Pope Saint Pius X Oath Against Modernism

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None of those things are part the heresy of Modernism. Likewise, none of those things are mandated by Vatican II. Do you know what Modernism is? Modernism has to do with the source of revealed truths–or more accurately, the very existence of authentic Divine revelation–that’s why it is the synthesis of all heresies–it rejects the very foundation of religion, that is revelation from God–read Dei Verbum and see what it deals with :). Likewise, all post-Concilliar popes have also upheld the orthodox undertsanding of revelation.🙂
Vatican II was intended to “update” the Church to the modern world. If that isn’t Modernism, I don’t know what is. All of the problems that have occured in the Church since VII were ALLOWED by VII, pure and simple. To defend VII in the wake of the decline of the Church since then is either to be a modernist or blind.
 
If you are making the statement, it is up to you to support your position.
I am supporting my position by citing the source of my information which is “EWTN, A Network Gone Wrong” by Christopher Ferrarra, I suggest you read the book.
 
your comment about ewtn is getting off topic. this post is not about
ewtn. i want my post respected if it cannot be respected then please do not post. i had my other one shut down because posters were not respecting the topic of the post.
 
Someone asked, I answered.
irrelevent. people have been derailing posts here. whomever is responsible please stop doing it. i would sincerely appreciate it. jean anthony will close the post if it continues to get out of hand. i for one don’t want that to happen. can’t i post here without people derailing my posts?
 
anyone not speaking about the topic at hand and discussing the ewtn is not keeping the post about the oath against modernism.
iam asking one more time, please do not discuss it. it has no bearing on the topic at hand. if you want to discuss ewtn or anything that is not related to the topic, open a thread about whatever you want to discuss. only please do not do it here.its not fair to me to have my posts derailed. and not fair to those who are wanting to discuss the topic with me.
 
All of the problems that have occured in the Church since VII were ALLOWED by VII, pure and simple. To defend VII in the wake of the decline of the Church since then is either to be a modernist or blind.
The abuses and problems we have are not authorized by Vatican II. Vatican II never said to turn around the Altar, forget Latin, become Iconoclasts, hate tradition, and turn the Church faithful into a bunch of feel good womanly hippies.

Read Vatican II carefully and you will see that we have a long way to go before it is properly implemented.

Now EWTN may have had a couple people who have been a little wimpy in their representation of Catholicism but to call it Protestant is a little too much. I have read a network gone wrong and just because some people sometimes have done some cowardly things doesn’t make it Protestant it just illustrates that we are human and fail to live up to what we should do sometimes.

Now I say we should bring back the Oath against Modernism or something similar as we need to understand that the faith doesn’t change. Maybe an updated Oath of fidelity to Christ and Obedience to His Church which clearly states the errors that need to be repudiated.

Now has anyone come up with why the Oath against Modernism was done away with?

God Bless
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Alright, enough already about ewtn! no one is listening to me!:mad:
if you folks want to discuss EWTN please go open a thread about it!
it does not belong in this post!:mad: no respect for me at al!:mad:
 
Vatican II was intended to “update” the Church to the modern world. If that isn’t Modernism, I don’t know what is. All of the problems that have occured in the Church since VII were ALLOWED by VII, pure and simple. To defend VII in the wake of the decline of the Church since then is either to be a modernist or blind.
Which would mean that the post-conciliar popes are either heretics or idgits.:rolleyes:
 
Please keep to the OP’s topic or I will, as she says, have to close the thread. Thank you.
 
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