Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online

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As far as Rowling’s “Christianity”, it should be noted that she openly supports the practice of homosexuality.
How is admitting that Dumbledore was gay, a direct answer to a direct question, support the practice of homosexuality? Can’t an author explore every aspect of their character? Isn’t homosexuality a fact of life?

By the way, she just says Dumbledore was gay and infactuated with another character. She didn’t say (or write) that he acted out on his feelings. This type of homosexuality is consistent with Catholic teaching.

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But that Rowling herself supports the practice of homosexuality is openly known now.
I’ve read the article you linked, and nowhere in it does Rowling say that gay sex is moral. She does say that it was a good thing that her revelation inspired a man to “come out.” However, if we take her statement at face value she’s totally right. If a person experiences same-sex attractions consistently, it is healthy for him to admit that to himself and others. It doesn’t mean the attractions aren’t disordered, and it certainly doesn’t mean that gay sex is moral; it just means that it is a bad thing for him to lie about his same-sex attractions, to himself or anyone else. I have yet to hear Rowling say that gay sex is moral; in fact, I have yet to hear her openly contradict Catholic catechesis at all.

What’s more, if I dismissed as dangerous every children’s book that was written by an author who disagrees with Catholic doctrine on some serious matter of morality, my children would have a depressingly short reading list. If I discovered that R. L. Stine believes contraception is moral, I would not prohibit my children from reading Goosebumps, because Goosebumps has nothing whatsoever to do with contraception.
 
As far as Rowling’s “Christianity”, it should be noted that she openly supports the practice of homosexuality. That is not a Christian value at all, but is a blatant heresy and one which is damaging to youth.
Irrelevant. There is no homosexuality whatsoever in the Harry Potter series. Even though Rowling did once say that Dumbledore is gay, this is not in the books. In fact, one would never be able to tell from simply reading them that Dumbledore is homosexual; the character betrays no trace of the disorder in his actions, worldview, or behavior.

In fact, if Dumbledore is truly gay as Rowling explained, he is in many ways a model that Christians should be holding up. He lives a celibate lifestyle, does not publicize or reveal or hint at his homosexuality in any way, etc. The character seems to consider it irrelevant.

Furthermore, one cannot discount the extremely Christian and traditional worldview articulated by the books through their symbolism, themes, plot, etc. simply because of opinions that Rowling has expressed.

I - and authors such as John Granger - are making these judgments based on the books themselves. If Rowling does disagree with the traditional Christian position on sexual morality, you would never know that from reading the books. In fact, the way the books portray families (like the Weasleys) is very, very Catholic.
I liked the Lord of the Rings better than the Potter series anyway. The Potter series was cute, but nowhere near the quality of the Rings.
I agree.
How is admitting that Dumbledore was gay, a direct answer to a direct question, support the practice of homosexuality? Can’t an author explore every aspect of their character? Isn’t homosexuality a fact of life?

By the way, she just says Dumbledore was gay and infactuated with another character. She didn’t say (or write) that he acted out on his feelings.
Good points. As Transformer put it in his post above, Dumbledore’s only potentially homosexual relationship seems to have inspired him to live celibately for the rest of his life.

STEELTEMPLAR: Thank you for the Wikipedia link above. Although I don’t agree with everything the article says, I very much like the section on the conservative values promoted in the Potter series. I recommend giving it a second look.
 
God will judge. I don’t think it will reflect negatively on me when I am judged if I haven’t read Harry Potter so I’m really not too worried about it. I’ve heard they are real spells, Fr. Amorth has spoken out against the books, that’s good enough for me to stay away from them. There is nothing you can say to change my mind…and vice versa…so we probably should just end this discussion. May God be with you.
Emphasis one: You obviously haven’t read any of Rowling’s own commentary on her books. Or the books themselves, for that matter.

Emphasis two: Is anyone sensing a pattern among people who condemn everything as demonic? :rolleyes:
 
Emphasis one: You obviously haven’t read any of Rowling’s own commentary on her books. Or the books themselves, for that matter.

Emphasis two: Is anyone sensing a pattern among people who condemn everything as demonic? :rolleyes:
Accio brain!😃
 
I’ve got all five movies on blu ray so far. I think they are great. I find nothing offensive whatsoever.
 
More nonsensical mis-representation.

Cardinal Ratzinger wasn’t ‘Pope’ when he wrote that very GENERAL letter. I doubt he’s even read Harry Potter, and this old stuff in no way constitutes Papal opposition. :rolleyes:

All this is along the same lines of gasp! the Pope was a NAZI!
 
mlchance,

The article was not intended to go into detail, yet I do think it poses sound arguments.

