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StudentMI
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Lol and I saw a video of Obama admitting to being born outside the United States.
Who said I’m interested in defending Biden? I’ve been clear in many posts on here my feelings about him.
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Who said I’m interested in defending Biden? I’ve been clear in many posts on here my feelings about him.
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HarryStotle
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So Believe all Obamas isn’t a directive you subscribe to? I thought the man never lies?HarryStotle:
Lol and I saw a video of Obama admitting to being born outside the United States.
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StudentMI
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Interesting you cut off the part about me not defending Biden. Now you imply I supported Obama?
farronwolf
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You do realize that each state sets its laws regarding how ballots can be cast, when ballots are counted and the entire process for the elections in their states.
Just because you didn’t get (name removed by moderator)ut on the process or you weren’t there to verify everything was as you think it should be doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with the process or results, it just means you don’t approve.
Very certain the folks in these states don’t care what you believe.
BTW what evidence have you presented? What evidence did you collect, or are you simply spouting off what someone else has stated.
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LilyM
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Well yes, before you accuse someone of something you generally have to assemble and present evidence.StudentMI:
So you want to make the call before the evidence is assembled that there is no evidence to assemble?LilyM:
Conspiracies happen, but as with similar conspiracy theories, where’s the evidence? Large enough conspiracies need notes, sometimes budgeting, communications, etc. There is no conspiracy here.
You are certain of that how?
You could have a career at Fox if you continue down that path. Mishkin 2.0.
If you try to sue someone or have them.chatged with a ctime, for example.
Or if you are publishing a claim about someone as a journalist. Unless you are merely reporting the existence of a rumour.
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HarryStotle
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I was being facetious and cut what I did to highlight the humour.HarryStotle:
Interesting you cut off the part about me not defending Biden. Now you imply I supported Obama?
But believe a conspiracy is at hand if you want.
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StudentMI
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No conspiracy. Simply that I didn’t meet your expectations.I was being facetious and cut what I did to highlight the humour.
But believe a conspiracy is at hand if you want.
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puer.dei
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Well, it hasn’t even been **one **week yet, so that’s a non-starter.
Plus, state law governs the required postmark date and required receipt dates for mailed ballots. To say that ballots received after election day, although allowed by law, is evidence of fraud is just . . . bizarre.
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HarryStotle
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Look up the term probable cause.HarryStotle:
Well yes, before you accuse someone of something you generally have to assemble and present evidence.StudentMI:
So you want to make the call before the evidence is assembled that there is no evidence to assemble?LilyM:
Conspiracies happen, but as with similar conspiracy theories, where’s the evidence? Large enough conspiracies need notes, sometimes budgeting, communications, etc. There is no conspiracy here.
You are certain of that how?
You could have a career at Fox if you continue down that path. Mishkin 2.0.
If you try to sue someone or have them.chatged with a ctime, for example.
Or if you are publishing a claim about someone as a journalist. Unless you are merely reporting the existence of a rumour.
That is quite different than a rumour. There is sufficient probable cause to reasonably pursue an investigation. Thousands of eye witness reports have been filed.
It is interesting who shows up not wanting to look into the truth.
Years of failed Russia collusion and impeachment attempts indicate someone has been out to get Trump. Time to allow him to pursue the case against his opponents. That is only fair.
The public has been very patient with his opponents time to show Trump the same patience.
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HarryStotle
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I have no expectations.HarryStotle:
No conspiracy. Simply that I didn’t meet your expectations.I was being facetious and cut what I did to highlight the humour.
But believe a conspiracy is at hand if you want.
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HarryStotle
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I believe the PA governor tried to throw out the postmark requirement. There has been credible evidence of post office managers ordering the backdating of postmarks in some jurisdictions.HarryStotle:
Well, it hasn’t even been **one **week yet, so that’s a non-starter.
Plus, state law governs the required postmark date and required receipt dates for mailed ballots. To say that ballots received after election day, although allowed by law, is evidence of fraud is just . . . bizarre.
Have you been assessing evidence fairly or merely decided to not look at any of it because it is conspiracy?
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LilyM
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And some of those laws are made for good reason. Some states mandate that any vote, postal or otherwise, that is cast or posted on election days is to be counted, even.if.thanks.to the vagaries of.the postal service it arrives late. In some places they can keep counting until.Nov 12 or 13.HarryStotle:
Well, it hasn’t even been **one **week yet, so that’s a non-starter.
Plus, state law governs the required postmark date and required receipt dates for mailed ballots. To say that ballots received after election day, although allowed by law, is evidence of fraud is just . . . bizarre.
If you want to talk conspiracies, talk about Trump, who has made.noise.for some.time.about postal.votes despite such being legal and used for ages, deciding to cut funding to the postal service making it harder for them to so their job and deliver those votes in a timely way?
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HarryStotle
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You haven’t looked into the issues with the postal service have you? Just buying what has been said about Trump and the postal service by Pelosi & Co and the unions?puer.dei:
And some of those laws are made for good reason. Some states mandate that any vote, postal or otherwise, that is cast or posted on election days is to be counted, even.if.thanks.to the vagaries of.the postal service it arrives late. In some places they can keep counting until.Nov 12 or 13.HarryStotle:
Well, it hasn’t even been **one **week yet, so that’s a non-starter.
Plus, state law governs the required postmark date and required receipt dates for mailed ballots. To say that ballots received after election day, although allowed by law, is evidence of fraud is just . . . bizarre.
If you want to talk conspiracies, talk about Trump, who has made.noise.for some.time.about postal.votes despite such being legal and used for ages, deciding to cut funding to the postal service making it harder for them to so their job and deliver those votes in a timely way?
