Pope politics agreement?

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Do I have to agree with the popes political views…IE if the pope says we shouldn’t build a wall on american border can I say yes we should I dont agree
 
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While it is good to listen to what the Pope says about the world around us, apart from issues of faith and morals agreement is not necessary.
 
No, you don’t necessarily have to give assent to assent to the Pope’s political opinions.
 
I believe the average person is capable of deciding that for themselves.
 
As long as he is not speaking ex cathedra, you can disagree with him.
 
You don’t have to agree. That said, you may want to pause and give some consideration as to why you disagree. I know there were popes past that I didn’t always agree with their public statements; it strengthened my faith to examine why.
 
If a Pope says something political in nature, there is going to be a moral element behind what he is saying, so it is expedient to examine those reasons.

In America we have a concept of separation of Church and state given to us by Englishmen like Jefferson or Washington, but this is not a wholly Catholic idea since politics and morality are inevitably intertwined and therefore religious conviction always plays a role in politics.
 
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I think that we should all be in agreement on the basic principles that are at play. For example we should all care for the poor. Some people think that in order to care for the poor you have to be some kind of socialist. That is incorrect. It is conceivable that a person is a libertarian and cares for the poor also. The socialist and the libertarian may disagree with how the poor should be cared for but we should be in agreement on the basic principles.
This is why I think that a lot of this criticism of the Holy Father is misplaced. When he calls onus to care for the poor and they call him a socialist then I think they are wrong.
 
No you don’t. The Pope has enough house cleaning to do without commenting on external political affairs.
 
Respect his office, and you can also respectfully disagree with his private opinions.
 
NO. But when we form political views, even though they must not agree with the Pope unless made ex-catherda, we should still follow the teachings of Christ in the Gospels…I think you will find statement made by the Holy Father, whether ex-catherda or not, are in line with the teachings of Christ and the Gospels.
 
At least your asking the question and are concerned about his opinion and considering his opinion. That’s good. When he offers opinions that are considered traditional or conservative it hardly gets mentioned and doesn’t affect those pushing for policy in opposition one bit.
 
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Do I have to agree with the popes political views…
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It depends what you mean by “political views” .

For example the use of nuclear weapons .

Yes , you have to agree on the Magisterium’s , which is also the Pope’s , teaching on the use of nuclear weapons .
 
Not only can you disagree, sometimes you should. Political opinions on world governing systems is not really a religious topic anyway. For instance, most popes would have no concept of the type of free governments we see today. And the current Pope’s experience with concepts like borders, and capitalism are viewed through a south American lens. Its helpful for gaining a perspective, it can get helpful in cases like JPII taking a political stand against something like communism. The Pope’s words should be given weight. He is a head of state as well, but the average American voter is far more knowledgable about American politics and systems than the Pope. You must be able to see what the Pope says as a moral construct and then apply it to the situation. What I don’t understand is why the Pope doesn’t weigh in in other countries who fail to provide for their people, thereby creating these situations if mass illegal migration. Is the problem the US defining its boarder physically? It is the problem countries like Mexico creating these issues? But I say fine. We obviously made a mistake in Panama building a barrier of land travel stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific, perhaps we could put that back as it was…
 
Of course not. Trump is an elected representative and really has no moral authority over anyone. (Nor should he) I just happen to agree with him!
 
I think the Pope actually tries to stay out of daily politics, it weakens his office and he knows that as many others did. Part of the problem is that things like the wall have plenty of people here who are dead set on the necessity of them. The polarization on the topic makes a lot of people hearing things otherwise as an intrusion or offence.

Maybe the Pope is seeing things well beyond the immigrant issue. There are plenty of examples where a wall presents injustice (or even fallacy) well beyond the issue of immigration. Lessons of history such as the cold war walls, the Israeli walls, and even more relevant the issues that the Bush fencing act of 2006 can teach us something. The 2006 act authorized something like 600 - 700 miles of fencing. A wall cannot be made on Mexican territory and there are treaties governing the boarder’s location. Obtaining space for the wall requires thousands of miles gained through eminent domain, this has proven to be a major issue for the 2006 law . Even 12 years later eminent domain cases are still in the courts from the 2006 law. Any wall will cost well more than $5.7 Billion to build and way much more in the future to maintain. I pray that you read up more on the 2006 boarder, no matter your opinion, the cold hard reality of such an endeavour should be considered. It also ignores what we already know about how well existing wall sections (similar to what has be proposed) work.
 
I would suggest that the pope does not make political statements per se. He makes statement on the current crises in the world and these are based on Christian values and the teachings of Christ. When he speaks out against the wall, he is speaking out against all wall that separate. He is simply following Christ when He instructs us to feed the hungry ect. When the pope speaks about custodianship of the earth it is the same thing. Protect the earth - it feeds you. This is a very simple message and should arise no controversy. But we choose to make things political. Not everything in the world is political. Some issues are a question of morality.
 
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