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Is a power-point presentation during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (Ordinary Form, btw) ever appropriate?

I don’t think any part of the Mass should be interrupted by a power-point presentation.

Thoughts?
 
that is soooo protestant post vii insanity.

look at all the ancient liturgies of the east and west. they all basically organically develop through the ages. never were they a product of a committee or group of experts–this is akin to marxism.

i suggest you leave that church and find a byzantine parish or tridentine one. i’m fed up with novelties and the recent poor attempts to bring the seriously flawed novus ordo back to sound tradition.
 
Is a power-point presentation during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (Ordinary Form, btw) ever appropriate?
No.

Obviously, someone has accidentally mistaken the Mass for either a business workers’ sales meeting, or a public school Social Studies class. (I assume the regular pastor must be out of town?)
 
Is a power-point presentation during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (Ordinary Form, btw) ever appropriate?

I don’t think any part of the Mass should be interrupted by a power-point presentation.

Thoughts?
It depends.

Is it during the homily? After Communion but before the Blessing? What was the nature of the presentation? Who did the presenting?

Without knowing the answers to these questions, there is no way for anybody to tell you one way or the other.

Some bishops send out PP presentations as well as recorded media via DVD and CD, so that the same message comes from the bishop to** all** the faithful in his diocese. It is the modern version of having a pastoral letter read.

Bishop Doran of the Diocese of Rockford is a very orthodox man, and he sends out videos because he wants the message to come from him to his people from the pulpit. There are those who will say it can be read from a piece of paper by the priest, or printed in the bulletin. It is not as effective seeing the good bishop in his regalia, laying it on the line. There is no ambiguity and no editorial.
 
It depends.

Is it during the homily? After Communion but before the Blessing? What was the nature of the presentation? Who did the presenting?

Without knowing the answers to these questions, there is no way for anybody to tell you one way or the other.
Our diocese is in the midst of closing/clustering parishes. Sometime in July our parish is going to be giving a power-point presentation, apparently during Mass, about it…probably along the lines of who, why, statistics and long term goals. I imagine it will be the parish council chair-person giving the presentation, or maybe some sort of diocesan liaison.

I don’t think this should be done during the Mass, whether its the homily, or just before the final blessing. They need to wait until the priest exits, then do it.
 
Our diocese is in the midst of closing/clustering parishes. Sometime in July our parish is going to be giving a power-point presentation, apparently during Mass, about it…probably along the lines of who, why, statistics and long term goals. I imagine it will be the parish council chair-person giving the presentation, or maybe some sort of diocesan liaison.

I don’t think this should be done during the Mass, whether its the homily, or just before the final blessing. They need to wait until the priest exits, then do it.
They also should do it in the Parish Hall or else in a regular meeting room or classroom; not in the Church. The Church is a space that is set aside for worship; it is not an all-purpose meeting room.
 
Our diocese is in the midst of closing/clustering parishes. Sometime in July our parish is going to be giving a power-point presentation, apparently during Mass, about it…probably along the lines of who, why, statistics and long term goals. I imagine it will be the parish council chair-person giving the presentation, or maybe some sort of diocesan liaison.

I don’t think this should be done during the Mass, whether its the homily, or just before the final blessing. They need to wait until the priest exits, then do it.
1.) Not to be nasty, but it doesn’t matter what you think. It matters what GIRM thinks.
2.) People have a tendency to attempt escape during such informative sessions. You can’t blame a diocese in this instance for wanting to deliver information to the greatest number of people at once. If it is through the diocese, to whom should you complain? The Vatican. See what is said there. You have a couple weeks.
3.) Here is the pdf for GIRM.
4.) There is an allowance for the extraneous after Communion but before the Dismissal. It can be given at that time by a lay person or anybody else.
 
They also should do it in the Parish Hall or else in a regular meeting room or classroom; not in the Church. The Church is a space that is set aside for worship; it is not an all-purpose meeting room.
Not everywhere.
 
My parish is using PowerPoint at all the Masses. It was first started in 2001, when we started a Life Teen program. This was done so the teenagers could see the responses, song lyrics, Lectionary readings, prayers, Order of the Mass and others. It’s also used to help our primarily Spanish speaking/ bilingual parents to learn English. (Since LT Mass is 95-100% English spoken.) So in order to help encourage the parents to stay at the Mass, and not just drop the teens off and then leave.Those were the main reasons PowerPoint was started. It proved to be successful that now all our 10 Masses use it. (FYI: 7 Masses-Spanish, 3 Masses-English.And only one Pastor, sometimes another priest helps the our Pastor.)

So, our PowerPoint presentation is a full blown Mass, AND NOT some side show. It’s a WORSHIP AID. Sort of like a Missalette, only bigger, brighter, colorful,a few Mass theme related pictures, instructions on postures, etc.
 
