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I am just going to have to keep my mouth shut as possible that I desire to be holy as God and righteous…Protestants do not like that and say that is the reason the demon is so strong and mighty and powerful. I do not think I can though…Jesus always says to me to pick me up, I would toss out the demon to display my power over it, and instruct you to stop desiring to be holy like me or the demon will come back with others…not have the holy spirit in me tremble in fear before it, and babble the name of Jesus on you and then toss you out saying I am in line with it…That is how my faith plays me anyway.
 
The Catholic Faith with the power of Jesus has authority over demons. Demons thrive on discrediting the Church and making a mockery, but at the end of the day, they are powerless when faced with the Catholic Church. And that’s a fact! Jesus guarantees us this in Matthew 16:18

“And so I say to you, you are “Rock”, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.”

Many, many demons have been tossed out by Catholic Priests over the centuries. And the priests who face the demons know what they are dealing with and will tell you they are not afraid of them.
 
Hi, All I can advise is to say “Help, Jesus Christ , son of the Living God!”
out LOUD as if you really mean it. Do this three times and CROSS your-
self, put your right index finger on your forehead, then to the sternum
at the bottom of your chest-center, and then move it to your left shoulder,
and across to your right shoulder and bow your head and say “Amen!”
Do the above three times daily, and TURN OFF cell phones and TV,
radio, CD-player when doing this, and God be with you!
 
MJCamp: and that is why I so badly want to face one. Your church is the longest standing.(I think) But this run around with the shrinks when a priest should be just aloud to do a simple prayer by faith unto the man. I wonder about pastors and Priests if they even spend time with the Lord in prayer and have any faith at all? Or only when faced with a advisory they think to pray, or for show and babble the Lords prayer?? The only thing I like about the protestant is the devil will be in their face maybe because the church has the holy spirit and it can not hide??? I wonder if I destroy enough Churches and have enough Christians calling me a evil spirit for he wants to be holy, maybe the Catholic church will take notice???or maybe when enough Pastors are crawling on their hands and knees before me, will they think maybe Jesus is a weak little spirit for I am starting to realize in my protestant faith I am shaking in my shoes in fear?? or bowing???OR MAYBE FOR ONCE OVERCOME…or maybe the devil is just playing with me with the catholic church and just pretending to hide so I will waste my time on a bunch of lack of faith cross welders that look to docs, does he have a demon???and knows I will be frustrated because I am so use to this demon destroying everything and I hate the faith of docs…does he have a demon doc, for my holy faith is dumb???and of course we know the name of Jesus could hurt people in a exoticism for we all know God loves to hurt people and the doc needs to be there.
 
thegreatseeker said:
Ty for your prayers everyone at least.

And for you all that think even if it is a simple thing like taking medication and you can brake the vow,** I WANT YOU ALL TO READ THE BIBLE ABOUT MAKING VOWS TO GOD. Tell me what it says???**

CASE CLOSED…unless God wants to and I have welcomed him to say so in a dream or some other way by the spirit that I listen to…There is no going back.

Personally I believe I am set this way to watch the holy spirit of the Catholic church say we have the holy ghost, and we do not know demons from sickness and really we have no way even if we are filled with the holy ghost to tell if you have one…BUT the doc knows.

BUT it would be nice to try some holy water on me, and NO that holy water in the front of the Catholic church does not work. I believe I have to be prayed over maybe with it…or like someone on here said be tricked to eat it…spirit was a little disturbed on that.

and yes I am tempted to just go back the Protestants as they have no problem seeing it…just can not come against it. I say to myself maybe if I destroy enough Churches someone might actually care to want to fight this demon instead of it leavening with pride.
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So, because you were having problems with schizophrenia, bipolar, perhaps both, having difficulties with medications. In a moment of weakness, you vowed never to take any medication for the rest of your life. This vow is supposed to be binding? To make a vow, isn’t one supposed to be at a time one is of “sound mind”?
 
