Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion

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ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Wednesday warned Catholic politicians they risked excommunication from the Church and should not receive communion if they support abortion. It was the first time that the Pope, speaking to reporters aboard the plane taking him on a trip to Brazil, dealt in depth with a controversial topic that has come up in many countries, including the United States, Mexico, and Italy.

The Pope was asked whether he supported Mexican Church leaders threatening to excommunicate leftist parliamentarians who last month voted to legalize abortion in Mexico City.

“Yes, this excommunication was not an arbitrary one but is allowed by Canon (church) law which says that the killing of an innocent child is incompatible with receiving communion, which is receiving the body of Christ,” he said.

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You beat me to it - I was just about to post this.

Excellent. 👍
 
Man i am not fast enough on posting today!

I wonder if the news is going to start asking some hard questions to certain politicans. The pope was direct about his answer. i wonder is nancy, ted and john are going to be able to talk around it now…
 
estesbob said:
Only if the Bishops start to enforce it.
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Exactly my thought. They have thumbed their noses at the Church so long, that I doubt they would do anything different.

[EDIT]Ooh…I meant the pro-abortion Catholic politicians…not the Bishops. Yikes…gotta watch those pronouns.

I do wish the Bishops would be firmer though. [/EDIT]
 
After 44 million abortions in USA the Pope gives a warning. Hey, great! But the Pope hasn’t ever been the problem.

The question isn’t will the politicians take heed; it’s will the bishops take heed or will they continue to act oblivious and uninformed about the political activity of their flock. In the USA, plenty of bishops provide the cover for political activity backing abortion.
 
Tom317 said:
Yes, it is a very good thing. 🙂

I wonder if it will make a dent in the minds of our pro-abort Catholic politicians.
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Well, after all the years they had to bear listening to Pope JPII, with Benedict XVI it won’t really be any different. They tend to act oblivious to the constant scolding of the vatican, and with fancy word-working completely side-step the issue. It may, however, affect the minds of so-called “middle ground” Catholic Americans to adhere all the more to the Church. Politicians will be way to cold-hearted to change, as they don’t want to lose human respect from their base.

I wish the pope would just mention people by name and tell the world on the general media that they are officially excommunicated. That way, the “catholic” politicians can’t sidestep the issue, and will have to either admit that (A) they were worng in supporting abortion/embro stem cell reaserch/homosexual marriage, and thereby renounce those positions for the sake of remaining in the Church (B) that they formally renounce it in public or (C) act like protestants and try to start their own “catholic” church of America.

I say kick them out, NOW:knight2:

some time out in the cold will do some good for them to think things over :rolleyes:. God help them.
 
mdzialo1 said:
After 44 million abortions in USA the Pope gives a warning. Hey, great! But the Pope hasn’t ever been the problem.

The question isn’t will the politicians take heed; it’s will the bishops take heed or will they continue to act oblivious and uninformed about the political activity of their flock. In the USA, plenty of bishops provide the cover for political activity backing abortion.
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That’s when I wish the bishops wouldn’t be such yellowbacks and actually start throwing people out!

But I bet that they are afraid of some sort of loss. If I were in their position, I wouldn’t give a second thought to kicking the dissenting “catholics” out. They would be out of there SO fast.

I mean, how hard could it be? It’s just simply PITCH and THROW, SUPER EASY, COME ON!!! :mad: Just pull out the sword of Truth and start hacking NOW!!! :knight2:
 
M-Dent said:
The Bishop of Rome is hopefully a model they will follow.
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I pray that he stays on the offensive and that he comes down on the dissenters as ‘Papa’, as father.
We despartately need that leadership.

I thnk the hesitation is that he knows many Bishops are not on board. Well I think he should expose that instead of trying to ignore that ‘elephant in the room’.

We nee OUTSPOKEN leadership from all the bishops especially the bishop of Rome.
 
I do not know how anyone can call themselves a Catholic and support Abortion at the same time. I am really for the excommunicating the politicians for supporting abortion and abortion rights, I just don’t see how they convinced themselves
 
St_Violet said:
I do not know how anyone can call themselves a Catholic and support Abortion at the same time. I am really for the excommunicating the politicians for supporting abortion and abortion rights, I just don’t see how they convinced themselves
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They get away with it because Catholics who claim to be against abortion vote for them.
 
is it just me or isn’t our presidental choices just getting worse and worse.

did John Kerry get excommunitcated on the 2004 campaign, he to is a catholic and support abortion, just curious
 
estesbob said:
They get away with it because Catholics who claim to be against abortion vote for them.
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I agree with you Bob.

Have we heard anything from our friends who vote democratic? I have to assume they are rejoicing as well, but would a democratic supporter comment please?
 
If a Catholic legialator chose to represent the pope’s views rather than his constituents’ views, I doubt he would be a legialator very long. I also suspect the voters would then be wary of electing Catholics.
 
GreenJeans said:
If a Catholic legialator chose to represent the pope’s views rather than his constituents’ views, I doubt he would be a legialator very long. I also suspect the voters would then be wary of electing Catholics.
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How about this: Legislators who happen to be Catholic should always follow their conscience, which by Church mandate must be well formed in the Roman Catholic faith, and anyone who dissents with formal Church teachings has a poorly formed conscience.
 
There needn’t be a document prepared nor an announcement that the person is excommunicated. From what I understand it happens immediately, irregardless of a bureaucratic process, and thus they are in grave sin and apostasy until they make ammends for their action. That is, whether or not the clergy is conscious of the person’s actions, they have been tacitly excommunicated.

Correct me please if I’m wrong.

Their salvation is a personal matter at that point that should concern us, but doesn’t require public humiliation. All it requires is God’s recognition that the Church has bound them on earth to stay away from abortion, and if they don’t…presto.

Now of course the clergy should know this and not allow them to receive the body of Christ, but whether or not this happens, and whther or not the Church creates a “blacklist,” the people are no longer considered part of the team.

Pray for them so that they may no longer harm the Body of Christ in their sin. Pray for their salvation. Pray for their conversion.

Is my theology off here? Corrections are welcome.

God bless
Aaron
 
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