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I have not been to Mass for awhile because of transportation. Now my transportation trouble has been greatly reduced. Now if a person simply gets tired after a while of going to Mass all the time and takes “a break” for awhile 6 months or so. Are they considered “practicing”? I have not because of transportation been to Mass since Thanksgiving and yes that’s really too long. I have been to confession though. I think I will wait until Thanksgiving and really get back into it. Am I now “not practicing”?

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If a violinist takes six months off from practicing violin, are they a practicing violinist?
 
I have not been to Mass for awhile because of transportation. Now my transportation trouble has been greatly reduced. Now if a person simply gets tired after a while of going to Mass all the time and takes “a break” for awhile 6 months or so. Are they considered “practicing”? I have not because of transportation been to Mass since Thanksgiving and yes that’s really too long. I have been to confession though. I think I will wait until Thanksgiving and really get back into it. Am I now “not practicing”?

Bill
I’d say you are not a practicing catholic right now.
 
My children practice their music and sports every day. If they took a six month break, they would no longer be in the band or on the team.
 
I have not been to Mass for awhile because of transportation. Now my transportation trouble has been greatly reduced. Now if a person simply gets tired after a while of going to Mass all the time and takes “a break” for awhile 6 months or so. Are they considered “practicing”? I have not because of transportation been to Mass since Thanksgiving and yes that’s really too long. I have been to confession though. I think I will wait until Thanksgiving and really get back into it. Am I now “not practicing”?

Bill
Be aware of the consequence of a clear choice. I assume you know that missing Mass without a good reason is a grave act. Missing was not necessarily sinful when you could not get to church, but if you choose to “take a break” this is a different matter. If you miss mass without a good reason, knowingly and willingly, it is a dangerous choice. Pray about this very seriously before you take such a risk. Remember that absolution is not valid if you confess to missing mass without the intention to attend weekly in the future.

What would it be like if God got tired and took a break from us?
 
When Catholics are unable to get to Mass, it is very helpful to have an alternative form of communication with God to do. It won’t “make up for” missing Mass, and with a serious reason, this is not necessary, but *we *need it.

It sounds like even tho you had a valid reason for missing Mass, the lack of “practice” of Catholicism eroded your faith to the point where you can now contemplate missing many more Masses with no valid reason! This is very sad.

A practicing Catholic is one who practices. What is that? Prayer, fasting, almsgiving. Spiritual reading, mental prayer. Acts of Mercy (both spiritual and corporal). If someone stops doing these types of things, well, yeah, they’re non-practicing!

I hope you will reconsider your decision to wait til TG to return to Mass. Go tomorrow!
 
Just in case you think differently…

Non-practicing does NOT mean non-culpable. You will still be held responsible for your sinful acts.

Every Catholic is required to fulfill the precepts of the Church:

II. THE PRECEPTS OF THE CHURCH

2041 The precepts of the Church are set in the context of a moral life bound to and nourished by liturgical life. The obligatory character of these positive laws decreed by the pastoral authorities is meant to guarantee to the faithful the very necessary minimum in the spirit of prayer and moral effort, in the growth in love of God and neighbor:

2042 The first precept (“You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor”) requires the faithful to sanctify the day commemorating the Resurrection of the Lord as well as the principal liturgical feasts honoring the mysteries of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the saints; in the first place, by participating in the Eucharistic celebration, in which the Christian community is gathered, and by resting from those works and activities which could impede such a sanctification of these days.82

The second precept (“You shall confess your sins at least once a year”) ensures preparation for the Eucharist by the reception of the sacrament of reconciliation, which continues Baptism’s work of conversion and forgiveness.83

The third precept (“You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season”) guarantees as a minimum the reception of the Lord’s Body and Blood in connection with the Paschal feasts, the origin and center of the Christian liturgy.84

2043 The fourth precept (“You shall observe the days of fasting and abstinence established by the Church”) ensures the times of ascesis and penance which prepare us for the liturgical feasts and help us acquire mastery over our instincts and freedom of heart.85

The fifth precept (“You shall help to provide for the needs of the Church”) means that the faithful are obliged to assist with the material needs of the Church, each according to his own ability.86
 
I always thought we “practice” our faith by how much we live the Gospel.

If I miss mass once, am I still “practicing?” Twice? Twice in a month? Twice in six months? What if I miss mass repeatedly because I’m 85 and infirm? 70 and kind of infirm? 65 and getting kind of infirm?