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ClearWater: you still do not answer about the Pentecostal woman made silenced as she was about to do a exorcism of their own and being forced bowing to the demon as the demon likes to say and that holy ghost in her. HOw does a sickness make a person cough really bad and strip her of her voice and strangle her almost to her knees??? Truly seriqual(however you spell it) will take care of that demonic influence.

and no priest can lift a vow to God, only God himself can do that. Like saying you can do vows in marriage and well the priest just has to say it is ok to get a divorce and another can have a go in marraige. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE LORD, only your priest and your faith in man.
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Well, I know many contracts and such with the words…I…so and so…“being of sound mind”. Why do you think that clause is put in there? I think it has been put there to protect people who make these contracts, agreements, etc. when they were not well, mentally, say.

I think the very validity of a contract, perhaps even a vow, hinges on the fact that one has the capacity to make such an agreement. If one has been in the grips of some severe mental illness, or trying to recover from it, I think it’s called into question whether that individual can make a judgement like that.

I would question the validity of a vow made under said circumstances, personally.
 
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ClearWater: **you still do not answer about the Pentecostal woman made silenced as she was about to do a exorcism of their own and being forced bowing to the demon as the demon likes to say and that holy ghost in her. HOw does a sickness make a person cough really bad and strip her of her voice and strangle her almost to her knees??? Truly seriqual(however you spell it) will take care of that demonic influence.
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and no priest can lift a vow to God, only God himself can do that. Like saying you can do vows in marriage and well the priest just has to say it is ok to get a divorce and another can have a go in marraige. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE LORD, only your priest and your faith in man.
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I honestly don’t know about that. I wasn’t there, can’t really speak to that.

Okay…let’s say everything you have told me is 100% correct, that you are, indeed, possessed. Still, I know if I were in a situation like that, I’d get myself to a priest. However, that being said, I still think a priest may have a requirement that you seek psychiatric evaluation before continuing.

Why? Well, the Catholic Church, has worked with all kinds of people over the years. Some people have mental illnesses, some not. Some are really honestly and truly possessed, some not. It’s experienced all kinds of scenarios. It’s been dealing with possession and such for a couple of millenia, before a lot of these other churches even existed.

In light of all its many experiences, I think the Church has learned to develop criteria and procedures, not assume every case presented is possession, not mental illness, because that would be an incorrect assumption Wouldn’t you agree?

There are cases of people, say, with delusions (may or may not even be your situation). Now, you may say, “What’s the harm of doing an exorcism on somebody who is not really possessed, just mentally ill?” The harm could be this. If a priest says to the person for the demon to come out, it will REINFORCE the delusion! In other words, it could make that delusion, stronger! It could make matters worse.

So, I think, in its wisdom, the Church tries to determine what it´s dealing with. I don’t think this is anything personal, just something it has had to do. Other churches may not have this criteria, but I see this as a good thing, though I know it must seem like an inconvenience, and not at all necessary in your particular case.

If you could consider being patient, bearing with these inconveniences, it just might be worth you while. You have been wrestling with this for 11 years, unsuccessfully. What you have tried, up to now, has not been working.

I know you are concerned that this, too, would not work. However, you just can’t go on this way! This is no kind of life. Yes, there are risks. There’s a risk this might not work. I have to admit that. However, what if it did?

It’s your decision.
 
the thing is child you are all suppose to WALK IN THE SPIRIT AND IN THE TRUTH. You walk in the flesh and do not see the spirit. If you were in the spirit you would SIMPLY SEE THE DEMON and it would not hide. I do not believe a faith needs Doctors because Gods spirit is dumb??and you do not want to do a exorcist on someone who does not have a demon because it could reinforce as God in you is dumb. And I am only really tired of the Catholic church…I kinda just want to go back to the other churches and watch them shake in fear and feel possessed and feel the truth, instead of your church just looking at me yaaaa…right and I am a mad man. Again I can not take meds because of a vow. Did you look up the scriptures about making vows before God? Again I have no problem with this demon in the other churches and the WHOLE CHURCH WILL SAY I HAVE A DEMON, and no one will think I am crazy. Just they seem to have no authority…I think I will go back. There is this one other Pentecostal church I want to go to. The one where it all started. Sense I feel very close to the Lord, this demon should be screaming and screaming and screaming in that church. They can get me to worship the Lord protestants, and I love their worship music. Catholics I find are very quick in worship and want to be out the door something. BUT still the demon even screams during prayers… not the Catholic. BUT just because a church knows how to worship does not mean they are the truth?? Maybe the holy spirit only walks with protestants, maybe it does not and the devil knows this and sticks his face out in it??? I have no problem getting them to see I have a demon. Just need to find one that loves my idea of being holy and not only God can be holy, and will not put down my faith in seeking Gods holy spirit to be holy as him and righteous and pure. Protestants sound like little demons to me.

