Presidential Election Poll 10-2-2012

[Aelred_Minor]

The choice is so poor that I seriously considered the “Cookie Monster” option as it’s called here, but in the end the religious liberty crisis swayed me.

Although I’m still not certain I will vote at all, since I still haven’t received any information about where to vote or any of that even though I registered a while ago. The census people couldn’t find me, so we’ll see if the election people can. Also it may not help that the county office building I sent my registration form to was destroyed by Hurricane (technically Tropical Storm by that time) Irene a while back, but I assumed it would be redirected to wherever the current address is if they are still not open.

 

[TwinboysRachel2]

It’s pretty much a no brainer…Romney. Has anyone seen the Obama 2016 movie? Heard it would really make you think of Obama’s upbringing and where this Country would be heading. But regardless, I would vote for Romney anyway because of my conscious.

 

[Robert_Bay]

MODERATOR NOTE

This is a generic poll, and is allowed

 

[Trader]

It’s pretty much a no brainer…Romney. Has anyone seen the Obama 2016 movie? Heard it would really make you think of Obama’s upbringing and where this Country would be heading. But regardless, I would vote for Romney anyway because of my conscious.

I am not really part of the grammar police, but I think you meant, “because of my conscience”

Then again, I could not vote for President Obama if I was conscious.

 

[Schmoo]

Thats too bad… since he has already ruined this country… another term with him… and all will be lost. Especially several million more babies being murdered.

President Obama of course.

 

[Kenny_Kamel]

Virgil Goode, 100% solid pro-life record among many other positive qualities.

I vote in Illinois which Obama will win so I think it is right and just to vote my concience instead of wasting a vote on the less unhealthy choice of Mutt Romney (although I do hope Romney is elected President).

 

[TwinboysRachel2]

Trader…LOL…sorry about the spelling. LOL…it was funny though.

 

[bzkoss236]

I voted Cookie Monster because I assume his running mate will be Big Bird, and if Romney wins, BB will need the work.

Actually, considering that the government isn’t PBS’s primary money-giver, and since only a fraction of PBS funding goes to the makers of Sesame Street (their shows are available on other non-public stations as well), plus all of their merch., I’m sure Big Bird will not go hungry, even if PBS funding is cut.

 

[Christmastwin]

You must not be from Chicago, where the slogan is, “Vote Early, Vote Often!”

that’s hilarious

 

[utah_rose]

Just wondering…

I’m voting for Romney but wish I had more of a choice. He’s flip flopping with the abortion thing again. First he was against abortion, now he’s for it if its for the mother’s health or as a result of rape or incest. But I voted already, but would definitely not vote for Obama, However, I could have not voted at all for anyone since I live in Utah, and this state will go for Romney. I do think all of the states though could have “non of the above” like Nevada, but then again if that happened chaos could rein.

Here’s something to consider that I read on Fox Business online. If for some reason, both of these candidates are tied in the electoral college, here’s what COULD happen. It would go to Congress and they would only need 26 votes to vote for the president. But, for the vice-president it would go to the Senate which is predominately Democratic and they could elect Biden!

 

[Tampa_Dave]

I’m voting for Romney but wish I had more of a choice. He’s flip flopping with the abortion thing again. First he was against abortion, now he’s for it if its for the mother’s health or as a result of rape or incest. But I voted already, but would definitely not vote for Obama, However, I could have not voted at all for anyone since I live in Utah, and this state will go for Romney. I do think all of the states though could have “non of the above” like Nevada, but then again if that happened chaos could rein.

Here’s something to consider that I read on Fox Business online. If for some reason, both of these candidates are tied in the electoral college, here’s what COULD happen. It would go to Congress and they would only need 26 votes to vote for the president. But, for the vice-president it would go to the Senate which is predominately Democratic and they could elect Biden!

Romney and Biden! Argh! That would be worse than Kennedy and Johnson. Joe would be forever exiled to the Vice-President’s residence on the grounds of the United States Naval Observatory (USNO).

 

[katcecelia]

My vote is for Cookie Monster because we at least know he’s honest and what motivates him… we just have to be sure the good guys have more cookies.
Also, would the senate have to decide between the current vp nominees? or could they sub another choice? I would think that they would go for Ryan just to get Biden to retire his smile

 

[tskrobacz]

Thats too bad… since he has already ruined this country… another term with him… and all will be lost. Especially several million more babies being murdered.