Measuring whether someone is practicing by whether they attend x number of masses is counterproductive, particularly since the judges of who is practicing probably have their own issues/faults/failings that might detract from them themselves being considered “practicing” by others. I never thought someone practices like they practice the violin; they practice inasmuch as they practice the central themes of Christianity, ie love God, and love their neighbors as themselves.
 
I always thought we “practice” our faith by how much we live the Gospel.

If I miss mass once, am I still “practicing?” Twice? Twice in a month? Twice in six months? What if I miss mass repeatedly because I’m 85 and infirm? 70 and kind of infirm? 65 and getting kind of infirm?

Measuring whether someone is practicing by whether they attend x number of masses is counterproductive, particularly since the judges of who is practicing probably have their own issues/faults/failings that might detract from them themselves being considered “practicing” by others. I never thought someone practices like they practice the violin; they practice inasmuch as they practice the central themes of Christianity, ie love God, and love their neighbors as themselves.
Part of practicing Catholicism is going to Mass unless you have a serious reason not to.

Christ said if we love Him, we will keep His commandments. Clearly if we don’t keep His commandments, we are saying we don’t love Him, because we are putting our own wishes in front of His, Who suffered and died for us.
 
I always thought we “practice” our faith by how much we live the Gospel.

If I miss mass once, am I still “practicing?” Twice? Twice in a month? Twice in six months? What if I miss mass repeatedly because I’m 85 and infirm? 70 and kind of infirm? 65 and getting kind of infirm?

Measuring whether someone is practicing by whether they attend x number of masses is counterproductive, particularly since the judges of who is practicing probably have their own issues/faults/failings that might detract from them themselves being considered “practicing” by others. I never thought someone practices like they practice the violin; they practice inasmuch as they practice the central themes of Christianity, ie love God, and love their neighbors as themselves.
In general I agree with you. It’s a meaningless distinction when it comes to one’s faith. But, the OP asked… It is a fairly common term which I usually take to mean a person who attends services regularly as opposed to one who is a member in name only.
 
St. Francis, there are a LOT of issues with what you write. First of all, if you want to quote Jesus, great, but he never said “go to mass every Sunday.” What he did give us was the concept that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves. I see a lot more condemnation of people on this board for things like missing mass than I do for failing to love our neighbors.

Also, since when does failure to keep His commandments equal failure to love Him? Maybe I’m weak. Maybe I’m confused about my obligations. Maybe I’m 80 years old and my joints ache and I can’t make mass.

It must be tough for some posters, having to make those judgments about who is and isn’t a practicing catholic. Those ivory towers sure must be nice to live in.
 
When Catholics are unable to get to Mass, it is very helpful to have an alternative form of communication with God to do. It won’t “make up for” missing Mass, and with a serious reason, this is not necessary, but *we *need it.

It sounds like even tho you had a valid reason for missing Mass, the lack of “practice” of Catholicism eroded your faith to the point where you can now contemplate missing many more Masses with no valid reason! This is very sad.

A practicing Catholic is one who practices. What is that? Prayer, fasting, almsgiving. Spiritual reading, mental prayer. Acts of Mercy (both spiritual and corporal). If someone stops doing these types of things, well, yeah, they’re non-practicing!

I hope you will reconsider your decision to wait til TG to return to Mass. Go tomorrow!
Here’s the thing about the Sunday obligation. The buses do not run on Sunday so there is still no way from me to get to Sunday Mass 😦 I usually go on Fri at least. Maybe even Tue. and or Thur. but it’s very early in the morning. So transportation on Sun is still unavailable to me.

Bill
 
Just in case you think differently…

Non-practicing does NOT mean non-culpable. You will still be held responsible for your sinful acts.

Every Catholic is required to fulfill the precepts of the Church:

II. THE PRECEPTS OF THE CHURCH

2041 The precepts of the Church are set in the context of a moral life bound to and nourished by liturgical life. The obligatory character of these positive laws decreed by the pastoral authorities is meant to guarantee to the faithful the very necessary minimum in the spirit of prayer and moral effort, in the growth in love of God and neighbor:

2042 The first precept (“You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor”) requires the faithful to sanctify the day commemorating the Resurrection of the Lord as well as the principal liturgical feasts honoring the mysteries of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the saints; in the first place, by participating in the Eucharistic celebration, in which the Christian community is gathered, and by resting from those works and activities which could impede such a sanctification of these days.82

The second precept (“You shall confess your sins at least once a year”) ensures preparation for the Eucharist by the reception of the sacrament of reconciliation, which continues Baptism’s work of conversion and forgiveness.83

The third precept (“You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season”) guarantees as a minimum the reception of the Lord’s Body and Blood in connection with the Paschal feasts, the origin and center of the Christian liturgy.84

