Possession

[hawkeye]

Hello, I was talking to a young girl on the phone here on the 22nd Nov: She is an alcoholic, she is 29.
Anyway she has been in and out of re-hab and lock up’s when she was younger.
She said she never told anyone this outside the family, that she was sleeping one time and her parents rushed into the room because there was loud banging on the wall, but she slept through it, this happened several times.
She has also hurled obscenities at her father whom she loves and this is out of character, head butted her brother and told the Priest who the father told his wife to fetch to ****off

One time in re-hab she had them take down the crucifixes in her room and remove the pictures and statues.

Anyway I said to her " did you do any bad stuff when you were younger " she said she couldn’t remember.

Eventually a day later she did confess to making dolls and sticking pins into them,( age 14) one was over her and another girl and her boyfriend.

She said she stuck a pin in an effigy of a girl she hated and the next day heard that she had to be rushed to hospital.
I personally have given her Holy pictures and Holy Water and a Rosary etc; and she doesn’t seem to have an aversion to them.
The Priest did pray over her, but today I was telling her that in some cases of severe demonic possession that the priest has to fast and pray, cause Jesus said so, because that is the only way some could be removed.
Today I showed her a Rosary card and it had Fr Gabriel Amoroth on it who used to be the main Exorcist, she wouldn’t look at his name, and kept turning her eyes away.
So I do intend to bring her to a priest, well one that believes she may still be influenced with evil.
I still think she needs prayers of deliverance, because even though the evil may not be in her, they don’t leave without doing some damage, and may well be nesting in her, what do you the reader think about this ?

 

[Dorothy]

I believe you would be doing a very good thing to bring her to a priest. It would help if you would explain some of what you shared here with the priest before bringing her.

 

[po18guy]

Extreme aversion to the Sacraments and to sacramentals is one sign of possession. True possession, however, remains quite rare these days. She could be ‘oppressed’, which is a less severe and much more common type of victimization by the demonic. In any event, she has certainly opened herself up to the demonic, through her associations and actions. It is good that a priest is actively involved.

 

[joandarc2008]

This is really not something that a lay person should take an active involvement in other than taking her to a priest. Really questioning her is not something you really need to be doing either as it is not to your benefit. Priests are trained in this and really only a few - lay people are not. You are best bringing her to the priest and praying for her and other than that being a friend and leaving it at that.

Sometimes our good intentions to want to help can get us way in over our heads. Really one of two things is going to happen. She is opressed/possessed and needs help from a priest and you asking questions and being involved is only going to cause you and/or her scandal. Or she needs psychological help which she really needs to stick with the women and again you being involved and asking questions could again cause you and/or her scandal.

Just please remember the road to Hell is often paved with pride and good intentions.

 

[CatholicFireman]

***The Rite: The Making of a Modern Exorcist ***by Matt Baglio will give you good insite into possession without all the fluff of a fiction novel. It opened my eyes for sure.

Good luck with your friend. I think she really needs to see a priest so she can be properly diagnost/helped.

I will pray for you both. Pax†

 

[hawkeye]

I believe you would be doing a very good thing to bring her to a priest. It would help if you would explain some of what you shared here with the priest before bringing her.

Thank you.

**joandarc2008 **This is really not something that a lay person should take an active involvement in other than taking her to a priest.

This is only something that has recently came to light, I have no intention of doing my own full blown exorcism, but she has agreed to tell the priest her past behaviour, IE; sticking pins in dolls. ( the first priest that prayed over her wasn’t privy to this info)
I do think however that she is oppressed, possibly by demonic influence, she does keep a Rosary I gave her, around her neck. Although I have told her it’s not a fashion item it’s meant to be used.

I will take her to a priest, who might be able to determine if she is oppressed, anyway thanks for the responses.