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LilyM
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Probable cause still requires some level of evidence.LilyM:
Look up the term probable cause.HarryStotle:
Well yes, before you accuse someone of something you generally have to assemble and present evidence.StudentMI:
So you want to make the call before the evidence is assembled that there is no evidence to assemble?LilyM:
Conspiracies happen, but as with similar conspiracy theories, where’s the evidence? Large enough conspiracies need notes, sometimes budgeting, communications, etc. There is no conspiracy here.
You are certain of that how?
You could have a career at Fox if you continue down that path. Mishkin 2.0.
If you try to sue someone or have them.chatged with a ctime, for example.
Or if you are publishing a claim about someone as a journalist. Unless you are merely reporting the existence of a rumour.
That is quite different than a rumour. There is sufficient probable cause to reasonably pursue an investigation. Thousands of eye witness reports have been filed.
It is interesting who shows up not wanting to look into the truth.
Years of failed Russia collusion and impeachment attempts indicate someone has been out to get Trump. Time to allow him to pursue the case against his opponents. That is only fair.
The public has been very patient with his opponents time to show Trump the same patience.
What I have seen to.date is the equivalent in persuasiveness of - "that fella walked into that store- he could have been.walking in there to steal something,. Abd I remember another fella the other week walked in there and stile something- this one must be a thief and they must both in cahoots with eaxh other!’
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LilyM
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Funnt, because I DONT buy it, not a bit, that is the thing! Plenty of bonkers accusations coming from both sides.LilyM:
You haven’t looked into the issues with the postal service have you? Just buying what has been said about Trump and the postal service by Pelosi & Co and the unions?puer.dei:
And some of those laws are made for good reason. Some states mandate that any vote, postal or otherwise, that is cast or posted on election days is to be counted, even.if.thanks.to the vagaries of.the postal service it arrives late. In some places they can keep counting until.Nov 12 or 13.HarryStotle:
Well, it hasn’t even been **one **week yet, so that’s a non-starter.
Plus, state law governs the required postmark date and required receipt dates for mailed ballots. To say that ballots received after election day, although allowed by law, is evidence of fraud is just . . . bizarre.
If you want to talk conspiracies, talk about Trump, who has made.noise.for some.time.about postal.votes despite such being legal and used for ages, deciding to cut funding to the postal service making it harder for them to so their job and deliver those votes in a timely way?
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Annie
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Here is a convicted corrupt politician discussing the possibility of election finagling:
It is probable that the Kennedy/Nixon election (1960) was rigged.
And there have been several other elections, not necessarily for the President, that have a very strong probability of having been rigged.
One thing I liked about Trump is that he tried to get the states on board for sorting out election problems. It didn’t work, bit he did try.
Another problem is that the loser seems to be supposed to just concede when the other party has cheated him out of the position (see Nixon/Kennedy election above).
Something that some thought might be an anomaly was the extremely high voter turnout, but a chart in this article shows that most states had high turnout, and the states with the highest increases do not seem to be swing states, so maybe it was just covid or the general craziness.
Same way here, but no call needs to be broadcast because everyone knows what needs to be done and how and when to do it.
So, MarthaSo, yes, totally possible. Hopefully we will find out the truth of who won and how so that we can all move along in our lives!
It is probable that the Kennedy/Nixon election (1960) was rigged.
And there have been several other elections, not necessarily for the President, that have a very strong probability of having been rigged.
Not really. You would only have to rig a few key state elections, and there are aspects of the election process which are disorganized enough to allow that to happen, especially in this election where so many states had to really gear up their mail-in vote procedures quite quickly.
To you and all those who think because there have been few instances of legally proven rigged elections or voter fraud, the winners don’t care and the losers are not in a position to do anything about it.
One thing I liked about Trump is that he tried to get the states on board for sorting out election problems. It didn’t work, bit he did try.
Another problem is that the loser seems to be supposed to just concede when the other party has cheated him out of the position (see Nixon/Kennedy election above).
This is one possibility–usually the vast majority of people vote for candidates of the same party as the candidate they vote for as president. There is a suggestion that this is not the case in some of the swing state elections this year.
Something that some thought might be an anomaly was the extremely high voter turnout, but a chart in this article shows that most states had high turnout, and the states with the highest increases do not seem to be swing states, so maybe it was just covid or the general craziness.
It doesn’t need an actual conspiracy, just enough people in various states with a similar goal. It’s like Antifa: they put a call out and rioters show up, right?StudentMI:
YOU can guarantee that?
Can you also guarantee my defective refrigerator?
Same way here, but no call needs to be broadcast because everyone knows what needs to be done and how and when to do it.
So, MarthaSo, yes, totally possible. Hopefully we will find out the truth of who won and how so that we can all move along in our lives!
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StudentMI
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Biden won. It’s over.
farronwolf
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But, but, but, but, but. Can we have a do over? I don’t like the results. It isn’t right.
I just want to see the video footage of what is happening inside the WH right now. I can only guess there is a 3 year old temper tantrum being thrown and the other adults are thinking to themselves “thank God I only have to put up with this for 2 more months”.
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puer.dei
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Nah, he went golfing. Virginia, I think.
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MarthaSo
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I had a feeling Biden would win. As much as I would have liked Trump to win and believed accusations of fraud, I was kind of waiting for evidence.
If President Trump is working on presenting evidence of fraud and it’s taken to Supreme court (i don’t even know if that’s the court it would go to) than how much time does he have if anyone knows?
Thanks everybody.
If President Trump is working on presenting evidence of fraud and it’s taken to Supreme court (i don’t even know if that’s the court it would go to) than how much time does he have if anyone knows?
Thanks everybody.
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