Portland parish protests new priest’s policies

  • Thread starter Thread starter Thomasbradley312
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Eh- such a sign implies things. Like the Publican and the Pharisee, wherein the Pharisee exclaimed how glad he was to not be like the Publican, such a sign shows an absolute lack of humility on the part of those that put it up.
 
My guess is he’s not anti-immigrant, but probably thinks the Church should be focused on religious worship and on helping the poor (they have a soup kitchen which is still going, although he’s getting a non-profit in to run it) and not on hanging banners and making political statements.

Many of the African priests are pretty conservative and into restoring reverence to the Mass and so forth, like Cardinal Sarah.

He could also have a very valid concern about the banner suggesting to the authorities that there are illegal immigrants frequenting the parish church. I’m pretty sure any actual immigrants in that community would rather not have attention being drawn to their presence.
 
Last edited:
Tis_Bearself said:
My guess is he’s not anti-immigrant, but probably thinks the Church should be focused on religious worship and on helping the poor (they have a soup kitchen which is still going, although he’s getting a non-profit in to run it) and not on hanging banners and making political statements.

Many of the African priests are pretty conservative and into restoring reverence to the Mass and so forth, like Cardinal Sarah.

He could also have a very valid concern about the banner suggesting to the authorities that there are illegal immigrants frequenting the parish church. I’m pretty sure any actual immigrants in that community would rather not have attention being drawn to their presence.
Click to expand...
Considering that vestments that ought to be disposed of by burning wound up in a dumpster, it is entirely possible that the clean-up was done by a parishioner rather than the priest and that there was some miscommunication about what (for instance) it meant to “get rid of” something. This isn’t an archdiocese in which priests don’t know how to dispose of worn or unneeded articles that have been blessed. In the end, it is impossible to say from this distance, but I would hesitate to jump to the conclusion that putting vestments in a dumpster was the priest’s instruction.

It is no secret in Portland that people who immigrated and work in violation of federal law still go to church, whether they speak Russian or Spanish or what have you. After all, many countries from which people flee are ones in which the wheels have come off of the government and the government is feared, so the attitudes can be very different about what it means to be rule-following and law-abiding people.

The non-profit stepping in to run their dining hall is Catholic Charities.
 
We need to keep this pastor in our prayers.

I’ve had two Nigerian priests in our parish. Both were simply brilliant men.
 
Thomasbradley312 said:
Parishioners of St. Francis of Assisi Parish in the Archdiocese of Portland staged a protest against their pastor during a June 30 Mass. What I want to know is why they weren’t reading the liturgical texts as prescribed to begin with. Say the black, do the red. Is it that hard to follow directions these days?

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/portland-parish-protests-new-priests-policies-23631
Click to expand...
Reading this made me want to vomit. They shouted slogans during the Consecration?!? And they say the new Pastor is ruining the parish!
 
Thomasbradley312 said:
40.png
tafan2:
I guess the damage a priest can do to a parish can be quite
Click to expand...
That’s what I’m saying. Whoever the former priest is should be disciplined or corrected for such liturgical abuse.
Click to expand...
According to the article the former priest was the subject of several lawsuits and had his priestly faculties removed at one point.

Edit: Also, the garments Fr. put in storage had rainbow borders. I think in context that’s significant.
 
Last edited:
In Washington State, they could each be arrested for disorderly conduct - one of the provisions of which is unlawfully disturbing or interrupting a religious service.

I know they need prayer - and badly - but just once I would like to jump up, cuff and stuff them.

Then I remember that I’m retired… ☹️
 
redbetta said:
Are these parishioners really from the same planet as me? I had to double-check that this wasn’t satire, because the part about singing a civil rights song to protest a black priest was just rich.
Click to expand...
I got the feeling that they are locked in a time warp, forever marching for civil rights in 1965 Selma.
 
I wonder how many of these folks actually marched for civil rights and how many only became activists after racism became taboo?
 
Yes, it implies that other churches are going to kick out the refugees.
There’s a church across the street from my work and the current slogan is something like “Where thinking people worship”. I’m sure the church doesn’t realize how offensive it sounds – since it implies that all the other churches are for stupid brain-washed people. But aren’t the church-goers smart for having found the one church in town that’s for thinking people…
 
Wow.
I’m sure there’s a non-denom feel-good church nearby for them to join.
I’m afraid had I been there I may have engaged in physicality. After Mass, of course, when it’s appropriate to engage in such matters.

Whatever. CAF is (rightly so) an echo chamber on his one.
 
Oh I agree. If this went down at mass when I was there, I have no idea what I would have done. One thing is talking about it, but right during mass? And there really is nothing to talk about, they were promoting disobedience. They literally want their parish to go against the Church. Anyone yelling should have been asked to leave and not come back until they reconcile, and certainly not have received the Eucharist after this. What they did was an abomination, blasphemy to an extent I can’t think of many worse scenarios. They also should have been asked not to return until they attend a formation or catechesis course emphasizing church teaching and obedience.

Honestly though this parish would probably do better without these people.
 
Totally agree and sisters too. The area of the altar should be for, clergy and altar severs. The eastern church has the lectors in a much better place…so reverant and dignified.
 
What a disgrace…God help us. This priest who comes from a country where Christians get martryed for the faith and he has to have these nut jobs as some of his parishioners.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top