I don’t have a problem with a projector taking the place of missals or handouts for presentations that must, for good reason, be done after Holy Communion but prior to the final dismissal. I do have a problem with artificial music and any visuals that distract from the Mass. There shouldn’t be a movie or slide show of an entertaining nature going on during Mass, no matter how inspiring it is supposed to be. IMHO.

What has anyone whose opinion has the force of law had to say about this?
 
Is a power-point presentation during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (Ordinary Form, btw) ever appropriate?

I don’t think any part of the Mass should be interrupted by a power-point presentation.

Thoughts?
Short videos from the Bishop or a Mission spokes-person, are ok but should really be after the final blessing before the final song.
 
Short videos from the Bishop or a Mission spokes-person, are ok but should really be after the final blessing before the final song.
I don’t believe its going to be a video of the Bishop. More than likely, it will be a lay person giving a presentation on the parish clustering/closing situation.
 
I don’t have a problem with a projector taking the place of missals or handouts for presentations that must, for good reason, be done after Holy Communion but prior to the final dismissal. I do have a problem with artificial music and any visuals that distract from the Mass. There shouldn’t be a movie or slide show of an entertaining nature going on during Mass, no matter how inspiring it is supposed to be. IMHO.

What has anyone whose opinion has the force of law had to say about this?
Hi EasterJoy,
We have the projector hidden to much of the congregation by having a sanctuary ceiling cross beam conceal the placement. You either have to be in the actual sanctuary or in the very first couple of rows of pews to see it. The placement of the screen (automated-lowered or raised) is against the wall of the sanctuary. It’s in close proximity to the large wall crucifix and tabernacle. This could lead to a good distraction. If your eyes wonder off the PowerPoint. You could easily focus on the crucifix and tabernacle for reflection.

Again let me say that the whole Mass is up on PP. The readings, the spoken responses, when to kneel, other postures, Fathers spoken parts (No we don’t say his parts with him. It’s helps to follow along better.), Order of the Mass, it helps sets the tone for Mass (Yes, that’s done before Mass. That usually is done with a PP slide with a picture and words that convey what the theme is.)
THIS IS A WORSHIP AID! Nothing more, nothing less.

On Mass distractions. Can ANYBODY guarantee a totally distraction free Mass? OF or EF? Are there not young children who cry and fidget? Does not Father do or say something that causes a distraction? Do not people walk in late for church? Or leave early? Does not the turning of pages of the missal,missalette,song books, and other books cause peolple to lose their focus? A Lector that loses his or her place? An over zealous musician, cantor,choir starts too soon? A handicapped person in a wheelchair? A person using a walking aid trying to sit down? Somebody sneezes, coughs or makes other bodily sounds? Somebody using perfume/colonge? People whispering or talking? Pepole writing checks for the collection? What people wear? Somebody having a medical emergency at Mass? Approaching sirens, ambulance personnel, walking into Mass, tending to the victim? Power surges or outages? Sound system feedback or going out? These are just a few of Mass distractions, that you might find, if people attend every Sunday and Holy days.

So, you see there are good Mass distractions. But there are not called distractions. These are enhancements, worship aids, They are meant for people to participate more fully, then just sitting like an unmovable statue.
 
My parish is using PowerPoint at all the Masses. It was first started in 2001, when we started a Life Teen program. This was done so the teenagers could see the responses, song lyrics, Lectionary readings, prayers, Order of the Mass and others. It’s also used to help our primarily Spanish speaking/ bilingual parents to learn English. (Since LT Mass is 95-100% English spoken.) So in order to help encourage the parents to stay at the Mass, and not just drop the teens off and then leave.Those were the main reasons PowerPoint was started. It proved to be successful that now all our 10 Masses use it. (FYI: 7 Masses-Spanish, 3 Masses-English.And only one Pastor, sometimes another priest helps the our Pastor.)

So, our PowerPoint presentation is a full blown Mass, AND NOT some side show. It’s a WORSHIP AID. Sort of like a Missalette, only bigger, brighter, colorful,a few Mass theme related pictures, instructions on postures, etc.
One of my local parishes does the same thing. The only thing missing is the ball bouncing across the words. (And yet the people still don’t sing.)

I avoid that parish whenever I can.
 
During a recent Mass, the “worship aid” crashed right at the moment of the consecration and we, the faithful, we left staring at a flashing Microsoft logo for 10 minutes.

Very distracting.
 
One of my local parishes does the same thing. The only thing missing is the ball bouncing across the words. (And yet the people still don’t sing.)

