Pope's preacher: Accusations akin to anti-Semitism

[WesPilgrim]

Amen to everything you said Wes. You sound Catholic already in everything you write. What gives?

I was intermeshed in Methodism for many years (even licensed clergy for a few) and the cultural change that Catholic conversion means in a small evangelically minded community is staggering. Paint me yellow, but thanks for the encouragement. (I am coming out of the closet more and more around here too.)

 

[WesPilgrim]

What person has anything to gain from this.
Are you killing the messenger because the message is bad?

The major messengers’ MO transcends and predates this worrisome subject. In other words, we were already at war (metaphorically speaking).
As to persons gaining, I am a person of faith that feels regret and guilt when I sin. You’re asking me to explain the motives of persons who have decided there are no taboos, other than perhaps religious conviction itself. I decline to do so beyond what I’ve posited already.
I have an opinion, I’ve expressed it passionately, CA has provided a forum for it, and I’m in their debt. That said, I don’t know how I could be more clear using the customary space limits. Some of what I’m talking may have to be intuitive, or else the reader is just not inclined to see it as I do (her/his God provided freedom). If you really want to dig deeper perhaps Bernard Goldberg’s book (amazon.com/Bias-Insider-Exposes-Media-Distort/dp/0895261901) would help catch you up on what many of us see as a rather liberal and overwhelmingly secular media bias.
Let’s go have Easter.
He is Risen Indeed!

 

[chosen_people]

It now turns out that every time I remanded a pedophile to custody or sentenced one to jail I was being a self-hating Jew:shrug:

Pedophilia is not part of Catholicism. It is regarded by Catholicism (and indeed by all religions and all moral people) as a sinful immoral act. That individual Catholic priests were involved in acts of pedophilia is not something that can or should be attached to Catholics, or to the Catholic Church or to Catholic priests. These were individual acts in contradiction to the religious teachings of the Church and in contradiction to their position in the Church.

However precisely because the Church views these acts as immoral and sinful, the cover-up of these acts, whether to protect an individual priest, or to protect the Church from litigation or, ironically, to protect the good name of the Church,is what is so unacceptable and so disturbing to so many people. The decision to cover-up these acts within the Catholic Church can and should be placed at their doorstep. I have no doubt that Church officials are doing the required soul searching. However, the wrongful decision to attempt to cover-up these acts was the decision of officials within the Catholic Church, it cannot be blamed on the “Masons” or on “anti-Semitism” or the “liberal secular press”. If the Catholic Church is taking a hit on this one they have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[ethiopianheart]

What Fr. Cantalamessa Really Said

The comments of the Pope’s preacher, Father Raniero Cantalamessa, in which he quoted a Jewish friend at this evening’s Good Friday homily in St. Peter’s is causing yet further media controversy for the Church.

But as always, it helps to read such comments in context. Thanks to Robert Moynihan of Inside the Vatican for obtaining the whole homily. The relevant remarks are in bold at the end.

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Excerpt:

He said: “I am following with indignation the violent and concentric attacks against the Church, the Pope and all the faithful by the whole world. The use of stereotypes, the passing from personal responsibility and guilt to a collective guilt remind me of the more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism. Therefore I desire to express to you personally, to the Pope and to the whole Church my solidarity as Jew of dialogue and of all those that in the Jewish world (and there are many) share these sentiments of brotherhood. Our Passover and yours are undoubtedly different, but we both live with Messianic hope that surely will reunite us in the love of our common Father. I wish you and all Catholics a Good Easter.”

 

[kepha1]

"Any reasonable person will understand that the mass media have for way too long been controlled by masons and almost every major news article is slanted to produce a masonic perspective of that news while hiding the hand that, behind the scenes, is responsible for much of it. "
Henry Makow Ph.D.

So what is the logical implication here? There is still a big problem here, regardless of whether you like what is being reported or not.

The logical implication is on the slanderous attack on the Pope and the misrepresentation of Father Cantalamessa, and misleading headlines. What is being reported should be reported, it will only serve, in the end, to purify the Church, but we don’t need witch hunts to accomplish this. Makow is not saying the masons are responsible for the scandals, he is saying they are responsible for the slanted media perspective that, in my opinion, is paving the way for a new scapegoat of all ills, the Catholic Church. We need to learn from history the power of propaganda, specifically, Luther and Hitler and how they used it.
There is no pin-pointing secret societies or multi-national corporate powers for being responsible for this orchestrated attack on the Pope. Just follow the money. Who gains when the world’s moral authority is discredited? Just follow the money. You can start with the milti-trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry.

