Pope's critic's don't care about kids

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Unfotunately this article was sourced from the original hit piece. He did not spnd his last 24 years freely working woth children-he spent his last 24 years living with his Mother and having NO minesterial duties. None.

Again the future Pope didnt get involved until 20 years later(Pope Benedict was a cleric in Germany when the allegations intitally surfaced). Fr Murhpy died before the trail could commence.

The Church did not have the power to put this man in jail. The only power they had was to put himslef someplace where he would do no more harm. Which they did. There are absolutely no allegations that he abused anyone after he was removed from his poistion at the School for the Deaf. If people are upset he didnt go to jail why arent they picketing the District Attorneys office that declined to prosecute him?

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A Response to the New York Times [Fr. Raymond J. de Souza]

The New York Times on March 25 accused Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, of intervening to prevent a priest, Fr. Lawrence Murphy, from facing penalties for cases of sexual abuse of minors.
The story is false. It is unsupported by its own documentation. Indeed, it gives every indication of being part of a coordinated campaign against Pope Benedict, rather than responsible journalism.
Before addressing the false substance of the story, the following circumstances are worthy of note:
• The New York Times story had two sources. First, lawyers who currently have a civil suit pending against the Archdiocese of Milwaukee. One of the lawyers, Jeffrey Anderson, also has cases in the United States Supreme Court pending against the Holy See. He has a direct financial interest in the matter being reported.

• The second source was Archbishop Rembert Weakland, retired archbishop of Milwaukee. He is the most discredited and disgraced bishop in the United States, widely known for mishandling sexual-abuse cases during his tenure, and guilty of using $450,000 of archdiocesan funds to pay hush money to a former homosexual lover who was blackmailing him. Archbishop Weakland had responsibility for the Father Murphy case between 1977 and 1998, when Father Murphy died. He has long been embittered that his maladministration of the Archdiocese of Milwaukee earned him the disfavor of Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, long before it was revealed that he had used parishioners’ money to pay off his clandestine lover. He is prima facie not a reliable source.

• Laurie Goodstein, the author of the New York Times story, has a recent history with Archbishop Weakland. Last year, upon the release of the disgraced archbishop’s autobiography, she wrote an unusually sympathetic story that buried all the most serious allegations against him (New York Times, May 14, 2009).

• A demonstration took place in Rome on Friday, coinciding with the publication of the New York Times story. One might ask how American activists would happen to be in Rome distributing the very documents referred to that day in the New York Times. The appearance here is one of a coordinated campaign, rather than disinterested reporting.

It’s possible that bad sources could still provide the truth. But compromised sources scream out for greater scrutiny. Instead of greater scrutiny of the original story, however, news editors the world over simply parroted the New York Times piece. Which leads us the more fundamental problem: The story is not true, according to its own documentation.

The New York Times made available on its own website the supporting documentation for the story. In those documents, Cardinal Ratzinger himself does not take any of the decisions that allegedly frustrated the trial. Letters are addressed to him; responses come from his deputy. Even leaving that aside, though, the gravamen of the charge — that Cardinal Ratzinger’s office impeded some investigation — is proven utterly false.
The documents show that the canonical trial or penal process against Father Murphy was never stopped by anyone. In fact, it was only abandoned days before Father Murphy died. Cardinal Ratzinger never took a decision in the case, according to the documents. His deputy, Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, suggested, given that Father Murphy was in failing health and a canonical trial is a complicated matter, that more expeditious means be used to remove him from all ministry.

To repeat: The charge that Cardinal Ratzinger did anything wrong is unsupported by the documentation on which the story was based. He does not appear in the record as taking any decision. His office, in the person of his deputy, Archbishop Bertone, agreed that there should be full canonical trial. When it became apparent that Father Murphy was in failing health, Archbishop Bertone suggested more expeditious means of removing him from any ministry.

Furthermore, under canon law at the time, the principal responsibility for sexual-abuse cases lay with the local bishop. Archbishop Weakland had from 1977 onwards the responsibility of administering penalties to Father Murphy. He did nothing until 1996. It was at that point that Cardinal Ratzinger’s office became involved, and it subsequently did nothing to impede the local process.

