Prayer to Pachemama

[Adamek]

A prayer to P. appears in a booklet on the Italian bishops’ website. It is here.https://www.missioitalia.it/sinodo-sullamazzonia/

Click on the Clicca qui at the bottom of the page and click forward 9 pages.

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

Why would they pray to a decorative sculpture? Unless…

 

[Adamek]

Well, that’s just the thing. Why would they?

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

I often pray to my replica of Mrs. Potts and her son Chip from “Beauty and the Beast.” Nothing suspicious at all.

 

[Irishmom2]

Ok…I only speak English. I don’t know what it even says. And isn’t the date from April?

 

[Jerzy]

According to CatholicCulture.org, the translation is as follows:

“Pachamama of these places, drink and eat this offering at will, so that this earth may be fruitful. Pachamama, good Mother, be favorable! Be favorable! Make that the oxen walk well, and that they not become tired. Make that the seed sprout well, that nothing bad may happen to it, that the cold may not destroy it, that it produce good food. We ask this from you: give us everything. Be favorable! Be favorable!”

Story at this link: https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=43919

 

[Irishmom2]

Thanks, Jerzy!

 

[Phillip_Rolfes]

I’m no fan of Pachamama or the nonsense that went on in Rome over the past month, but it doesn’t look to me like the article/“prayer” promotes devotion to Pachamama, but simply shows a prayer of the Incan people to her. Prudent? Probably not. Unnecessary? I think so. Promoting paganism? I don’t think the article gives enough evidence to demonstrate that the Italian bishops are.

 

[melonhead]

Why are they promoting prayer & devotion to a pagan Incan idol, instead of a devotion to the BVM or Sacred Heart of Jesus?

I often pray to my replica of Mrs. Potts and her son Chip from “Beauty and the Beast.” Nothing suspicious at all.

Interesting. I often make burned offerings to Tow Mater from “Cars.”

 

[Emeraldlady]

Why are they promoting prayer & devotion to a pagan Incan idol, instead of a devotion to the BVM or Sacred Heart of Jesus?

The Incan prayers do make you think about why we are short on invoking the prayers of Our Lady for the health of the precious earth on which our nourishment and existence depend. We have taken the earth for granted and failed abysmally to recognise it as a gift of God to be blessed and honoured.

 

[Xystus]

According to CatholicCulture.org, the translation is as follows:

“Pachamama of these places, drink and eat this offering at will,…

Anybody else’s mind immediately jump to:

“You do not think Bel is a living god? Do you not see how much he eats and drinks every day?”

from the book of Daniel

 

[Genesis315]

Yikes, this is terrible.

I don’t see how this is benign. The way the layout is, it looks like a prayer that the reader is encouraged to say or at least as an example of something good. Unless the prayer is being used as an example of indigenous culture that is incompatible with Christianity, it should not be presented like that. There seems to be zero good reason to include it. It would be a grave sin against the First Commandment to pray it.

Even praying to “mother earth” as if it were some sentient being or spirit would be wrong.

It’s all so senseless.

Rom. 1:21 for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles.

 

[Taras_Bulba]

Pale chicken! That’s astounding. It looks more and more like an actual cult of p-ma.

 

[Genesis315]

We have taken the earth for granted and failed abysmally to recognise it as a gift of God to be blessed and honoured.

We used to have these things called Ember days which were all about this (Rogation days also to an extent). As the old Catholic Encyclopedia notes,the purpose of Ember days “was to thank God for the gifts of nature, to teach men to make use of them in moderation, and to assist the needy.”

Unfortunately, like so many good things, they were swept away in the spirit of “aggiornamento” after Vatican II.

As usual, the answer is found in tradition. No need for “new paths” when the old paths have what we’re looking for (cf. Jer 6:16).

 

[Adamek]

Pale chicken!

Or, baked chicken!