But to your point I was of sound mind when I made the vow…REMEMBER it is simple for God to just simply send me a dream or some way to touch me and say that vow is no longer good. The big guy knows I have been in torture for yrs…I am sure he has heart? He just knows that is not the way. AND NO I vowed when GOD HIMSELF showed me I have a demon, and I tested the spirit and it came to be true.
 
As to an entire church reassuring you it’s a demon and not mental illness, how can they all know that? They assume anyone who acts like that, whether it is mental illness or not, is possessed, right? So, a person could actually be in the middle of a psychotic episode, even, and they would just assume it’s possession, always, correct?

Just because that entire church assured you that you are possessed, to me, means nothing. I don’t think they know how to distinguish mental illness from possession.

“The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and error is error even if every everyone believes it.” Fulton John Sheen

If you want to seek treatment in these churches, and without any medication, that is your perogative. However, I don’t see where you are any better from 11 years of trying, and you might even be worse.

As to your vow, personally, I do not believe a just God would bind you to that vow, because you made it when you weren’t well, mentally. Your judgement was impaired. It’s not fair, or right, for you to hold yourself to a vow you made when you were so unwell. That’s just my own opinion though, for what it’s worth.

I have told you what I thought, given the information you have given me and my life experience. If you find it helpful, that would be wonderful. In any case, I yield to your decision. I will respect it and you.

I wish you luck, and may God bless you.

I believe I’ll close with a prayer.

Our Father, who art in heaven. Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen. :gopray:
 
ClearWater: (I yield to your decision. I will respect it and you) that is really all there is to it to a crazy person eh???their own heart and fight??? I so much want to be holy as God and righteous and pure and stand before God on earth and stare at him face to face and say I am holy as you and righteous…to be crazy with a demon, and protestants saying only God is good and he loves it that way. I have not made my mind up on protestants…BUT no catholic is holy as God and righteous either, but they do not fight me. To be a saint???I feel very close to that and you will have to trust me, I have come a long long time before the Lord by prayers and faith seeking to be holy AS God and righteous and pure. I plan to stand before God as the scriptures say the pure of heart will see God. Seen lots of stuff with this demon. This one story when I was deep in prayers seeking Gods face to be holy, I see this vodoo doll, do not ask me how I knew that??? And it goes back and forth like a person with a hypnoses watch and as my eyes are closed and I am seeking and talking with God my eyes suddenly see this doll trying to get my attention, to shake me in fear what the heck??? to start think about a demon again. This demon always wants me to think about it, and not God. Other times I have been in prayer and I get spit at, thought the spit was real it jumped me out of prayers in fear…to again think about the demon. I had this other time I was talking to the Lord in prayers I saw the whole simpson family in my head all possessed, to catch my eye and say WHAT THE HECK…to think about the demon again. I do not even watch the Simpsons. ALSO remember this demon has left me with a bi nature, THAT IS POSSESSION. I was heterosexual I swear to the most high God and all things that are holy. I also see pictures of sex always in my head, and the demon keeps me trapped on porn. I use to be clean before this demon came in. Started feeding these pictures, and I had to go on the shows to find sanity. I wonder if the shows were not around, what would I be like???
 