 

[kepha1]

The slander came before the ovens.

Precisely.

 

[miguel]

The major messengers’ MO transcends and predates this worrisome subject. In other words, we were already at war (metaphorically speaking). As to persons gaining, I am a person of faith that feels regret and guilt when I sin. You’re asking me to explain the motives of persons who have decided there are no taboos, other than perhaps religious conviction itself. I decline to do so beyond what I’ve posited already.

Thank you Wes and Happy Easter. What you’ve stated is obvious to anyone whose instinct for fairness hasn’t been smothered by the near constant brainwashing. The fact that this has been going on for a long time is beyond dispute. The Catholic League has been documenting it for many years. My dad received their newsletter when I was a teen in the 70s. Their website has their annual reports going back to 1994. The motive is anti-Catholicism and the undermining of the Church’s moral influence. catholicleague.org/annualreport.php

 

[Dwyer]

Fr. Cantalamessa has issued an apology in a newspaper.

I don’t really care for the way Radio Netherlands describes the facts of the story, but here’s a link:

The pope’s preacher has apologised for hurting the feelings of Jews and victims of sexual abuse in his Good Friday address.

The apology of Father Raniero Cantalamessa was published in the Sunday edition of Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.

rnw.nl/english/article/pope%E2%80%99s-preacher-apologises-comments

I haven’t seen anything in the American News Media about this apology.

The national News Media was quick to hurl criticism on the frontpages of their online news services.

Will the American news services report about the apology in a prominent place on their websites?

 

[Dale_M]

Will the American news services report about the apology in a prominent place on their websites?

CNN has it headlining its Europe page, but not its homepage, where top spot is given to Easter celebrations around the world and shows the Pope looking out on a crowd in Vatican City.

Fox News gives top spot on its homepage to border security, and you have to search for the apology story to find it.

The Washington Post gives top spot to the embassy bombings in Iraq, And you have to search for the apology story to find it.

I don’t doubt that “juicy” news gets more attention than a “boring” apology, but I think there is some recognition that maybe this controversy is a bit overblown, too.

 

[Digitonomy]

The national News Media was quick to hurl criticism on the frontpages of their online news services.

They were quick to report on the issue. I’m not aware of criticism on the front pages.

Dwyer:

Will the American news services report about the apology in a prominent place on their websites?

No. It’s not that newsworthy.

Imagine if say the president said something surprising, like “I hate Catholics.” That would be all over the news, here and abroad. Then the next day, he says “Oops, sorry.” Will that get front page, above the fold coverage? Probably not. Certainly not in foreign news sources.

 

[miguel]

"Any reasonable person will understand that the mass media have for way too long been controlled by masons and almost every major news article is slanted to produce a masonic perspective of that news while hiding the hand that, behind the scenes, is responsible for much of it. "
Henry Makow Ph.D.

Thanks kepha1. The Church has a documented history with freemasonry. There’s no doubt it opposes Catholicism. And we know it hasn’t gone away. I don’t question masonic influence just like I don’t question demonic influence. “For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.” (Eph 6:12)

But the problem that comes with attempts to p(name removed by moderator)oint their influence, as in your above quote, is the same problem with p(name removed by moderator)ointing demonic influence. The demons and the masons operate in secret.

 

[Dwyer]

Originally Posted by Dwyer

The national News Media was quick to hurl criticism on the frontpages of their online news services.

They were quick to report on the issue. I’m not aware of criticism on the front pages.

It was the top News story on Comcast.net, Google.com, Yahoo.com on Friday evening in the United States, until the following morning, when Archbishop Leveda became the top news story.

Originally Posted by Dwyer

Will the American news services report about the apology in a prominent place on their websites?

No. It’s not that newsworthy.

Imagine if say the president said something surprising, like “I hate Catholics.” That would be all over the news, here and abroad. Then the next day, he says “Oops, sorry.” Will that get front page, above the fold coverage? Probably not. Certainly not in foreign news sources.

Well, of course, you’re entitled to your opinion; I think you’re full of baloney.

Radio Netherlands reported it in a somewhat prominent place on its website; its among their More Latest News stories section; it isn’t on the RNW’s frontpage though.