Pope reaffirms ban on women priests

[LucyLight]

LucyLight;9350920:

Regarding your last line, I would have no problem with women priests if God wanted women priests. I would definitely prefer to see a woman for confession . Guys are lucky in that way. It’s a lot harder to confess intimate sins to someone of the opposite gender.
One can overcome all this. I have no problem with men in any role - my gynaecologist is male and I am very comfortable with him. It took a while though

I’m over it but it still would be easier to talk to a woman.

 

[MonicaMariaGS]

Sad but true…Women are taking the roles of men, and men are starting to get lazy on their manly roles…

Women need to raise the bar for how men need to act towards women, and then we will have real men out in the world!

 

[ChemicalBean]

This thread is well over a year old. Just sayin.

 

[BunnyLover]

If Jesus wanted female priests he would have appointed a woman to be one of His twelve.

He didn’t.

End of story.

Where was the Korean guy he appointed? I guess he doesn’t want any of them to be appointed either.

I’m sorry, but this isn’t a reason. This is an insult to intelligence. The answer “because it’s tradition and we say so” Is more logical and acceptable than this.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I honestly have trouble taking arguments seriously that essentially go:
Women are awesome but…men are stronger, smarter, braver, better with technology, etc.

Whenever I see the word “honestly” in a conservation like this, it’s a red flag.

All one needs to do here is look at basic biology. On the one hand, liberals and certain secular activists claim to like science, but on the other ignore some of the most fundamental biological facts.

Women and men are different in many ways. Sorry, but social engineering and laws won’t change that.

It seems like it would be more intellectually honest to simply say that you think men are better than women.

Only if one follows the progressive trickery of putting words in people’s mouths.

Teenagers may do that sometimes too, just to give an idea of the intellectual and maturity level that such techniques are seen at.

 

[Lochias]

Where was the Korean guy he appointed? I guess he doesn’t want any of them to be appointed either.

Women can’t be priests any more than men can be nuns. There is no historical precedent in the Church for women being made priests, and that includes Jesus himself. If we’re talking nationality, then there was wasn’t much use for Jesus to send the Apostles out into the world now, was there?

I’m sorry, but this isn’t a reason. This is an insult to intelligence. The answer “because it’s tradition and we say so” Is more logical and acceptable than this.

It’s a reason, just one you don’t like. If you want to come off as snarky and insulting, that’s your prerogative (much good it will do you on these forums, however).

 

[livingwordunity]

All one needs to do here is look at basic biology. On the one hand, liberals and certain secular activists claim to like science, but on the other ignore some of the most fundamental biological facts.

Women and men are different in many ways. Sorry, but social engineering and laws won’t change that.

Well said!

 

[Lapey]

Where was the Korean guy he appointed? I guess he doesn’t want any of them to be appointed either.

I’m sorry, but this isn’t a reason. This is an insult to intelligence. The answer “because it’s tradition and we say so” Is more logical and acceptable than this.

Nationality = gender? Wow, that’s a new angle. An insult to intelligence is stating that women can serve as Catholic priests.

Can a woman serve in the role and duties of a man as a priest? Yes, but the priesthood is much much more than a simple task or list of duties, it is standing in the person of Christ. A female cannot possibly do this anymore than it is possible for a man to become pregnant and give birth.

There have never been women priests, there are no women priests now, and there will never be women priests in the future because this is impossible. To think otherwise is to not understand the meaning of the Priesthood of Jesus Christ.

 

[Tigg]

How did this very old thread **about Pope Benedict **get re-kindled?

Which pope are we now talking about?

 

[PTL]

Pope Benedict’s words are still good. It is not like since he retired his words retired with him.
Pope Benedict’s words are especially important now, in my opinion.

 

[Tigg]

Pope Benedict’s words are still good. It is not like since he retired his words retired with him.
Pope Benedict’s words are especially important now, in my opinion.

I couldn’t agree more with you…altho the MSM would report otherwise. I would love to hear Pope Francis reiterate this in clear, concise language without “translation” problems or the media’s fallacious interpretation.

 

[PTL]

I would love to hear Pope Francis reiterate this in clear, concise language without “translation” problems or the media’s fallacious interpretation.

Same here. It is important for the faithful to receive clear teaching on fundamental issues with no misunderstanding.

 

[Lochias]

Same here. It is important for the faithful to receive clear teaching on fundamental issues with no misunderstanding.