I can go on and on with demon stories. I was one time in prayer really deep in thoughts with God seeking his holy name and face upon me, and something hit my TV very Loud. BANG, friggen jumped me out of my seek in fear to think about the demon. I have seen some very evil faces, I am able to ignore most of it, so the demon has to get creative. So instead of his winking or smiles, he has put the odd face that scares me. I remember this one time, call it crazy if you want I woke up possessed screaming and growling and I realized somehow my CD was playing worship music. I live in a place where there is no real privacy so I quickly went to turn off the CD player, and it shut off on his own. I think God did that one to tick the demon off for me. Of course I hear people next door mumbling a bit about the worship music.
At night every now and then I get this real bad torture scream. I Call it the night the devil comes to whip his prisoner…try to be in good spirits… I hear this scream in my head, and it goes down my spinal cord and it feels like it is going to brake my back. Some times I fight it, and it is very hard to fight and I feel like am going to poop myself as the torture is so great, sometimes I think I am going to die and I have let it kill me, it never does though. I am so weak and in a coma mindset, I pull myself out of the sleep torture state of mind and I am so exhausted and I just have to sleep more, and it goes over and over and over all night long. Some times I am able to pull out and get up and go the bathroom and look at a light. I find if I stare at the light it will go away. I have tried calling on Jesus, but I think he hates me some days and the protestants faith sticks in NO ONE WILL EVER BE HOLY YOU ARE ALL A FALLEN RACE.

More stories but that is it for today. Thanks for your prayers everyone and ear.
 
You asked me why some people were almost strangled by this demon and why you are seeing these things. Some of these people you are seeing may be real. Some people you may be “seeing” probably are not.

It can actually be so realistic that you will probably have great difficulty in trying to distinguish who is real from whom is not. What could have happened is that you went to the church, and you could have imagined the person who was being strangled and kneeling. The other people could have been real, though, one example. .

One possible explanation would be that, given you have schizophrenia, that could explain ALL of what you are experiencing. I want you to just consider this possibility for one moment. What if you have not been tormented by a demon, or talking to God, that this is all a result of your illness?

Did you realize that in schizophrenia, it can cause both auditory and visual hallucinations. I think that’s why you are experiencing these things. That, alone, could explain ALL of this.

Please, consider this possibility with an open mind.

I once saw a movie, “A Beautiful Mind”, which was a story about a man who has schizophrenia. Well, in the story, he lives in another time, where the treatments at that particular time were quite primitive. Now, treatments have evolved, considerably, are much more effective. There have been advances even, I think, within the last 10 years, say.

Anyway, getting back to the movie, he “saw” people who would come in and out of his life, and he thought they were real. However, they were not. He was initially unable to distinguish who was real from who was not. In this story, he made a major breakthrough when he realized some people…the ones in his hallucination, never aged. So, he determined they were not real! In the story, he learned to live successfully with his condition by being able to deduce who was, and who wasn’t, real.

So, though you say you had tried medication, if you haven’t tried it recently, it could be, and probably is, a whole other ballgame.

Personally, I do NOT think you should get an exorcism, because I think that would actually reinforce any hallucinations and delusions, actually making them, worse.

You said the “demon” became stronger after these incidents each time. That could be because the hallucination, each time, was reinforced. If this is what I think it is, those at church, instead of telling you that you were possessed needed to be telling you, “This is NOT real!”
 
You said you had a vision with God, and it was where you vowed never to take any medication again for the rest of your life. I question if that was real. I do not believe God would be so cruel as to hold you, as a person with an illness, especially to the severity it has also been, to NOT take ANY medication!

I don’t believe God would hold you to a promise you, with all this going on, who promised something in the midst of hallucinations, would hold you to that promise.

I do NOT believe God would hold you to that vow, due to these extraordinary circumstances.

Normally yes, I would be the first to agree with you, that we should never lie, not break our word. However, this particular set of circumstances is exceptional.

Any priest, or reasonable person for that matter, if you were to tell them a scenario where a person, with severe schizophrenia, made a vow during one psychotic episode, would NOT think you should be bound by this promise for the rest of your life. That would be unfair, unreasonable.