IMO, those ten, coupled with the biblical statements about sorcery and our Holy Father’s statements…those together are enough for me to not allow my kids to read that junk.
You didn’t even have any “arguments”, they were assertions as someone mentioned. Secondly BXVI might have not even read the novels, he got a letter from someone briefly discussing the content of the novels, but the thing is, that person was already biased against it and therefore wrote it in a negative light. It’s only natural that BXVI would have said “ah yes, this is to be avoided then”

Jimmy Akin the Catholic apologist also mentioned several things:
This also fails to go beyond the status of a personal opinion expressed in personal (not professional) correspondence. It thus has no binding force for Catholics.
Also, note what the Cardinal didn’t say:
  1. He didn’t say that nobody can read Harry Potter.
  2. He didn’t say that people who are secure in their faith can’t read it.
  3. He didn’t say that young people of any particular age can’t read it if their parents read it with them to help them understand problematic bits.
jimmyakin.org/2005/07/pre16_on_harry_.html

Certainly if your kids are 18 and conjuring up the dead and casting avada kedavra on your next door neighbour’s cat you have reason to be worried. You might as well keep them locked in the house with no T.V because there is black magic in the news, far more subtle and real than Harry Potter ever will be.
 
I’ve got all five movies on blu ray so far. I think they are great. I find nothing offensive whatsoever.
I have them all on HD-DVD. Bought the machine and the movies one month before they announced the end of HD-DVD…:mad: Curses! 😛
 
I have them all on HD-DVD. Bought the machine and the movies one month before they announced the end of HD-DVD…:mad: Curses! 😛
Well I missed another trend. I didnt even know there was HD-DVD and now you tell me its ended? Must be like AM Stereo.
 
More nonsensical mis-representation.

Cardinal Ratzinger wasn’t ‘Pope’ when he wrote that very GENERAL letter. I doubt he’s even read Harry Potter, and this old stuff in no way constitutes Papal opposition. :rolleyes:

All this is along the same lines of gasp! the Pope was a NAZI!
If you go back to post #96 in this thread, you will see where I wrote:
The original story was typical media misinformation. The story headline would lead you to believe the Pope has condemned the HP series. To date, the Pope has remained silent on the subject. It turns out that an assistant to then Cardinal Ratzinger, made a few comments (under the signature of the Cardinal) that acknowledges the potential “subtle” elements of the books that could conflict with faith. A better title would have been “Cardinal Aide may oppose subtle references in HP Novels.”
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Well I missed another trend. I didnt even know there was HD-DVD and now you tell me its ended? Must be like AM Stereo.
Toshiba backed HD-DVD while Sony put their money in bluray. Sony won although Toshiba may have had a hand in that to get some sort of kickback in the production of bluray units. I bought a HD player as well but never invested in movies. Just watched the 7 promotional ones with the unit. Then I donated the whole kit and kaboodle to my parish’s garage sale a month ago.
 
Toshiba backed HD-DVD while Sony put their money in bluray. Sony won although Toshiba may have had a hand in that to get some sort of kickback in the production of bluray units. I bought a HD player as well but never invested in movies. Just watched the 7 promotional ones with the unit. Then I donated the whole kit and kaboodle to my parish’s garage sale a month ago.
Lucky for us, it was only a short period of time…promotional movies plus 2 or 3, I think, is all we bought. There were even more movies included from the store in the promotion I got. A lot of good that is now…We can’t afford a Blu-Ray player, so we have to “suffer” with regular DVDs for now. 😦 😛
 
Lucky for us, it was only a short period of time…promotional movies plus 2 or 3, I think, is all we bought. There were even more movies included from the store in the promotion I got. A lot of good that is now…We can’t afford a Blu-Ray player, so we have to “suffer” with regular DVDs for now.
Blu-Ray players are ridiculously expensive. We have a big restaurant/sports bar/arcade midway place here in Columbus, Ohio called Dave and Busters, and in the midway many of the games give tickets which you can then redeem for prizes. So, a tee-shirt is, like, 2000 tickets, a little bouncy ball is 30, a lava lamp is maybe 4000. Know how much a Blu-Ray player is? 148,000 tickets. Who on earth spends enough time in a midway to earn 148,000 tickets!?!
 
Blu-Ray players are ridiculously expensive. We have a big restaurant/sports bar/arcade midway place here in Columbus, Ohio called Dave and Busters, and in the midway many of the games give tickets which you can then redeem for prizes. So, a tee-shirt is, like, 2000 tickets, a little bouncy ball is 30, a lava lamp is maybe 4000. Know how much a Blu-Ray player is? 148,000 tickets. Who on earth spends enough time in a midway to earn 148,000 tickets!?!
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Well, there you go…I’ll shoot for the bouncy ball. 😃
 
Blu-Ray players are ridiculously expensive. We have a big restaurant/sports bar/arcade midway place here in Columbus, Ohio called Dave and Busters, and in the midway many of the games give tickets which you can then redeem for prizes. So, a tee-shirt is, like, 2000 tickets, a little bouncy ball is 30, a lava lamp is maybe 4000. Know how much a Blu-Ray player is? 148,000 tickets. Who on earth spends enough time in a midway to earn 148,000 tickets!?!
Any new technology starts high and comes down. They will be within the affordable range within a year and a half tops. Of course compared to a simple lava lamp I guess it will never win. But I can’t sit and watch a lava lamp for entertainment.
 
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