look at the comments under the articles. Most of them express hatred and contempt for Kim Davis and the pope and the Church. But especially for Kim. Some of these comments are by people who call themselves Catholics. Some practicing Catholics are so much in agreement with the deviant climate of opinion of the secular world that they hate and distain anyone who stands against it.

It’s probably because one of the two parties is lying, and no one like liars.

I’ll leave it to you to decide if it is the Vatican officials or Kim Davis and her lawyers who is lying.

 

[EmperorNapoleon]

They weren’t told by Vatican officials that they must never speak about the meeting publicly.

I’m sure Vatican officials didn’t encourage Kim Davis and her lawyers to claim that it was a private audience when it wasn’t or that it was an endorsement of her position which it isn’t.

 

[mommy_k]

They weren’t told by Vatican officials that they must never speak about the meeting publicly.

The first clue is tthe word “secret”. If someone told me a secret-The second clue is the vatican at first did not confirm or deny the meeting until a few days later. They were taken by surprise by the leakage.

This is an example of the ends not justified by the means.

 

[_Abyssinia]

So even her lawyer said the meeting was to be kept secret, and she disobeyed for her own benefit–ie: affirmation–

Eek.

Here is an interview with Mat Staver on EWTN on the meeting. He was asked by the interviewer, "Mat, how and why was the meeting kept secret for nearly a week?’

Mat Staver: “We wanted to certainly respect Pope Francis’ visit to The United States. He obviously has planned this meeting and that the broad-brush messages that he gave at the meetings he attended and the masses that he performed, we did not want this to be a focus of Kim Davis, nor did Kim Davis want this to be a focus on her, and we didn’t want it to distract, so once the Pope’s visit was complete, once he had been back to Rome, we felt it was appropriate at that point in time, in consultation, to release the information about the visit.”

youtube.com/watch?v=Ba0Pnz1XBwY

 

[bibcat]

Davis’ lawyer disputes Vatican description of meeting

bigstory.ap.org/article/f27eb8dd7bf744aa9fb11572c15748f4/vatican-popes-visit-davis-not-form-support

Why such hoopla because Christ’s Vicar on Earth met with a martyr for the faith (i.e. Christianity in the broad sense)? Indeed, such an action would be properly expected.

 

[clem456]

They weren’t told by Vatican officials that they must never speak about the meeting publicly.

Recent reports on the radio indicate Kim Davis was one of many who met with the Pope at that time. She did not have a private audience, from what I just heard on Catholic Radio.

 

[gilliam]

Vatican distances Pope Francis from Kentucky clerk Kim Davis

Pope Francis did not intend his brief greeting of Kim Davis, whom he met with several dozen others at the Vatican ambassador’s residence in DC, as a demonstration of support for her position, the Vatican announced Friday.

cruxnow.com/church/2015/10/02/vatican-distances-pope-francis-from-kim-davis/

Maybe her 15 minutes of fame over this are over…

 

[Catholic_farmer]

Okay, the latest release I found from the Vatican says this was a meeting with a dozen people; not private, as Kim Davis’ team led everyone to believe. Pope Francis did not have all the details of her quarrel with the government. He was probably given a quick synopsis of her situation, sans the details, right before he met the group of people (picked by the embassy). So, if there is anyone to be irritated with, it would be those who decided to include her in the group at the embassy, and failed to warn the Holy Father about the potential impact.

Mrs. Davis’ lawyer team misled the public and tried to capitalize on the meeting. I hope they are ashamed of themselves.

Link:

npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/02/445236066/vatican-details-pope-s-meeting-with-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis

 

[Lily_Bernans]

His own words seem to suggest that he Does believes conscientious objection applies to people who have sworn an oath before God to uphold the law, because he said it includes government workers: “It is a human right and if a government official is a human person, he has that right. It is a human right.” source What do you think of the principle that says “An unjust law is no law at all”? I think we should only treat just laws as laws and treat unjust laws as acts of violence with no legal force.

Also, quitting her job would not exactly uphold her rights. In one way it would, because everybody has the right to quit, but everybody also has the right to keep a public sector job without violating their conscience, at least in ordinary cases. Can you give an example? I think they are not very different. They talk about the same things, use the same words, teach the same doctrine, uphold the same morals – where is the big difference?

Did you read the official statement issued by the Holy See? It states explicitly that Kim Davis’ “meeting” should not be considered approval from Pope Francis for her actions. And, she did not have a private meeting. She was one of a group of people, though the Pope did meet privately with one of his former students, and only that student had a private meeting. Seems reasonable that he would want to speak to a student privately.

 

[Robert_Bay]

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