Poposed Abortion Bill Would Force Rape Victims to Continue Pregnancy as "Evidence"

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BroomWagon said:
I think that’s the choice of these people in New Mexico. So I assume you live there and you want them to think like you?
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Wouldn’t either side of the issue want them to think like themselves?
 
Can someone explain to me why the baby needs to be brought to term for forensic evidence in a criminal rape trial?
 
ringil said:
inquisitr.com/494000/proposed-abortion-bill-would-force-rape-victims-to-continue-pregnancy-as-evidence/

I don’t see this as a good avenue to take in preventing abortions in the case of rape.
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From the link and the bill:
“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime,” the bill says.
Read more at inquisitr.com/494000/proposed-abortion-bill-would-force-rape-victims-to-continue-pregnancy-as-evidence/#kFHzf9xS3rmixQIF.99
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This is to keep parents from forcing young girls made pregnant by their fathers or other relatives or mom’s boyfriend to get abortions. A woman can still get her own abortion if her intent is not to destroy evidence of the crime. In most cases, the assault is being prosecuted with other evidence, probably 99% of the time. And, in fact, the remains can be tagged and analyzed as evidence even if she gets the abortion. (Terrible topic to write about, isn’t it?)

Anyway, it’s not a bill to re-victimize victims as far as I can see. Not that I would necessarily support it.
 
JMJSHJ said:
Can someone explain to me why the baby needs to be brought to term for forensic evidence in a criminal rape trial?
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It doesn’t. That representative is being ridiculously silly. I think her efforts will only harm pro-life efforts, but only time will tell.
 
Julia_Mae said:
From the link and the bill:

This is to keep parents from forcing young girls made pregnant by their fathers or other relatives or mom’s boyfriend to get abortions. A woman can still get her own abortion if her intent is not to destroy evidence of the crime. In most cases, the assault is being prosecuted with other evidence, probably 99% of the time. And, in fact, the remains can be tagged and analyzed as evidence even if she gets the abortion. (Terrible topic to write about, isn’t it?)

Anyway, it’s not a bill to re-victimize victims as far as I can see. Not that I would necessarily support it.
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She’s evidently trying to safe face:
Brown plans to submit a new bill “to make the intent of the legislation abundantly clear.”

“House Bill 206 was never intended to punish or criminalize rape victims,” Brown said in a statement emailed to ABC News. “Its intent is solely to deter rape and cases of incest. The rapist - not the victim - would be charged with tampering of evidence.”

Scott Forrester, spokesman for the Democratic Party of New Mexico, said the party “would have to look at any new legislation introduced.”

“But this is what she introduced,” Forrester said of House bill 206. “This is what New Mexicans are seeing, and they’re outraged by what Rep. Brown has introduced.”

Constituents and critics outside New Mexico took to Brown’s Facebook page to express that outrage. Many took personal digs at the Republican state lawmaker, even going so far as to comment on a recent picture of her son’s graduation, asking, “Are you teaching your son to be a rapist?”

Nine representatives co-sponsored the legislation, according to Forrester. But with a Democratic majority in both New Mexico’s House and Senate, the bill wouldn’t seem to have much chance of passing.
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news.yahoo.com/n-m-state-rep-takes-heat-abortion-bill-000548365–abc-news-politics.html
 
I’m a bit confused - can’t paternal DNA be tested with amniotic fluid? Why would an abortion be necessary in these cases?:confused:
 
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woa, now why did this person get raped? in a civilized society the women are highly regarded and respected, so in this heathen societies that rape is prevelant, the child is going to be of a lessor species, so its only wise to make sure it doesnt come to exist?

and thats the reason for abortion, we need to wipe out these lessor races that have no civilized sense to not rape their women. the cycle of these lessor class of beings need to be wiped out, and abortion it the answer…

obaman understand this, and wants abortion more so for his kind, and we need to suport him to rid ourselves of the lessor races…

(once this gets out, abortion will be halted in a few hours… some times tough love is too honest for even the ignorant. but its worth a try.

rid outselves of the lessor races, suport abortion, and really pray the french and british ramp up their programs.
 
Hmm… don’t most women choose to continue with their pregnancies anyway? I heard that only 15%-25% of raped women choose to abort. And those that do abort (terrible as it is), they could test the aborted baby’s DNA as evidence.
 
OP article and other media sources that are covering this story are not mentioning the fact that

The proposed bill applies only to coerced abortions when the victim desires to carry the baby

Babies born from rape are your friends, neighbours, people you work with, maybe even a family member. They are human beings and and should not been seen as second class in the abortion debate
 
Rence said:
It doesn’t. That representative is being ridiculously silly. I think her efforts will only harm pro-life efforts, but only time will tell.
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Another -]talking/-] laughing point for Jay Leno et al., another searing critique handed to Rachel Maddow on a silver platter…The only thing a baby is evidence of is sex. How can a baby’s presence prove that the sex was or was not consensual?

You would think that some people read the Gospel and see where Jesus said to hit people over their heads with hammers when they don’t do what He said. He made our one, main assignment really, really simple but apparently we know better…
 
seekerz said:
Another -]talking/-] laughing point for Jay Leno et al., another searing critique handed to Rachel Maddow on a silver platter…The only thing a baby is evidence of is sex. How can a baby’s presence prove that the sex was or was not consensual?

You would think that some people read the Gospel and see where Jesus said to hit people over their heads with hammers when they don’t do what He said. He made our one, main assignment really, really simple but apparently we know better…
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Maybe you should listen or watch a real news source instead of Rachel Maddow.
The proposed bill applies only to coerced abortions when the victim desires to carry the baby
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SamH said:
The proposed bill applies only to coerced abortions when the victim desires to carry the baby.
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Nonetheless, even in this limited situation, the transparent ruse of “destruction of evidence” makes the whole thing just another embarrassment to Republicans. I guess some politicians really do want to wage a “war on women”.
 
Just_Lurking said:
Nonetheless, even in this limited situation, the transparent ruse of “destruction of evidence” makes the whole thing just another embarrassment to Republicans. I guess some politicians really do want to wage a “war on women”.
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Er, the Republican Governor of New Mexico is a Hispanic woman, the 1st Hispanic Democrat woman governor of New Mexico was, um, let’s see… and one can go through the list of those Democratic Legislators and I believe women are to be barely found.

“Destruction of evidence” sounds absurd but “destruction of a human being” makes sense I suppose.
 
In other words, if there is a war on women in New Mexico, I’d look and see how many women the Democrat Hispanics elect to office… seem few and far between.

And it’s a white woman Representative who has this legislation? Is it not??

New Mexico is high in some crimes but I don’t think rape is one of them, this doesn’t seem to be that applicable in the long run. It’s not like bringing this up in states with big populations.

There almost seems to be a reflection of Machismo in the make up of the Democratic Party of New Mexico.
 
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