Yes absolutely that was even part of today’s sermon. Being a Christian involves a cost. In our suffering and affliction we glorify Jesus. Psalm 34:19 Many are the afflictions of the just; but out of them all will the Lord deliver them. Christ said the world will revile us for His sake but the world is not worthy to receive.
PR is having a hard time the rich man is actually in hell.
I believe yes because of Abrahams conversation previously with God reveald. God was going to judge them for their sins. Then Abraham bargains with the Lord that the righteous would be destroyed along with the wicked. God delivered Lot and his daughters then destroying in judgement Sodom and Gomorrah. Gen 19
But the place is limbo and not heaven they do not receive the full love of God because it’s a lesser place. Scripture leaves only two places as a final destination. Scripture does not answer the question. I would like to see all conceived people go to heaven. Because God is just all people will be judged for sin.we may be arguing symantics here. show me in the CCC where the Catholicism does not guarantee eternal life for infants. the teaching of limbo, is not a belief we are bound to. it is not dogma. is this what you are refering to? if you are telling me that God would send an infant to hell, then what kind of God do the Calvinist worship? it goes against all reason, and also states God is not a Just God. Peace
My goal is to take the bible as a whole. I have not studied calvinism but know what I have read in scripture aligns with its tenents. I don’t like the label but it’s the one everyone is familiar with. I have not studied specific denominatins only the bible.
Right. So we make up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions. Exactly what I said, and to which you objected.
Well, not really. It’s a parable, after all.
Original sin from Adam.
No they go hand in hand. David says we are conceived in sin. Just as you are human at conception so you are a sinner.
Original sin is the loss of sanctifying grace that was originally intended to be our natural right.
Maybe the same reason He created people He knows who will not accept Him and go to hell and be tormented for eternity.
The point was someone else by their sin caused the death baby. The baby had no freewill in that matter. It was not about his eternal destination.
Exactly Amen!
Romans 9:20-21 But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”h 21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
God’s grace and mercy is not related to who we are but to who He is.Nope. Does not sound like Calvinism at all.
Sounds like good Catholic Doctrine. We affirm God’s mercy. You don’t. You only pay it lip service and then proceed to show a blood thirsty god intent casting his creation to the furnace.
In good sound Catholic doctrine, salvation is indeed God’s choice but God chooses to save all. But the way he does it is by offering salvation not coercing them to be saved nor forcing them to be damned. Precisely because God is merciful, just and loving.
No! It’s what is lacking in us compared to Christ’s afflictions. So Christ’s finished work on the cross was not suffecient.
Not at all, jericho. Christ’s finished work on the cross paid our debt.
A parable is different from a fable.Well, not really. It’s a parable, after all.
Wow we agree on something!
What is lacking in Christ’s afflictions?