The circumstances you were in, invalidate your vow and promise, liberating you from it. Due to your mental state, you were probably thinking, seeing, hearing, and saying all kinds of things. I don’t believe these thoughts are your fault.

And yes, I do believe this would be highly disturbing, because if one simply had a thought, it could instantly become a hallucination! I can’t even begin to imagine what that must be like. It sounds like a hellish existence.

Again, I offer you the option to get out of this hell. Yes, I realize medication almost killed you, before, but I see no other alternative. As far as I’m concerned, viewing this objectively, as imperfect as medications may be, I see no other viable alternative for you.

As to being “crazy”, I hate that word, don’t you?
 
Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Remember oh most gracious Virgin Mary that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thine intercession was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence I fly unto thee oh Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To thee I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. Oh Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions but in thy mercy hear and answer me. Amen.

Hail holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope. To thee do we cry poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then oh most gracious advocate thine eyes of mercy toward us and after this our exile show unto us the most blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Oh clement, oh loving, oh sweet Virgin Mary, pray for us oh holy Mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. Amen.

Oh Immaculate Heart of Mary, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary, please pray for this person that they would be delivered from all issues related to the demonic realm. Please pray that they would seek out a priest who can help them with any issues they may be having. Please also pray that people would come to their aid and help them in any necessities they have. Amen.

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray and do thou oh Prince of the heavenly host by the power of God cast into Hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

That said, I want to tell you that I relay think you should see a priest about what is going on. He can help you far more than I can. However, I do have some advice for you. First of all, I would recommend that you pray the Holy Rosary every day. Pray it as devoutly as you can. Second, get some blessed (and preferably exorcised) Holy Water and bless yourself and your home with it as often as you remember. Third, get a blessed Miraculous Medal and wear it. Fourth, get some blessed and exorcised Saint Benedict Medals and use them. Also, this last thing is very important. Go to Confession as soon as you can and try to go to Mass as often as you can. Do not miss Mass on the Lord’s Day or on Holy Days of Obligation unless necessary for a serious reason such as an illness. Try to stay very close to the Lord and our Blessed Mother. Also, do know that as you try to grow closer to the Lord, demonic attacks may very well increase. However, do not let that sway you away from our Lord and Blessed Mother. I know it’s a struggle. I have dealt with demonic issues myself, though not possession.
 
thegreatseeker said:
ClearWater: you still do not answer about the Pentecostal woman made silenced as she was about to do a exorcism of their own and being forced bowing to the demon as the demon likes to say and that holy ghost in her. HOw does a sickness make a person cough really bad and strip her of her voice and strangle her almost to her knees??? Truly seriqual(however you spell it) will take care of that demonic influence.

and no priest can lift a vow to God, only God himself can do that. Like saying you can do vows in marriage and well the priest just has to say it is ok to get a divorce and another can have a go in marraige. YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE LORD, only your priest and your faith in man.
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A Bishop can lift your vow and so can a priest. This is a because they have the authority of the Apostles. We know of Elohim. The women could not draw out the demon because she is not a priest
 
GLam8833 said:
Hi, All I can advise is to say “Help, Jesus Christ , son of the Living God!”
out LOUD as if you really mean it. Do this three times and CROSS your-
self, put your right index finger on your forehead, then to the sternum
at the bottom of your chest-center, and then move it to your left shoulder,
and across to your right shoulder and bow your head and say “Amen!”
Do the above three times daily, and TURN OFF cell phones and TV,
radio, CD-player when doing this, and God be with you!
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thegreatseeker said:
I am just going to have to keep my mouth shut as possible that I desire to be holy as God and righteous…Protestants do not like that and say that is the reason the demon is so strong and mighty and powerful. I do not think I can though…Jesus always says to me to pick me up, I would toss out the demon to display my power over it, and instruct you to stop desiring to be holy like me or the demon will come back with others…not have the holy spirit in me tremble in fear before it, and babble the name of Jesus on you and then toss you out saying I am in line with it…That is how my faith plays me anyway.
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It is good that you seek to be holy like God but know you will never be as holy as God.
 
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