That’s a little dramatic - how has he ruined this country? He actually saved it from the brink of a great depression from the Bush years. While Obama may favor legalized abortion, it is always and only the mothers that choose to actually abort - of course you know that. Romney claims to be “pro-life” when in fact he is pro-birth and not in favor of the social programs necessary to sustain the child’s life after birth. In effect, he is pro-orphans.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Faith voters onboard for Mitt Romney

In the most organized barrage made by so-called faith voters in a decade, evangelicals and Catholics are walking precincts, registering neighbors to vote and wedging Christian voter guides under windshield wipers in hopes of making President Barack Obama a one-term president.

The galvanization is rooted in anger at Obama’s support of gay marriage, his repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and the administration’s requirement that religious-affiliated institutions provide free contraception to employees.

But what this committed group of foot soldiers is hoping resonates among those who are not as swayed by faith as they are is, as they say: the immorality of an economic downturn.

“The economy is a huge all-inclusive moral issue,” said Kendal Unruh, a Castle Rock self-described values voter, who has been to the past seven Republican National Conventions and regularly walks precincts and makes calls to undecided voters. “If you have literally taken away the ability for family to function, you have destroyed this nation. That is a very practical way to look at it.”

Eight years ago, the evangelical voting bloc was largely credited for pushing then-President George W. Bush to a narrow victory over then-Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry.

In recent years, the bloc has ranged from 25 percent to 30 percent of voters nationwide.
But in 2008, they weren’t as mobilized, a point they concede. They were just out of eight years of Bush, when GOP enthusiasm nationwide was ebbing, the nation’s debt was at $4.8 trillion, and they weren’t fire-in-the-belly thrilled about then-GOP hopeful Sen. John McCain. There weren’t big dollars for grassroots organization.

But now, Catholics and evangelicals say the past four years have “awakened a sleeping giant” among their ranks.

“Catholics are not giving fellow Catholics a free pass like they did four years ago,” said Tim Leonard, an Evergreen businessman and a parishioner at the Holy Ghost Church in Denver. “Before, it was just a vote and not a big deal.”

 

[Semper_Zelare]

I voted for Cookie Monster, because I’m voting for Virgil Goode.

As someone living in California put it, their vote doesn’t matter, thus they’re voting for Gary Johnson. Similarly, my vote doesn’t matter in Alabama. Thus, I’m voting for Virgil Goode.

I want Romney to win on election night, but my conscience prevents me from voting for Mitt Romney. Still, this is my first election, and I have spent too much time studying politics… both U.S. politics and politics in many other countries (U.K., Germany, Japan, France, Russia, Israel, Georgia, etc), to not vote.

If I lived in Ohio or Virginia, then I would vote for Romney, but I would still consider it a violation of my conscience.

The Republican party really messed up. I’m really disappointed that we didn’t nominate Gingrich, Santorum, or Ron Paul.

 

[CaptFun]

I’m still at disbelief when I hear women on the call in stations defending abortion as their right! How must God look at such women knowing He is the creator of all life and having them spit in his face with the arrogance and pride to tell God what they want and will do. By voting for Obama them are in actuality insulting God by supporting a “person” who supports such atrocities! VOTE ROMNEY!!!

What is more stunning than hearing “women on the call in stations defending abortion” where they can be anonymous - is hearing someone you know, who otherwise seems quite honorable and moral suddenly spew some abortion cliche as if she (or HE?!) has reminded all present of some socially necessary immutable truth.

Following Based on Actual People I’ve Known That Surprised Me - in a BAD Way

When that person is a mother, who has baptized her child(ren), seems to love (them) and “believes in God”, and says it – you wonder what she can be thinking. Probably just *FEELING *(at the time) is probably IT. Feeling “choice-ish” while thinking of maybe:

– someone she knows or likes that had an abortion
– (and she doesn’t wanna “judge”)
– or thinks that … that girl was" too young to be a mother,"
– or needed to attend to her “studies”
– or that the situation was an exception (justifying the slaughter) …

SO (while having an abortion HERSELF****** would be unthinkable, gross, irresponsible, horribly evil), and a reviling thought for anyone to even think about – she plays teacher and publicly signals that in her classroom “Choice” is more important than “Life” when you HAVE a choice - and it’s not YOUR life - and what’s wrong with women having power?

*(Class should END with a close-up of a well known angel adding:

"I’m Satan, destroyer, prince of lies and accuser of mankind – and I approve this message!"*)

Almost as stunning is the person who “is pro-life” but VOTES the opposite way because somehow:

– the pro-abort party’s candidates “care more” for the poor (somehow again!)