The New York Times flatly got the story wrong, according to its own evidence. Readers may want to speculate on why.
 
Here is the relevant timeline, drawn from the documents the New York Times posted on its own website.

15 May 1974
Abuse by Fr. Lawrence Murphy is alleged by a former student at St. John’s School for the Deaf in Milwaukee. In fact, accusations against Father Murphy go back more than a decade.

12 September 1974
Father Murphy is granted an official “temporary sick leave” from St. John’s School for the Deaf. He leaves Milwaukee and moves to northern Wisconsin, in the Diocese of Superior, where he lives in a family home with his mother. He has no official assignment from this point until his death in 1998. He does not return to live in Milwaukee. No canonical penalties are pursued against him.

9 July 1980
Officials in the Diocese of Superior write to officials in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee about what ministry Father Murphy might undertake in Superior. Archbishop Rembert Weakland, archbishop of Milwaukee since 1977, has been consulted and says it would be unwise to have Father Murphy return to ministry with the deaf community. There is no indication that Archbishop Weakland foresees any other measures to be taken in the case.

17 July 1996
More than 20 years after the original abuse allegations, Archbishop Weakland writes to Cardinal Ratzinger, claiming that he has only just discovered that Father Murphy’s sexual abuse involved the sacrament of confession — a still more serious canonical crime. The allegations about the abuse of the sacrament of confession were in the original 1974 allegations. Weakland has been archbishop of Milwaukee by this point for 19 years.

It should be noted that for sexual-abuse charges, Archbishop Weakland could have proceeded against Father Murphy at any time. The matter of solicitation in the sacrament of confession required notifying Rome, but that too could have been done as early as the 1970s.

10 September 1996
Father Murphy is notified that a canonical trial will proceed against him. Until 2001, the local bishop had authority to proceed in such trials. The Archdiocese of Milwaukee is now beginning the trial. It is noteworthy that at this point, no reply has been received from Rome indicating that Archbishop Weakland knew he had that authority to proceed.

24 March 1997
Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, Cardinal Ratzinger’s deputy at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, advises a canonical trial against Father Murphy.

14 May 1997
Archbishop Weakland writes to Archbishop Bertone to say that the penal process against Father Murphy has been launched, and notes that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has advised him to proceed even though the statute of limitations has expired. In fact, there is no statute of limitations for solicitation in the sacrament of confession.

Throughout the rest of 1997 the preparatory phases of penal process or canonical trial is underway. On 5 January 1998 the Tribunal of the Archdiocese of Milwaukee says that an expedited trial should be concluded within a few months.

12 January 1998
Father Murphy, now less than eight months away from his death, appeals to Cardinal Ratzinger that, given his frail health, he be allowed to live out his days in peace.

6 April 1998
Archbishop Bertone, noting the frail health of Father Murphy and that there have been no new charges in almost 25 years, recommends using pastoral measures to ensure Father Murphy has no ministry, but without the full burden of a penal process. It is only a suggestion, as the local bishop retains control.

13 May 1998
The Bishop of Superior, where the process has been transferred to and where Father Murphy has lived since 1974, rejects the suggestion for pastoral measures. Formal pre-trial proceedings begin on 15 May 1998, continuing the process already begun with the notification that had been issued in September 1996.

30 May 1998
Archbishop Weakland, who is in Rome, meets with officials at the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, including Archbishop Bertone but not including Cardinal Ratzinger, to discuss the case. The penal process is ongoing. No decision taken to stop it, but given the difficulties of a trial after 25 years, other options are explored that would more quickly remove Father Murphy from ministry.

19 August 1998
Archbishop Weakland writes that he has halted the canonical trial and penal process against Father Murphy and has immediately begun the process to remove him from ministry — a quicker option.

21 August 1998
Father Murphy dies. His family defies the orders of Archbishop Weakland for a discreet funeral.
 
Once accused he was remoived from his position and spent the next 24 years living with his Mother. The Church did not allow him to carry any ministerial functions during this time time he was excused he was turned into the the police, who declined to prosecute. 24 years AFTER the fact Cardinal Ratzinger was made aware of the situation, waived the statute of limitations and started proceedings to defrock him-he died before the trial could begin.

