Pope will not visit Roman Univesity

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POPE WILL NOT MAKE SCHEDULED VISIT TO ROMAN UNIVERSITY
http://www.zenit.org/article-21501?l=english


VATICAN CITY, 16 JAN 2008 (VIS) - The Pope will not make the visit he was scheduled to make tomorrow, 17 January, to Rome’s “La Sapienza” University for the inauguration of the academic year, according to a communique released yesterday evening by the Holy See Press Office.

The communique reads: “In the wake of the widely-publicised events of the last few days relating to the Holy Father’s visit to Rome’s ‘La Sapienza’ University which, at the invitation of the rector, was to have taken place on Thursday, 17 January, it was considered opportune to postpone the event. The Holy Father will, nonetheless, send the text of the speech he had been due to pronounce”.

The “events” to which the note refers include a petition to the rector signed by 67 professors asking for the invitation to Benedict XVI to be withdrawn, and protests by groups of students who yesterday occupied the rector’s office to demand the right to demonstrate within the university campus on the day of the Pope’s visit.

The signatories of the petition take exception to a talk given by the then Cardinal Ratzinger in 1990, and in particular to a phrase he used on that occasion to the effect that “in Galileo’s time the Church remained much more faithful to reason than Galileo himself. The trial against Galileo was reasonable and just”. The future Pope’s remarks, a quote from a work by the philosopher of science Paul Feyerabend, were made in the context of a talk on the crisis of confidence in science, in which he used the example of changing attitudes towards the case of Galileo.
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Personally, I just don’t get why there is a protest.
 
I don’t understand this. By withdrawing, isn’t he letting these people push him around? I hope he reconsiders. Maybe if they heard his message some might have a change of heart.
 
The Boston Globe’s article on this story included a prominent picture of a protester wearing a Pope Benedict mask and miter with the following words prominently displayed on the miter: “Stop homophobia”. The very liberal Globe is a frequent defender of gay marriage and the gay lifestyle and a frequent critic of the Catholic church so it’s doubtful that the picture was coincidental.

boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2008/01/16/pope_cancels_speech_at_university_in_rome/
 
The headlines are a bit misleading. According to the body of the text, the visit is merely being postponed.
 
The article indicated that the protesters were mad at the Pope (then Cardinal Ratzinger) for giving a speech at the University in 1990 for defending the Church’s punishment of Gallileo for suggesting that the earth revolves around the sun. Does anyone have the text to that speech? Could it be that the secular media is once again twisting the Pope’s words to make it look like he was anti-science.
 
Being in Rome, I thought I would comment on this fiasco.
I haven’t seen any of the demonstrations, but I know that Italians are talking about this, and they are so ashamed that this would happen. The last time the Pope JPII went to the Sapienza, he was heckled, but now the radicals are really feeling their oats. They want to hurt the Church any way they can, and they don’t care whom they offend in the process.
Expect a VERY big turn out at the Sunday Angelus. Word is the Neocatechumenal movement, Communion and Liberation, and in general all the organizations that backed the big Family Day demonstration last year will be out in force.
See you in the Piazza!:cool:
 
Being in Rome, I thought I would comment on this fiasco.
I haven’t seen any of the demonstrations, but I know that Italians are talking about this, and they are so ashamed that this would happen. The last time the Pope JPII went to the Sapienza, he was heckled, but now the radicals are really feeling their oats. They want to hurt the Church any way they can, and they don’t care whom they offend in the process.
Expect a VERY big turn out at the Sunday Angelus. Word is the Neocatechumenal movement, Communion and Liberation, and in general all the organizations that backed the big Family Day demonstration last year will be out in force.
See you in the Piazza!:cool:
Awesome! Thanks for the “insider info”! 😉
 
Being in Rome, I thought I would comment on this fiasco.
I haven’t seen any of the demonstrations, but I know that Italians are talking about this, and they are so ashamed that this would happen. The last time the Pope JPII went to the Sapienza, he was heckled, but now the radicals are really feeling their oats. They want to hurt the Church any way they can, and they don’t care whom they offend in the process.
Expect a VERY big turn out at the Sunday Angelus. Word is the Neocatechumenal movement, Communion and Liberation, and in general all the organizations that backed the big Family Day demonstration last year will be out in force.
See you in the Piazza!:cool:
I don’t see how this is anything but a prudent move by the Pope. He has avoided a demonstration and denied the protestors more coverage on the world stage. This doesn’t hurt the Church at all.
 