I avoid that parish whenever I can.
Hi Lepanto,
I hope I don’t see a bouncing ball anytime soon in my parish’s PP. Maybe, unfortunately that’s what it will take for some Catholics to finally be active in church. “Okay everybody just follow the bouncing ball.” (By the way, add most of my parish to list of non-singers.)

In case anybody might complain or ask about why we use a PP presentation at my parish. One reason, is because of the Missal. We found that people take them home, the pages either get torn or ripped out, the covers come off, they write in them. So, Father got tired of the parish wasting money. Instead the parish still buys the Missals, but if the people want one they could buy one for $1.25 each. It’s a win-win situation. The parish may break even or might make a small profit. The people can take one home.
 
On Mass distractions. Can ANYBODY guarantee a totally distraction free Mass? OF or EF? Are there not young children who cry and fidget? Does not Father do or say something that causes a distraction? Do not people walk in late for church? Or leave early? Does not the turning of pages of the missal,missalette,song books, and other books cause peolple to lose their focus? A Lector that loses his or her place? An over zealous musician, cantor,choir starts too soon? A handicapped person in a wheelchair? A person using a walking aid trying to sit down? Somebody sneezes, coughs or makes other bodily sounds? Somebody using perfume/colonge? People whispering or talking? Pepole writing checks for the collection? What people wear? Somebody having a medical emergency at Mass? Approaching sirens, ambulance personnel, walking into Mass, tending to the victim? Power surges or outages? Sound system feedback or going out? These are just a few of Mass distractions, that you might find, if people attend every Sunday and Holy days.

So, you see there are good Mass distractions. But there are not called distractions. These are enhancements, worship aids, They are meant for people to participate more fully, then just sitting like an unmovable statue.
Each of the distractions occur irregularly… but a changing powerpoint slide takes place once every few minutes.

Personally, I am very distracted by such changing images. Even if I don’t want to look at them, I can’t help but notice, out of the corner of my eye, that there are new colours or words popping up on the wall not too far from me. While I can choose to not turn around to see who just sneezed, I can’t ignore the irritating and annoying slide show because they are often placed close to the sanctuary, especially if my eyes are focussed on the action going on in the sanctuary.

Participation is a lot more than staring at powerpoint slides and singing along. I have generally found these slide shows to lessen participation than increase them for me at least.

While I’m sure whoever thought of this had good intentions, I can’t wait for the day when copyright holders will come down hard on this and demand royalties for such electronic transmission of their texts. That will solve the problem just well, without the need for Bishops or Rome to intervene.
 
While I’m sure whoever thought of this had good intentions, I can’t wait for the day when copyright holders will come down hard on this and demand royalties for such electronic transmission of their texts. That will solve the problem just well, without the need for Bishops or Rome to intervene.
In the days of overhead projectors you could buy licensed sets of overheads. I’m sure with the advent of flat screen technology the publishers are now selling licensed PowerPoint slides.

(Our PP has decided we need screens as part of a sound system upgrade which I am supervising … while I will not stop others using them or try to obstruct their installation I have told them that if it ever becomes compulsory for musicians to use them or they are used as an excuse not to buy new hymnals, I will resign from the music team. I won’t be using the screens for lyrics at any Mass for which I am responsible for the music. There is inherent dignity in a plain old-fashioned codex and most of the arguments given for screens making people sing better - heads up and all that sort of thing - do not apply to untrained singers at all, only to trained ones. I too find them very distracting, and it’s my personal opinion that they do nothing to enhance the dignity and solemnity of the Mass. I keep wondering when the football replay is going to start. If other people find they work for their parishes, OK, but I am personally quite sad that we are about to be lumbered with them.)
 
During a recent Mass, the “worship aid” crashed right at the moment of the consecration and we, the faithful, we left staring at a flashing Microsoft logo for 10 minutes.

Very distracting.
Hi blessedtoo,
Sorry to hear about the unfortunate incident. Maybe it was the Holy Spirit telling the faithful to refocus and not rely totally on technology. So, how come nobody turned it off sooner?

Yes, that was distracting. But can you guarantee a totally distraction free Mass every single Sunday or on a Holy day?
 
We use a PP during our Sunday evening service - as said before in this thread, more like a wall mounted hymnal and for the major prayers of the mass. The singing at this mass is led by our Youth Group and so some of the hymns are a wee bit unfamiliar to the old stagers - like me! I’m getting to like them more and more. Since two of my kids are members of the YG, I get to make up the PP under direction from all members of the group (phone text and email - wow I’m a silver surfer). Incedentally, I’d like to go on record as saying as the Church’s future lies with the young then I for one think it’s in pretty good hands. This morning for instance the YG got word that the local Presbyterian Church (Church of Scotland) had no music. So off they all went complete with guitars,flutes, violins and DRUMS to help out. Here, like everywhere else we only hear about the bad side of the young…
 
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