It is teliing that the NYT did not contact the Priest in charge of prosecuting his case-instead using a handwritten transcript which the Priest claims he did not write.
I’ve just about had it with the Times. And I agree that the biggest liberal critics of the Church (Dowd et al) have a not-so hidden agenda: to force our Church to adopt the cult of progress, which they define as married clergy, women priests, abortion on demand, recognition of gay marriage and so forth.
 
Being a reporter is nothing to be proud of Thekla, they have lost all respect by me, because they reported half truths in their attempts to smear Pope Benedict and make things out to be what they are not.
 
Being a reporter is nothing to be proud of Thekla, they have lost all respect by me, because they reported half truths in their attempts to smear Pope Benedict and make things out to be what they are not.
Being a mandated “reporter” means that you are mandated, by law, to report any suspicions of abuse or neglect of children. It doesn’t have anything to do with being a news reporter. Teachers, doctors, etc., are mandated “reporters.”
 
Being a mandated “reporter” means that you are mandated, by law, to report any suspicions of abuse or neglect of children. It doesn’t have anything to do with being a news reporter. Teachers, doctors, etc., are mandated “reporters.”
Isn’t everyone mandated by law to report suspicions of abuse or neglect of children?
 
Isn’t everyone mandated by law to report suspicions of abuse or neglect of children?
Yes. Unfortunately the primary abusers of children are their parents , followed by close relatives, followed by Teachers.

HOWEVER the Church must be held to a higher standard. It has made great strides during the last few years-there has been almost no reports of abuse in the last two decades.

I dont mind stern criticism of Church Leaders. They not only covered up much of the abuse but also, at least in the United States, let a culture of homosexuality pervade our Seminaries. What I do mind is criticisms that are full of disotrtions and falsehoods-which is what the NYT piece was.
 
Being a mandated “reporter” means that you are mandated, by law, to report any suspicions of abuse or neglect of children. It doesn’t have anything to do with being a news reporter. Teachers, doctors, etc., are mandated “reporters.”
Nevertheless, the newspaper reporters who covered the assignment trying to connect Pope Benedict with negligence of duty, shall we say -are less than scum .
 
I dont mind stern criticism of Church Leaders. They not only covered up much of the abuse but also, at least in the United States, let a culture of homosexuality pervade our Seminaries. .
Why did they do that?
 
Why did they do that?
Part of it was becuase that during that time the convential wisdom was that the best way to treat abusers was through counseling so you could “cure them”. There was also a desire to “protect their own”.

When the scandal first broke out i talked to both my pastor and my Bishop. Fortunately my Bishop was one of those who never tolerated it for even a second-when he recived credible accusations he called the Police. My Pastor was concerned that, although those who abused should face the full force of the law that they should still have due process. During that time the call was for anyone even accused to be removed from service.
 
I disagree with you. In my state, for example, I am a mandated reporter. That means that if I suspect that a child is being abused or neglected I am required, by law, to report it to the authorities.

You have not seen cases of teachers sexually abusing 10, 50, 100, 200 children. And when it does occur, you certainly don’t see their administrators shielding them from the law or shuffling them to other schools where they continue to abuse children.

Don’t try and lump teachers in with these perverted pedophiles who were covered for time and time again.
You right,you don’t see this with school teachers where there are so many victims.I work for a local school district,but not as a teacher,but in the warehouse.Years ago they fired a bus driver who was supposed to have abused a child,It did not happen at work, but in i think his neighborhood,but we fired him anyway.over at the high school the journalism teacher,a guy in his thirties got invovled with a female student.Some kid or some adult was looking for him and found himkissing this girl in the dark room.Well, it got reported and he got fired.Haven’t heard of anything lately.
But if a school district can fire these people,why can’t the Church call in the cops or a private investigator to check out the allegations.If the complaint is false, then somebody needs to apolize to the priest invovled,or he needs to sue for defamation of character.If the investigation results are true, then turn him over to the cops for prosecution. If the church had done that, instead of sweeping everything under the rug, it wouldn’t have to close parishes and sell church property to settle these lawsuits.That’s what makes us so angry, is the Bishops could have put an end to the career of some of these people, but chose not to for whatever reason.
 
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