This has indeed been handled very well by the Pope and his advisors. The egg is on the leftists’ faces, but they’re too angry to notice.
The organizers and their stooges in the Italian press claimed that Ratzinger had said something anti-Galileo once, but that has been shown to be false over here. The great Sandro Magister has the English text of the Pope’s speech and an article by a Jewish professor on the so-called anti-science remarks:
chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/186421?eng=y
 
I read this article this morning with great joy. I’m waiting to see what the Pope has install for us next. You have my prayers and support.
 
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Pope Benedict may not be there in person but he* will*** be there. This negative reaction to his attending will clarify his message, prove him correct and generate much more interest.
He certainly has a way of getting his messages confirmed and illuminated by the** very** reactions of those who** reject** them :)!
God Bless him.
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Quote from Pope Benedicts Message:
Expressed from the point of view of the university’s structure, this means: there is the danger that philosophy, no longer feeling itself capable of fulfilling its true task, would degrade into positivism; that theology, with its message addressed to reason**,** would be confined to the private sphere of a more or less substantial group. But if reason – engrossed in** its own presumed purity** – becomes** deaf** to the great message that comes to it from the Christian faith and its wisdom, it dries up like a tree whose roots no longer reach the water that gives it life. It loses its courage for the truth, and thus diminishes instead of increasing.

Applied to our European culture, this means: if this wants only to construct itself on the basis of its own circular reasoning and of what it finds convincing at the moment, and – preoccupied with its secular characterseparates itself from the roots by which it lives, it then does not become more reasonable and more pure, but **disintegrates **and collapses.
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Does anyone know if there are online accounts of the Galileo trial’s documentation or of the documentation of correspondence to and from Galileo ?

Also, Galileo’s fictional character - Simplicio, does it have an Italian meaning, such as ‘simple’ or is it just a name ?

Also i understand that during the Inquisition, the reigning Pope was at once at least, a Copernican supporter like Galileo. Did he remain as such or change his views ?

Again, does anybody know what the specifics of the arguements were at the trial, such as talking about tidal movements supporting earth movement (viz moon’s influence) and other topics of discussion ?

Thanks.
 
Does anyone know if there are online accounts of the Galileo trial’s documentation or of the documentation of correspondence to and from Galileo ?

Also, Galileo’s fictional character - Simplicio, does it have an Italian meaning, such as ‘simple’ or is it just a name ?

Also i understand that during the Inquisition, the reigning Pope was at once at least, a Copernican supporter like Galileo. Did he remain as such or change his views ?

Again, does anybody know what the specifics of the arguements were at the trial, such as talking about tidal movements supporting earth movement (viz moon’s influence) and other topics of discussion ?

Thanks.
Abucs…there is quite a bit of material (in the form of articles) here at Catholic Answers…have you checked these out?
http://www.catholic.com/search.asp?query=+Galileo
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This is a lot ado about nothing. It is more about the ego of a bunch of professors from the physics department than about the Pope and its views. I am old and I studied under Prof. Frova, Prof. Cini etc. I remember them quite well.

If professors of the caliber and faith of Edoardo Amaldi were still around (yes I studied under him too), then these individuals would be much more careful with their statements and noisemaking about the Pope. They (Cini) even dared of using Amaldi’s name in such an infamous letter to attack the Pope and those who invite him.
 
Does anyone know if there are online accounts of the Galileo trial’s documentation or of the documentation of correspondence to and from Galileo ?

Also, Galileo’s fictional character - Simplicio, does it have an Italian meaning, such as ‘simple’ or is it just a name ?

Also i understand that during the Inquisition, the reigning Pope was at once at least, a Copernican supporter like Galileo. Did he remain as such or change his views ?

Again, does anybody know what the specifics of the arguements were at the trial, such as talking about tidal movements supporting earth movement (viz moon’s influence) and other topics of discussion ?

Thanks.
There are also many great articles at the Catholic Educator’s Resource Center:

Articles on Galileo
Articles on the Inquisition
 
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