– or women or minorities or “the children” (?!).

When quizzed on why people callous enough to (censored) should be trusted with power or believed to be sincere on much lesser matters - they rarely have an answer, but seem to have an even firmer resolve to keep voting for the same candidate(s).

Sudden thought …may-be I’m not the guy who should be asking those questions --given the results are inverse of what I was hoping for *.

• (People welcoming babies as gifts from God - or at a minimum NOT killing them for the least reason and empowering those who DO).

 

[Aelred_Minor]

I’m surprised to see multiple people taking the position that their vote doesn’t matter in states that aren’t swing states or that they hope one candidate wins but are voting for another.

It is almost impossible that a single vote will decide the election, even in swing states. Even if you voted in Florida in 2000, your individual vote did not make a difference in this way. However, most of us still know we ought to vote because we know that if everyone, or everyone with our political values, does not vote it will be a disaster. We vote because it is what we believe the majority of people in the country should do.

I think the same more or less applies to who we vote for. We should vote, on the whole, the way we hope other people will vote. Now we might wish that the whole country would vote for our favorite third-party candidate, and I certainly would not deny anyone’s right to vote for a third party candidate. Indeed, one of the few political distinctives of New York that I am proud of is that we allow third parties to endorse major-party candidates, thus helping them get on the ballots and voter registration forms and in the long run helping third parties remain relevant in our state.

But in the end, even with an admirable check on it like we have in New York, in a winner-takes-all election process third parties are never going to be significant (unless one of the major parties crashes and burns allowing another to take its place, or unless there’s a sudden and profound realignment as happened in 1860). Ultimately we all know a third party candidate will not be winning any electoral votes this year, much less the White House.

It therefore seems to me that a good argument can be made for voting for the major-party candidate who you hope will win, or who you least dread winning. If you would rather Mr. X win rather than Mr. Y, presumably you hope more people will vote for Mr. X than for Mr. Y. If you want millions of people to vote for Mr. X, then it seems to me you should vote for him yourself.

Finally, there is still another sense in which each vote really counts, though only by minute increments: the popular vote. This is legally meaningless on the national level, but it still has an impact on whether the president and his supporters see themselves as having a “mandate” from the people, or how strong a mandate. Local voting patterns also have practical impacts on congressional redistricting down the road.

Personally, I would only refrain from voting for one of the major party candidates if I honestly could not decide which I hoped would win the election, or if I believed the election process to be corrupt and wished to boycott it for that reason.

 

[scipio337]

That’s a little dramatic - how has he ruined this country? He actually saved it from the brink of a great depression from the Bush years. While Obama may favor legalized abortion, it is always and only the mothers that choose to actually abort - of course you know that. Romney claims to be “pro-life” when in fact he is pro-birth and not in favor of the social programs necessary to sustain the child’s life after birth. In effect, he is pro-orphans.

What specific program did Obama “save the country from the brink of a great depression” with?

The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (net cost, $787 Billion for 3 million jobs, or $250k EACH)?

Our “rescue” of GM? They’re headed for bankruptcy (again).

forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

Right the taxpayer owns 500,000,000 shares of GM, or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/share for these to break even on the bailout.

Guess what it’s trading at today? If GM does file Bankruptcy again, do you think the Federal funds owed will be renegotiated?

Do any of you Obama supporters have anything factual to back up these ephemeral fantasy claims?

If you do, PLEASE POST SOMETHING!!! I get so sick of “Obama saved X. Romney kicks puppies” type of rhetoric, with no basis in fact (or reality).

 

[Schmoo]

Less jobs… more unemployemnt. More ppl on food stamps and disablility than have gotten jobs since he took office. Higher gas prices… trying to kill coal jobs… obamacare… no keystone pipeline… the list is goes on.

That’s a little dramatic - how has he ruined this country? He actually saved it from the brink of a great depression from the Bush years. While Obama may favor legalized abortion, it is always and only the mothers that choose to actually abort - of course you know that. Romney claims to be “pro-life” when in fact he is pro-birth and not in favor of the social programs necessary to sustain the child’s life after birth. In effect, he is pro-orphans.

 

[Pug]

Working thru those numbers. In the national poll Mitt leads Barak by 4 points. But regionally Barak leads Mitt everywhere but “the south”.

Pondering how that works…

That is why these “Leading by 4 points” frustrate me. Since we vote by electoral college, why are they not showing us which states each will clearly take?

I’m more interested in how they are doing in my own state, not nationally.