Pope to purge the Vatican of modern music

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This article (as the real title implies) only applies to the Vatican.

However, I would like to see this happen everywhere. My parish is already that way,
 
I already love Pope Benedict immensely, but I seem to constantly be finding more and more reasons to appreciate him.

I pray that his ‘purge’ does not stop at the Vatican, and that the Holy Spirit continues to guide our Shepherd.
 
This might only apply to the Vatican, but should not Papal Masses be used as an example for the Liturgy everywhere?
 
This article is inspirational, I wish that all parishes could have this type of liturgical music.

The “Why the Pope is right to purge modern music” link there is a good article as well.
 
Btw what kind of music was being played in the Vatican, surely not “folk music” as well?
 
BXVI is simply replacing the Vatican liturgical trappings to suit his personal tastes. He has yet to really take on the liberal episcopal establishment on any liturgical matter of substance and I have yet to see any indications that intends to will.

It would be nice, though, if the Vatican Chorus could be made to sound like something other than a gaggle of geese. Sorry, but they’ve been an embarassment in recent decades. He should send the boys in the choir home and hire a choral director who apprenticed under Robert Shaw in Atlanta.
 
YES!!! This is from that article:
Mgr Valentin Miserachs Grau, the director of the Pontifical Institute of Sacred Music, which trains church musicians, said that there had been serious “deviations” in the performance of sacred music.

“How far we are from the true spirit of sacred music. How can we stand it that such a wave of inconsistent, arrogant and ridiculous profanities have so easily gained a stamp of approval in our celebrations?” he said.

He added that a pontifical office could correct the abuses, and would be “opportune”. He said: “Due to general ignorance, especially in sectors of the clergy, there exists music which is devoid of sanctity, true art and universality.”

I sure agree with that, I’ve heard some pretty serious “deviations” in some of the Parishes I’ve gone to also.

Sounds to me like he means it for all Parishes too. Thank God.
 
The appalling music in the liturgy is one of the biggest problems I’ve had to deal with as an Episcopalian convert. With the rich musical heritage in the Catholic Church, I found it incomprehensible that all I ever heard at Mass was banal modern hymns that even most Episcopal churches wouldn’t have sung.

I think a return to the liturgical standards set forth in Sacrosanctam Conciliam would be a major improvement in the day to day life of the Church.
 
chris_molter said:
The appalling music in the liturgy is one of the biggest problems I’ve had to deal with as an Episcopalian convert. With the rich musical heritage in the Catholic Church, I found it incomprehensible that all I ever heard at Mass was banal modern hymns that even most Episcopal churches wouldn’t have sung.

I think a return to the liturgical standards set forth in Sacrosanctam Conciliam would be a major improvement in the day to day life of the Church.
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I agree, but how do I get the guitars, keyboard, drums, and hammond organ out of our church? LOL
 
I still like my parish. They have different music ministries. The regular organ for the traditional folks, a solo cantor for an early mass, a children’s choir and a piano guitar mass. You get your choice for which one you want to got to. There is plenty of good modern worship music. It’s not all bad.
 
goofyjim said:
I still like my parish. They have different music ministries. The regular organ for the traditional folks, a solo cantor for an early mass, a children’s choir and a piano guitar mass. You get your choice for which one you want to got to. There is plenty of good modern worship music. It’s not all bad.
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All the more reason to purge the Church of this nonsense. Don’t you “get it” yet? People are ‘choosing’ participation in the Mass based on the choice of music they prefer - NOT CHRIST!
 
The Sistine Chapel Choir has sounded atrocious for years. It’s no wonder all the “Why Catholics Can’t Sing” music has made such inroads.
 
Cactus said:
The Sistine Chapel Choir has sounded atrocious for years. It’s no wonder all the “Why Catholics Can’t Sing” music has made such inroads.
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That is why the pope has literally ‘fired’ the music director and replaced him with someone else who actually knows how to direct LOL
 
There are many legitimate points of view on liturgical music and development. I hope all readers of this forum will be respectful of those who do not see “purging” the church of so-called modern music as some kind of inspired decision. It is a practical decision well within the province of the Bishop of Rome, but is no way, shape, or form an exercise of any kind of infallibility. Shortly after he was elected, the Holy Father said that he had no intention of imposing his own tastes upon the whole church. I am still taking him at his word. God is glorified in all the ways that human beings can sing his praises. To suggest otherwise borders on absurd.
 
fjacks said:
There are many legitimate points of view on liturgical music and development. I hope all readers of this forum will be respectful of those who do not see “purging” the church of so-called modern music as some kind of inspired decision. It is a practical decision well within the province of the Bishop of Rome, but is no way, shape, or form an exercise of any kind of infallibility. Shortly after he was elected, the Holy Father said that he had no intention of imposing his own tastes upon the whole church. I am still taking him at his word. God is glorified in all the ways that human beings can sing his praises. To suggest otherwise borders on absurd.
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**It used to be where the Fine Arts mattered in terms of not only Liturgy but in the creation of worship space as well. Fine Arts are exactly as to how they are defined: the best and the most beautiful reflection of art, music, sculpture, literature , etc. that should both reflect and enhance the Liturgy as “heaven on earth.”

Much of “liturgical music” that is thrown around today lacks addressing God in the first person. When it *does *address God it is mostly in the third person, as if God cannot be addressed in a relationship. It’s all about ‘us’; much of it reflects our wants and desires and approaching God on our terms rather than His; it is reflective of narcissism and poor theology, sometimes bordering on heresy itself. It’s not reflective of “heaven on earth” but of our desire to superimpose “earth onto heaven,” thereby making our limited experiences the measure of all things. If anything is absurd, it is that.

Allowing the “triumph of the ghetto over culture” has had negative repercussion in the way Catholics worship as a community. Hopefully, the pope will start the process of raising the sights of the average person in the pew to realize that yes, there can be something better.**
 
peary said:
All the more reason to purge the Church of this nonsense. Don’t you “get it” yet? People are ‘choosing’ participation in the Mass based on the choice of music they prefer - NOT CHRIST!
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And I suppose the only correct form of worship is the TLM.:rolleyes: It’s not how we worship that is important, it is who we worship. The rest can vary. I think it is more important to get people to mass than to drive them away.
 
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