We’ve given proof. You haven’t denied that our examples were not true. If you are looking for those types of atrocities being committed today by Christians, there aren’t any. Why are you ignoring the past and not believing that history can repeat itself?
Wow, now its ok the say fundamentalist Muslims atrocities happening today are just as bad as fundamentalist Christian atrocities that will happen some time in the future? Should I go to confession now or after it happens?
Of course any such acts are bad no matter who does them. Your basically saying that it’s ok for Christians to commit the same atrocities that ISIS is committing right now but it’s not as bad somehow? Your should go to confession right now for your vile thoughts.
So you die and you pain ends. But if you don’t die, your anger, frustration, and ill will spreads through every relationship you form, and it poisons society.
The Pope is not appealing to specific instances or shining the light of judgement on specific peoples in specific incidents. He says what he says. The stock fundamentalist approach is to take an exhortation, or scripture passage, or Church teaching, and assail it with impossible and tangential questions of proof, which don’t really address the heart of the message but deflect away from it.
That is a bit much. The difference is that the Christians doing that aren’t murdering entire villages or blowing stuff up. And, you know, there is heresy out there and it isn’t necessarily a bsd thing to point it out when necessary.
Man…to read about something, but to actually see pictures…very saddening to see people suffer like that.
But the problem is that people throw around words like “heretic” and “heresy” just because they disagree, not because it is true.
Exactly and one of the markers of fundamentalism that Pope Francis mentioned in his list was to ‘calumniate’ … and to condemn others of heresy when not even the hierarchy of the Church uses such a condemnation… is as calumnious as it comes.
Not to mention that the thread is about Christian fundamentalism being present in every Church-- it is a mistake to let the thread be reduced to whether or not Christians are killing people over it.
Not to mention that the thread is about Christian fundamentalism being present in every Church-- it is a mistake to let the thread be reduced to whether or not Christians are killing people over it.
In response to the part of your post I highlighted. Perhaps the greatest damage that fundamentalism does is that it excludes the Holy Spirit from having its due influence in the minds of people-- it is a form of thought policing. It is rigid and exclusive and separates from God. Fundamentalism seeks security in the world of ideas instead of in God. Fundamentalism is a form of control where the fundamentalist him or herself is exercising a harmful control of thought and action upon the self. This control always finds expression in being abusive and uncharitable towards others in the name of God and truth.
The blindness of the fundamentalist is to strain out a gnat and swallow a camel. They seem particularly attuned to the slightest (even unintentional) word or idea that is even subtly unorthodox and jump at the opportunity to correct, judge and teach all the while being blind to charity, context and the intentions of those that need correcting
Christians arent committing any atrocities.
Because your example happened hundreds of years ago and have yet to happen yet. It not proof its happening today!!!
There are Christian groups who commit atrocities. A number of links were given above by another member. Here is one of them.
What I wonder is what the Pope means when he says fundamentalist? I have searched for a definition.
Exactly and one of the markers of fundamentalism that Pope Francis mentioned in his list was to ‘calumniate’ … and to condemn others of heresy when not even the hierarchy of the Church uses such a condemnation… is as calumnious as it comes.
They killed two people. I cant find the “number of links” that are part of the thread in which I posted.
Yes you are confused. The Pope stated there are Christian fundamentalists who kill, destroy and defame. He said as much when he didn’t exclude Christianity when he said there are “religions” who do this.