 

[IanM]

Vatican officials have long been aware of the Pachamama cult. In November 2014, cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture, participated in a Pachamama rite during which the main officiator and representative of the Institute of Aboriginal Cultures (ICA), Victor Acebo, presented a lengthy and plaintive speech about the pagan “spirituality” of “Mother Earth.”
Here is the footage: 2.45 onwards.

 

[Emeraldlady]

Emeraldlady:

We have taken the earth for granted and failed abysmally to recognise it as a gift of God to be blessed and honoured.

We used to have these things called Ember days which were all about this (Rogation days also to an extent). As the old Catholic Encyclopedia notes,the purpose of Ember days “was to thank God for the gifts of nature, to teach men to make use of them in moderation, and to assist the needy.”

Unfortunately, like so many good things, they were swept away in the spirit of “aggiornamento” after Vatican II.

The usual rewriting of history from anti Vatican II-ists. Ember day observance had atrophied well before Vatican II for a number of reasons. One was technological progress after the Enlightenment which was replacing the need for dependence on the astronomical patterns which had been the organic genesis of seasonal festivals. But equally was the opening up of the Southern Hemisphere to Catholicism from the early days of the 19th century.

The fixed liturgical observances of Ember days marking the coming spring/resurrection and those marking the coming summer/pentecost had no organic relationship in the Southern hemisphere where Easter comes in autumn and Pentecost in winter. Vatican II released their fixed position in the liturgical calendar to reflect that.

As usual, the answer is found in tradition. No need for “new paths” when the old paths have what we’re looking for (cf. Jer 6:16).

And no, the answer won’t be found in reinstating an atrophied observance. It will come from appreciating as the Fathers did, what is good and true and sound in the world that originated and is still alive in parts of the undeveloped world. We can refind an organic life in Ember observance through appreciating the people who alone today stil recognise the great gift of the earth and her bounty in their own observances.

 

[Mikey]

They put in the bottom of this prayer between brackets

(Prayer to the Mother Earth of the Inca peoples)

So it is not a prayer which the bishops pray.

 

[Genesis315]

But they didn’t adjust them to reflect the seasons elsewhere. Where are they observed today? As I said, they were cast aside in the spirit of “aggiornamento.” (the Bishop of Pittsburgh reinstated them in 2018, but only for clergy–not sure if they are still in place after the “Year of Repentance.”)

The Enlightenment and technical progress is also not a reason for abandonment. It is a reason for strengthening. This is the very reason we need these traditions, to oppose in Pope Francis’ words, “the technocratic paradigm.” Them standing in stark contrast to this paradigm is what makes them good.

Emulating those who turn to Pachamama will not save us. The Lord does not call us to such “new paths.” The People of God have suffered greatly for doing such things in the past:

Jer. 6:15 Were they ashamed when they committed abomination?
No, they were not at all ashamed;
they did not know how to blush.
Therefore they shall fall among those who fall;
at the time that I punish them, they shall be overthrown,”
says the Lord.

16 Thus says the Lord:
“Stand by the roads, and look,
and ask for the ancient paths,
where the good way is; and walk in it,
and find rest for your souls.
But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

 

[Cathoholic]

Thanks for posting that information @Jerzy. (Here).

People have gotta know what’s going on.

These “goings on” are very sinful.

Jerzy. I didn’t read your post before I went to the original. (Hat tip to you and to @Adamek for positing the above information too which allowed me to even go to the original monograph concerning the Amazonian Synod.)

I got this far . . .

Preghiera
pachamama di questiluoghi bevi de mangia a volunta questa offerta, affinche sia frutosa questa terra. . . .

Translation:

Prayer
pachamama of these places drink and eat this offer, so that this land may be fruitful. . . .

And thought, “This is awful!”.

That was enough for me, but thanks for exposing this (for the benefit of others to see such shenanigans being carried out here.)

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Terrible news. (Offering food and drink offerings to pachamama or for that matter, any other idol.)

Offering sacrifice to idols is bad enough.

For Catholics to participate or defend it is even worse.

To whom much is given, much will be REQUIRED.

LUKE 12:48b . . . Every one to whom much is given, of him will much be required; and of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more.