Which we are, if we listen with more than half an ear.

 

[Lapey]

I couldn’t agree more with you…altho the MSM would report otherwise. I would love to hear Pope Francis reiterate this in clear, concise language without “translation” problems or the media’s fallacious interpretation.

Same here. It is important for the faithful to receive clear teaching on fundamental issues with no misunderstanding.

Which we are, if we listen with more than half an ear.

1. Demands that the legitimate rights of women be respected, based on the firm conviction that men and women are equal in dignity, present the Church with profound and challenging questions which cannot be lightly evaded. The reservation of the priesthood to males, as a sign of Christ the Spouse who gives himself in the Eucharist, is not a question open to discussion, but it can prove especially divisive if sacramental power is too closely identified with power in general. It must be remembered that when we speak of sacramental power “we are in the realm of function, not that of dignity or holiness.” The ministerial priesthood is one means employed by Jesus for the service of his people, yet our great dignity derives from baptism, which is accessible to all. The configuration of the priest to Christ the head – namely, as the principal source of grace – does not imply an exaltation which would set him above others. In the Church, functions “do not favour the superiority of some vis-à-vis the others.” Indeed, a woman, Mary, is more important than the bishops. Even when the function of ministerial priesthood is considered “hierarchical”, it must be remembered that “it is totally ordered to the holiness of Christ’s members.” Its key and axis is not power understood as domination, but the power to administer the sacrament of the Eucharist; this is the origin of its authority, which is always a service to God’s people. This presents a great challenge for pastors and theologians, who are in a position to recognize more fully what this entails with regard to the possible role of women in decision-making in different areas of the Church’s life.

Seems to me to that he is saying this. This is paragraph 104 of the Apostolic Exhortation “The Joy of the Gospel”.

 

[Mark121359]

One thing I’ve noticed. You don’t see too many Catholics who are adamant about women becoming priests, who aren’t just as adamant that the Church should also allow gays to marry, to allow a woman to choose, to allow for divorce, to make allowance for contraception, to allow one to be able to choose when to die with dignity, and on and on and on. But I guess when you consider that only 1 in 3 Catholics believe in the Real Presence, 1 in 4 attend Mass regularly and Confession going is pretty much nil…this really isn’t too difficult to understand at all.

Peace, Mark

 

[livingwordunity]

One thing I’ve noticed. You don’t see too many Catholics who are adamant about women becoming priests, who aren’t just as adamant that the Church should also allow gays to marry, to allow a woman to choose, to allow for divorce, to make allowance for contraception, to allow one to be able to choose when to die with dignity, and on and on and on. But I guess when you consider that only 1 in 3 Catholics believe in the Real Presence, 1 in 4 attend Mass regularly and Confession going is pretty much nil…this really isn’t too difficult to understand at all.

Peace, Mark

When a Protestant denomination allows for women clergy the acceptance of clergy in an openly “gay” relationship almost always goes along with it.

 

[tskrobacz]

I’ve never understood why a woman would want to become a priest. As our priest says…our goal is to become like Mary and give birth to Christ in the world. Seems to me women can mother their families and the faith community in the spirit of Mary much more graciously from outside the priesthood. The church’s position on this beautifully recognizes the unique role of men and women in God’s divine plan.

 

[livingwordunity]

I’ve never understood why a woman would want to become a priest.

If Sigmund Freud were alive today and someone asked him why he would give the answer in two words.

 

[PRmerger]

One thing I’ve noticed. You don’t see too many Catholics who are adamant about women becoming priests, who aren’t just as adamant that the Church should also allow gays to marry, to allow a woman to choose**, to allow for divorce,** to make allowance for contraception, to allow one to be able to choose when to die with dignity, and on and on and on. But I guess when you consider that only 1 in 3 Catholics believe in the Real Presence, 1 in 4 attend Mass regularly and Confession going is pretty much nil…this really isn’t too difficult to understand at all.

Peace, Mark

Just to clarify: the Church does allow for divorce.

 

[Tigg]

If Sigmund Freud were alive today and someone asked him why he would give the answer in two words.

I’m sure! It’s in the psychology rather than the spiritual. I wish they would examine the reasons they feel so unfulfilled or inferior to men if they cannot attain the priesthood. It’s the cult of self which can bring both women and men to ruin.