Poverty orgy in america

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The Congressional Black Caucus’ head Emmanuel Cleaver said in essence that if this president with this African economic free fall was white, s/he would have been raked over the coals. Homelessness among children is now one child in thirty because the 7 billion slated for the “Hardest Hit” mortgage relief forgot to administer itself. Women are voting their pocketbooks and deriding the “war on women.” So when are Catholics going to man up? Ferguson, Missouri, is just another opportunity to divide, conquer, and garner votes and promises. What can we Catholics do to create jobs and opportunity and nullify this poverty-fostering mindset? :eek:
 
Jerurussia said:
The Congressional Black Caucus’ head Emmanuel Cleaver said in essence that if this president with this African economic free fall was white, s/he would have been raked over the coals. Homelessness among children is now one child in thirty because the 7 billion slated for the “Hardest Hit” mortgage relief forgot to administer itself. Women are voting their pocketbooks and deriding the “war on women.” So when are Catholics going to man up? Ferguson, Missouri, is just another opportunity to divide, conquer, and garner votes and promises. What can we Catholics do to create jobs and opportunity and nullify this poverty-fostering mindset? :eek:
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First of all, to do anything requires truth rather than emotional rhetoric.

Child homelessness one in 30? Source, please!

The “war on women” was ginned up in the media over the abortion issue. It never existed.

Racial tension and poverty are separate, though both serious, issues. And sadly, racial tension has only gotten worse under this POTUS. Google the knockout game. Ferguson was just another in a storm of hideous incidents.

And, finally, the Church cannot create jobs, only the society can.

ICXC NIKA.
 
I think the American people just did do something with our last election. Praying things will get better now but it will take time with things so messed up.
 
Jerurussia said:
The Congressional Black Caucus’ head Emmanuel Cleaver said in essence that if this president with this African economic free fall was white, s/he would have been raked over the coals. Homelessness among children is now one child in thirty because the 7 billion slated for the “Hardest Hit” mortgage relief forgot to administer itself. Women are voting their pocketbooks and deriding the “war on women.” So when are Catholics going to man up? Ferguson, Missouri, is just another opportunity to divide, conquer, and garner votes and promises. What can we Catholics do to create jobs and opportunity and nullify this poverty-fostering mindset? :eek:
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People who give food to those starving to death have been arrested and given citations. So the American government does not make it easy to help those in need.
 
If giving money (redistribution) were the answer to poverty, we would have none.(both money and hunger!:o)

The liberal rhetoric of not giving enough (we need more money) isn’t loving. Wouldn’t they want people who know how to efficiently care for money (invest in themselves) to be “in power”. No. Because this fight isn’t about feeding the poor or jobs.
 
Jerurussia said:
The Congressional Black Caucus’ head Emmanuel Cleaver said in essence that if this president with this African economic free fall was white, s/he would have been raked over the coals. Homelessness among children is now one child in thirty because the 7 billion slated for the “Hardest Hit” mortgage relief forgot to administer itself. Women are voting their pocketbooks and deriding the “war on women.” So when are Catholics going to man up? Ferguson, Missouri, is just another opportunity to divide, conquer, and garner votes and promises. What can we Catholics do to create jobs and opportunity and nullify this poverty-fostering mindset? :eek:
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Catholics manned up around 2000 years ago, study your history. Our government is making it increasingly difficult to both form and run charitable organizations in our Country, so if you have a bone to pick try taking it up with them and their tax mandates.
 
Tomdstone said:
People who give food to those starving to death have been arrested and given citations. So the American government does not make it easy to help those in need.
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Good point. When the only acceptable public god is Caesar, genuine charity becomes more and more restricted.
 
Tomdstone said:
People who give food to those starving to death have been arrested and given citations. So the American government does not make it easy to help those in need.
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What? Please cite your reference to this.
 
Tomdstone said:
People who give food to those starving to death have been arrested and given citations. So the American government does not make it easy to help those in need.
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Are you referring to the Ft. Lauderdale incident with the 90 year old feeding the homeless? That was not a federal law (i.e. not the “American government” as you said), but a bad city law, intended to “clean up” portions of the city slated for high-priced development by getting rid of undesirables. But bad as it is, if this law were reversed, it would only be a drop in the bucket toward alleviating homelessness. When faced with evidence that we are falling behind in our responsibilities, it is always comforting to cite someone else (like the city of Ft. Lauderdale) who is falling behind even further.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
…a bad city law, intended to “clean up” portions of the city slated for high-priced development by getting rid of undesirables. But bad as it is, if this law were reversed, it would only be a drop in the bucket toward alleviating homelessness…
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“a drop in the bucket” may not seem like much to someone with food and shelter, but each “drop” is a person who is not so fortunate. To say the numbers are so overwhelming that we might as well not even try, closes the window of opportunity for us to exercise any, even simple individual, acts of charity.

Bailing out drop by drop may take considerable effort, but ultimately, it still empties the bucket.
 
Neofight said:
“a drop in the bucket” may not seem like much to someone with food and shelter, but each “drop” is a person who is not so fortunate. To say the numbers are so overwhelming that we might as well not even try, closes the window of opportunity for us to exercise any, even simple individual, acts of charity.

Bailing out drop by drop may take considerable effort, but ultimately, it still empties the bucket.
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Yes, the drop in the bucket is very significant to the ones who are helped by it. But citing that bad law in Ft. Lauderdale is a distraction from consideration of the bigger causes of homelessness, which might be systemic and point the finger at us.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Yes, the drop in the bucket is very significant to the ones who are helped by it. But citing that bad law in Ft. Lauderdale is a distraction from consideration of the bigger causes of homelessness, which might be systemic and point the finger at us.
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Well, like someone said a few generations ago, “When I help the poor, people call me a saint; when I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.”

ICXC NIKA.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Are you referring to the Ft. Lauderdale incident with the 90 year old feeding the homeless? That was not a federal law (i.e. not the “American government” as you said), but a bad city law, intended to “clean up” portions of the city slated for high-priced development by getting rid of undesirables.
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Ft. Lauderdale is in the USA and as such all local laws are subject to review by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
 
Tomdstone said:
Ft. Lauderdale is in the USA and as such all local laws are subject to review by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
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True, but only if it agrees to hear the case (certiorari) and then only after several years working through the local, state and national court systems.

In a case like this involving the poor, possibly no-one having standing to sue would have the means for the court battle.

ICXC NIKA
 
Tomdstone said:
Ft. Lauderdale is in the USA and as such all local laws are subject to review by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
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Perhaps a relevant question might be how many food kitchens and similar feeding sites are open and operating in Fort Lauderdale without question, as opposed to what that individual was doing in that specific site. Someone attempting to set up a tent church in a public square would likely be shut down, but that wouldn’t be the same as “Fort Lauderdale against freedom of religion,” although certain quarters would spin it that way.
 
Jerurussia said:
What can we Catholics do to create jobs and opportunity and nullify this poverty-fostering mindset? :eek:
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As another poster said, Catholics don’t create jobs, however, when over 50% of Catholics vote for a president whose very policies are not conducive to job growth, we kind of reap what we sow.
 
GEddie said:
Well, like someone said a few generations ago, “When I help the poor, people call me a saint; when I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.”

ICXC NIKA.
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I thought that when I asked why they were poor, I was a Republican… :rolleyes:
 
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