Pope says weapons manufacturers can't call themselves Christian

[Tbrightson]

Capital can be raised through human effort. In other words, hard work, results in receiving capital, capital can then be used to build a business.

This is what is wrong with education today. It is not teaching people how a capitalistic system works.

People think they have to get a loan from a bank or otherwise to start a business.

I know quite well how the capitalism system works. I have a small business myself actually. When your current job barely pays enough to feed the kids and put a roof over your head your not going to be able to create much capital on your own

 

[bobcrawford]

I know quite well how the capitalism system works. I have a small business myself actually. When your current job barely pays enough to feed the kids and put a roof over your head your not going to be able to create much capital on your own

Sorry your business is not producing enough. So, you are either in the wrong business, or you don’t know how to run a business.

Most small business people I know who provide a quality product and good service are doing very well.

Then again, if your business has a product or service not desired by most people, then you need to move to another line of business.

If you truly understood capitalism, you would already have that understanding.

 

[bobcrawford]

That is not entirely true either. There are conventional weapons that can produce the some genetic damage.

Agent Orange is one conventional “weapon” though used more to kill vegetation to expose the enemy rather that kill him.

Weapons tipped with depleted uranium considered conventional, have the same affect.

There are many other conventional weapons that have chemicals that can cause DNA thus genetic issues. Countries are not using basic gunpowder any longer. All this stuff can cause genetic issues with the “right” exposure.

 

[Tbrightson]

Sorry your business is not producing enough. So, you are either in the wrong business, or you don’t know how to run a business.

Most small business people I know who provide a quality product and good service are doing very well.

Then again, if your business has a product or service not desired by most people, then you need to move to another line of business.

If you truly understood capitalism, you would already have that understanding./QUOTE

??? We are talking about the capital to START a business not about growing one. And you incorrectly assume I am talking about my busines

 

[OneSheep]

I didn’t read the entire thread so I don’t know if this issue has already been cleared up or not.

Just in case it hasn’t, I read an article that may suggest that there was some translation errors. Here’s the article…thecatholicgeeks.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/pope-francis-on-guns-reasons-not-to-freak-out/

Excerpt from the Pope’s statement:

There is the hypocrisy of speaking about peace and producing arms, and even selling weapons to this one, who is at war with that one, and to that one who is at war with this!

He was referring to the suppliers of weapons during wars. For example, during the the Iran/Iraq war, 10 nations supplied weapons to both sides of the conflict. Even the U.S. was supplying weapons to Iraq, yet covertly helping Iran.

Keep in mind that military weapons manufacturers in the U.S. have only one means of advertising their products: lobbying our government. Of course the military industry is well-intended, they are seeing their products as a means to “world peace”.

However, in the long view world peace does not happen through military action, it happens through forgiveness and reconciliation. I look forward to a time when the military industry promotes this course of action!

 

[Bubba_Switzler]

He was referring to the suppliers of weapons during wars. For example,

For example:





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[crai7]

I agree the Protestant work ethic does not exist much in the U.S. or the European countries currently, but not sure so asking, are you suggesting that Catholics did not develop a work ethic and thus are more supportive of people accepting handouts rather than obtaining what one need to live on through a job and dignity?

I’m not sure how outward signs of faith and repentance have evolved in Catholicism, and what has happened more recently in terms of the theology. But I suspect that Calvinism’s heightened focus on frugality, hard work and efficiency as an ‘outward’ sign that one was truly faithful had an impact, at least in the first few centuries. I’m not sure this was linked to economics in the same way in Catholicism. Also, perhaps the reformation let scientists have more freedom in those countries, and that may have contributed to England leading the industrial revolution.