Pope says weapons manufacturers can't call themselves Christian

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I have decided to reopen this thread, however take it as an unconfirmed report until someone can post exactly what the Holy Father said and in context.
 
friardchips said:
Good article, except I don’t see how a Christian could ever justify killing animals, especially majestic animals such as deer, for sport - this is bloodlust.
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I’ve never met a deer hunter that hunted for sport, they usually eat it themselves or give the meat away (hopefully to my family so I can get some deer kilbasa 👍). There are families in the United States that rely on game to feed themselves. It’s far better than getting meat from factory farms.

Trophy hunting is a completely different story, I’m absolutely opposed to that.
 
I think it has to be a mis-translation issue or the full context is not reported, such as the Angel of peace quote we had a month ago.
 
friardchips said:
Good article, except I don’t see how a Christian could ever justify killing animals, especially majestic animals such as deer, for sport - this is bloodlust.
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There’s also the need to cull the herd so that available resources and land support a healthy herd and not an excess population starving due to insufficient natural resources.
 
I think in this same speech, if not in another speech he wondered why the Allies didnt bomb the tracks to Austwitchz (spelling)…Wouldnt that require the use of an indiscrimanate weapon?

I am struggling to find a complete text of his remarks as I want to be fair to the Pope without the media filter. Does anyone have a link?
 
I heard one commentary say that when the Pope comments, it is often through his perspective and background. That being from Argentina.

I think there have long been a few weapons manufacturers in Italy making sporting rifles.
 
CHESTERTONRULES said:
You don’t believe police or soldiers should have weapons?
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American police should not use their weapons to beat and kill innocent unarmed black children and American soldiers should not have dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent children.
 
Tomdstone said:
American police should not use their weapons to beat and kill innocent unarmed black children and American soldiers should not have dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent children.
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And we shouldn’t strangle puppies in front of children.

You didn’t answer the question.
 
CHESTERTONRULES said:
Is it OK as a faithful Catholic to conclude that maybe we just have a bad pope?

He seems like a very sincere, good man who wants to follow Jesus, but he shoots from the hip and he comes from a very leftist worldview.

It’s discouraging.
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Isn’t it kind of a stretch to conclude he is a “bad pope”?
I have no dog in the fight since I am not catholic, but it seems saying things that the faithful may not agree with, does not rise to level being a bad pope.

I wouldn’t read into his statement that weapons are always bad (at least for defense it is necessary). I think his larger message is against those who encourage war to increase their profits. As you said he seems to very sincere, and I have noticed he speaks a lot about war which seems to indicate that he is troubled (as many christians are) by the numerous wars going on and the persecution of christians in many parts of the world.
 
QuestLove said:
Isn’t it kind of a stretch to conclude he is a “bad pope”?
I have no dog in the fight since I am not catholic, but it seems saying things that the faithful may not agree with, does not rise to level being a bad pope.
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That’s what I am asking.

What is a bad pope? I’m not concluding anything, just pondering.

He is supposed to represent all Catholics. It seems he is throwing some of us under the bus.

Previous popes(in my lifetime) have been very measured and cautious in their statements, realizing that there are many prudential issues about which good Catholics may disagree.
 
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