Pope politics agreement?

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When he speaks out against the wall, he is speaking out against all wall that separate.
I think that is an exceptional example. Walls do exactly that, it represents turning your back to another. Ask people in trans-boarder communities between both Canada and Mexico. It puts a chill on the neighborliness in those communities. I’ve always found this chill especially depressing with Canada because we share so much linguistically, economically, in relative prosperity (which always minimizes boarder issues), and culturally at every point in the boarder. We’ve also lost some incredibly collaborative visions with the country that is perhaps (or should be) our closest ally.
 
The easy way to solve this is to annex Canada. Shouldnt be much resistance…
 
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The Vatican is, and still remains the most walled in border and militarily guarded place I’ve ever traveled to. Complete with machine guns I could reach out and touch. With swindlers all over outside offering ways to skip the line and get in for a price. Even requiring a certain way to dress. The USA is quite open in comparison.
 
I remember the night of the 2016 election, when the left-wingers saddened by Trump’s victory crashed Canada’s immigration webpage.

In other words, they were looking for information on how to legally move there because they were upset about a President who would crack down on illegal immigration.
 
LOL. 😀 I thought we tried that once before (in the 18th or 19th century) and it didn’t work out.
 
At least he’s pro-life. He’s appointed pro-life judges too. If everyone who criticized him would pray for him, everyone would benefit imho.
 
While both of us see humor here. If the nature of man and history are indicators. An invasion for natural resources is very likely within a few hundred years. And though I’m not a believer in man made global warming. If it were true. Canada will have some pretty nice farmland in the next hundred years as well.
 
Invade Canada? And then the U.S. would print its stamps, currency etc in English & French to placate the Quebecois? No thanks. Non merci.

Full disclosure: I have cousins in Canada.
 
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That is a joke I have with Canadians, they’re really Americans but we just let them think they are their own nation.
 
In other words, they were looking for information on how to legally move there because they were upset about a President who would crack down on illegal immigration.
Or possible they were disillusioned by a country who elected a President who made seriously disparaging remarks about minorities, handicapped people, and basically any one he felt opposed him. One who was caught on tape boasting about being able to abuse women because he was famous. Cheated on his wife and many other things that would have previously and resoundingly precluded a political candidate from attaining office.
 
I don’t see the US using French to placate the Quebecois. I see more hostility when I speak French than when I speak Spanish.
 
In other words, they were looking for information on how to legally move there because they were upset about a President who would crack down on illegal immigration.
If you look at U.S. political history, none of this is unique to Trump. For the past 200+ years, U.S. Presidents have been breaking every commandment of the Decalogue. In some cases, the press actually cooperated in covering up the sins and crimes of presidents under the pretext of national security.
 
If you look at U.S. political history, none of this is unique to Trump. For the past 200+ years, U.S. Presidents have been breaking every commandment of the Decalogue
Yes, because they are humans. But that does not make their behavior all the same. I’m not going to even get into the politics or even what people might consider lies. The objectively racist public comments, the name calling, the petty fights he gets into, the outright disrespect he has shown specific War Heroes, Generals, and ordinary solders who have paid the ultimate price simply for disagreeing with him. This is behavior that virtually no parent, and I’d suspect even more so here, would ever tolerate from their child. This is the kind of behavior that HR would chuck you out the door, with cause, the very first day. Worse yet it was behavior fully on display before he was hired. It baffles me why anyone who is a serious “Christian”, claiming the moral high ground, would ever hitch their wagon to such a man.

We cannot keep living in a world where they’re “all the same” and that’s just how it is. Or where news sources are all “fake” or “real” or they’re all corrupt. I’ve been around a little bit. There are ones I favored their politics on but find their private choices disagreeable, there’s ones I find upright, but weak on policy or that I disagreed with on the whole. But, they all knew how to do one thing in common, act like gentlemen when the task required it AND recognize when getting advice from their predecessors, even those they skewered on the campaign trail and disagreed with on general politics, had something to offer. Some of them grew into to deep respectful friendships. These are the men (and hopefully women in the future) that I can in the end say my country was worth their time in leadership.
 
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I find trump a very capable and competent leader. And I am proud of my president. Though his personal morality may lack. And lack severely. I find the Pope’s personal morality very superb. But I don’t think he is a great natural leader. Both men swear, both are attacked by a media with an agenda. Both say things off the cuff that they shouldnt. Of course my obedience to the Pope far outweighs my obedience to even my country, not to mention a president. But I relate to trump more.
 
And I am proud of my president. Though his personal morality may lack. And lack severely.
That’s fine, you are entitled to your opinion and that’s why we have elections. I’ve personally had no doubt from the very beginning that history will not be nice to him. I can’t say I wouldn’t give him some slack if his failings remained in the realm of his personal life, but I find it goes so far beyond that.
 
At least he’s pro-life.
“Pro-life”? Or rather “pro-birth”? ISTM that being pro-life also means supporting life that is vulnerable, getting rid of the death penalty, working to solve the problems of impoverished immigrants rather than building walls, doing something about gun violence, helping poor single mothers afford decent nutrition and health care for their children, etc.

I think being pro-life means: supporting life from conception until natural death, and at least paying respect to the social teaching of the Church, which is meant to do just that. We may quibble on the means of doing so, but not on the general notion that we must do so.
 
The traditional Catholic principle of subsidiarity states that a higher authority should not interfere in the actions of a lower authority unless the lower authority is incapable of performing the actions proper to it. Example: Helping the poor is properly a function of the community and/or local government. State government can help when necessary; the federal government should only help in an emergency. Yet the federal government now performs many of the functions that should be done by state & local government.

Is that right? As you said:
We may quibble on the means of doing so, but not on the general notion that we must do so.
 
Any wall will cost well more than $5.7 Billion to build and way much more in the future to maintain. I pray that you read up more on the 2006 boarder, no matter your opinion, the cold hard reality of such an endeavour should be considered. It also ignores what we already know about how well existing wall sections (similar to what has be proposed) work
Respectfully toward agree a wall cost well more than $5.7 Billion, last administration got what …$50+ billion to build the wall and got the OK vote to do so and it worked solve the issue in that area correct? Peace
 
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