Pope: Rescinding DACA is not 'pro-life'

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Interestingly, 1) the pope admits he isn’t familiar with the details of DACA (some might say, then prudence would advise not making comments you know full well will appear in the media almost instantly); and 2) one wonders if the pope made any airplane comments about the pro-abortion stance of certain American politicians. If not, why single out Trump and DACA (especially when you don’t even know the details of the latter)?
 
The Pope’s absolutely correct - it’s NOT “pro-life.”

Definitely not “pro-life” to literally spit up families. So, it’s not pro-family, either.

And considering that many DACA students are in school for STEM, it’s also detrimental to the health and well-being of our country - literally, in some cases, as your next doctor could be a DACA recipient and there are in fact DACA recipients serving in our Armed Forces: Pentagon says DACA recipients in military number fewer than 900 - CBS News
 
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First things first: can we see the actual comments the Holy Father made, in their entirety, before we start interpreting them?
 
BenedicamDominum said:
First things first: can we see the actual comments the Holy Father made, in their entirety, before we start interpreting them?
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I agree. They quoted the pope, but not anything that matched the headline. That is typical for news which makes news stories by misrepresentation.
 
Catholics can disagree about DACA (which the pope admits he’s not even fully familiar with). Catholics cannot disagree on, say abortion…and yet one wonders if the pope has named pro-abortion US politicians in his countless plane interviews the way he singled out the President for DACA. If not, why not?
 
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The Pope’s absolutely correct - it’s NOT “pro-life.”

Definitely not “pro-life” to literally spit up families. So, it’s not pro-family, either.

And considering that many DACA students are in school for STEM, it’s also detrimental to the health and well-being of our country - literally, in some cases, as your next doctor could be a DACA recipient and there are in fact DACA recipients serving in our Armed Forces: Pentagon says DACA recipients in military number fewer than 900 - CBS News
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You are absolutely right. It is not pro-life to be splitting up families, so we should send the entire crew back. 😎
 
Is it pro-life to host rabid pro-abortionists and eugenicists at multiple different conferences and then praise a woman who is personally responsible for thousands of abortions?
 
Folks:

This is not a Pro-Life issue. This is what anti-Catholics do – mix other issues in with Pro-Life to discredit the Church and the Pro-Life movement. This may or may not be a Pro-Family issue, but it is not a Pro-life issue.
 
I agree that rescinding DACA is contrary to mercy. However, he’s blaming the wrong person. While deporting those who are in the country illegally, having arrived as children, is lacking in mercy, it is not manifestly unjust. DACA is, however, manifestly unconstitutional, and so President Trump, having sworn to God to uphold the Constitution, had to rescind DACA under pain of taking the Lord’s Name in vain. Pope Francis should join with President Trump in urging Congress to change the law.
 
So, if this is all a matter of opinion and we can just bash the Pope and ignore him, can one person here name one bishop in the United States that actually believes we should send these young people back? One? Anyone?
 
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So, if this is all a matter of opinion and we can just bash the Pope and ignore him, can one person here name one bishop in the United States that actually believes we should send these young people back? One? Anyone?
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Or stated another way, does anyone know of one bishop who supports the rule of law. I don’t know the position of various bishops. I do know that as a rule in the US there has been generally a complete rejection of meaningful borders.
 
Here is the actually quote from CNN. Forget the headline. It can misleading.

“The President of the United States presents himself as pro-life and if he is a good pro-lifer, he understands that family is the cradle of life and its unity must be protected,” Francis said.

The main problem here is that who says anything about breaking up the family? I don’t think Trump is going to send individual kids back home. I would disagree with that. But not all DACA folks are kids. Many are grown adults. Furthermore, let’s say we deport the kids back home with their families. How is that breaking the family apart?
 
Incarceration also breaks up families. Is that the fault of the criminal or the fault of the lawbringers?
 
If not supporting DACA (which the executive branch should have had no part of) makes one not pro-life, then could someone claim that someone else isn’t pro-choice if they don’t support private schools or gun ownership?

As always, I’m interested in what the Pope actually said, not what the media is implying.
 
whats up with Trumps DACA tweet fest atm? what is he saying

https://www.google.com.au/amp/abc13.com/amp/politics/trump-denies-daca-deal-made-with-dems/2413969/

Donald J. Trump ✔️ @realDonaldTrump
Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!..
8:28 PM - Sep 14, 2017
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Donald J. Trump ✔️ @realDonaldTrump
…They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security
8:35 PM - Sep 14, 2017
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and

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.
8:11 PM · Sep 14, 2017
 
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Let’s consider DAGAs married to legal residents. Or part legal part illegal families.
 
All bishops support the rule of law, though it is Catholic teaching that civil authority is not absolute. This is irrelevant though, as we are discussing what is legal.
 
Which is why I also support the time-honored tradition of churches as sanctuaries. The police must not enter a church to make an arrest uninvited. The fugitive remains under the Church’s protection only as long as he remains on church grounds. In this way, the Church serves as a check on overzealous or corrupt civil authorities, while the civil authorities still get to maintain law and order.
 
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