2043 The fourth precept (“You shall observe the days of fasting and abstinence established by the Church”) ensures the times of ascesis and penance which prepare us for the liturgical feasts and help us acquire mastery over our instincts and freedom of heart.85

The fifth precept (“You shall help to provide for the needs of the Church”) means that the faithful are obliged to assist with the material needs of the Church, each according to his own ability.86
In mentioning CCC § 2042 Resting from labor. Does that mean you can’t work on Sundays? I know we have rights when it comes to religious discrimination but some employers might not like you not being able to come to work. What’s “servile” labor? This does not apply to me, I am on disability.
 
In mentioning CCC § 2042 Resting from labor. Does that mean you can’t work on Sundays? I know we have rights when it comes to religious discrimination but some employers might not like you not being able to come to work. What’s “servile” labor? This does not apply to me, I am on disability.
Many people have to work on Sunday in our modern day society. I think it’s a matter for each person’s conscience to determine perhaps in consultation with their priest.

Servile labor means laborious chores. Cooking meals and doing dishes are necessary and acceptable on Sunday. Doing labor that could be delayed until another day would be frowned upon, as far as I understand. Perhaps someone else has a better understanding of it.
 
Here’s the thing about the Sunday obligation. The buses do not run on Sunday so there is still no way from me to get to Sunday Mass 😦 I usually go on Fri at least. Maybe even Tue. and or Thur. but it’s very early in the morning. So transportation on Sun is still unavailable to me.

Bill
When you said your transportation troubles had been greatly reduced, I assumed you meant that you were now able to get to Mass. If you still cannot get to Mass, then you can’t go, and your obligation is lifted.

Looks like i will be missing Mass for two weeks because I can’t afford to have the brakes on my car fixed and we also don’t have bus service on the weekends.

However, since you seem to have a long-standing problem, I would suggest that you call your parish and explain the situation. It may be that they will know of someone who would be able to give you a ride. I know I would be happy to give someone a ride 🙂
 
St. Francis, there are a LOT of issues with what you write. First of all, if you want to quote Jesus, great, but he never said “go to mass every Sunday.”
I just today heard a talk in which this was explained, so I will get back to you in the next couple of days with that–it was explained much better than I could do.
What he did give us was the concept that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves. I see a lot more condemnation of people on this board for things like missing mass than I do for failing to love our neighbors.
Hopefully the explanation above will cover this as well.
Also, since when does failure to keep His commandments equal failure to love Him? Maybe I’m weak. Maybe I’m confused about my obligations. Maybe I’m 80 years old and my joints ache and I can’t make mass.
Well, a Catholic should not be confused about the obligation to attend Mass, bit if there was some ignorance of this and it was not the Catholic’s fault, then his culpability in the objective sin of missing Mass would be reduced accordingly.

Anyone who is *unable *to go to Mass has the obligation lifted. Now, this happened to me at a time before I returned to the Church, bit was attending Sunday services at a little Protestant place down the road from my house. I wanted to go every Sunday, bit i had a baby with asthma who got hit hard by every respiratory thing that got near him. So I would go on one Sunday, be home with a baby just becoming sick the next week, a sick baby the following week, and a baby just recovering the third week. The fourth week I would go and the cycle would start again.

But taking care of a sick baby meant I couldn’t go, and the obligation (had I been Catholic) was therefore lifted.

An elderly person who cannot get to Mass, someone who is sick, etc, the obligation is lifted.

OTOH, I have seen people in Mass who are there with their handicapped children; I have seen 2 men bent over almost double by a back problem; people who drive 3 hours round-trip (in the Bible Belt); people in their 90s; so it’s not like every little thing should keep someone at home.
It must be tough for some posters, having to make those judgments about who is and isn’t a practicing catholic. Those ivory towers sure must be nice to live in.
What posters generally do is to explain what the Church teaches. I wouldn’t say to someone who posted on CAF, “You are not a practicing Catholic.” I would, however, gently (hopefully) challenge them about what they are doing.

If someone comes here and says, “We want to buy a boat so we can goof off on it during the summer, so we are using contraception,” yes, that person would have what the Church teaches explained to them, and they would be challenged to consider their priorities.

However, many times people ask general questions about Catholic practice, or we speak in general terms about these issues.

All this is a part of loving our neighbor, because when we see people taking a path which generally leads to an unpleasant eternity, we want to instruct them and warn them: two of the Spiritual Acts of Mercy. We must at times judge *actions, *but not people.
 
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