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Tampa_Dave
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white_sheep
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Wow. I can’t believe 90+% would say their conscience tells them to vote for a pro-abortion pro-embryonic stem cell research politician on a Catholic forum.
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Vangaurdian
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Astute observation.
Catholic Romney/Obama/Stein supporters are indeed an enigma…
How can they support candidates that are so clearly anti-life?
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iloveangels
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Reform to prevent the massive amount of voter fraud that happened in 2008 from happening again.
There have been voter ID laws passed in many states, which is a good thing. You need voter ID to go to the doctor, get on a plane, register for a library card, and almost everything else people do in modern life. Asking for an ID to vote should be required.
And I personally think they’d also ought to mark your right thumb with a big dab of permanent ink like they do in other countries too. That definitively prevents the same set of hands from voting twice.
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austenbosten
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So freeing the slaves in the Civil War…that was an unjust war?
Joining Pope John Paul II in fighting Communism during the Cold War was wrong?.
You think joining in with the UN to stop Communist aggression in the Korean War was unjust?
You think the joint Coalition of liberating Kuwait from the invading Iraqis was unjust?
as for WWII, blame Roosevelt for WWII…cause obviously the Dutch, Chinese, Australian, New Zealand and British provoked the Japanese…not the Japanese looking to expand their empire.
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SuperLuigi
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In a lot of cases (I’m not just talking about on here), it’s not the conscience but the pocketbook or being popular feeling that does it.
People just won’t come out and say it, because I think somewhere down the line they know it’s wrong or just not fluid, which leads to some pretty rich rationalizations.
Something to keep in mind about Numero 8 on The Commandments at the next Confession, which would hopefully be sooner rather than later.
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Semper_Zelare
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I voted for Virgil Goode. I’m voting for him on November 6th. I think the 2 party system needs to go in America. And there’s an interesting line on the Wikipedia page on Catholicism in the United States: “There has never been a Catholic religious party in the United States, either local, state or national, similar to Christian Democratic parties in Europe and Latin America”.
The vast majority of democracies have far more than 2 parties. And many of them have blatantly Christian and even Catholic parties (or at one time did but have since merged).
Just FYI, in case y’all weren’t aware of that fact.
So, I would hope that every single faithful Catholic on these forums believes that the Crusades were justified wars. Because that’s what the Church teaches.
Any other belief about the Crusades is contrary to Church teaching. Papal Purple!!! :knight2:
The vast majority of democracies have far more than 2 parties. And many of them have blatantly Christian and even Catholic parties (or at one time did but have since merged).
Just FYI, in case y’all weren’t aware of that fact.
The Crusades happened in the past 2,000 years didn’t they? The Crusades were all justified under the Jus Ad Bellum [Just War Theory], and were sanctioned by the Church as a means of self-defense. Moslem invaders had already conquered a full Two Thirds of all Christendom (66% of Christian lands were at one time Moslem).
So, I would hope that every single faithful Catholic on these forums believes that the Crusades were justified wars. Because that’s what the Church teaches.
Any other belief about the Crusades is contrary to Church teaching. Papal Purple!!! :knight2:
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Faithdancer
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Amen. Virgil Goode best represents Catholic values. Good Catholics would readily see that if they would read the Constitution Party platform: constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php
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austenbosten
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If Obama wasn’t in office and the Constitutional Party actually had a chance the I would vote for Virgil Goode.
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Vangaurdian
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Since this poll was explicitly:
• not the election
• a conscience vote
• anonymous
Did you vote for Goode?
Or do some truly have a clear disability with overcoming the “third party can’t win” conditioning that they cannot even vote their conscience in a completely anonymous and irrelevant poll?
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• not the election
• a conscience vote
• anonymous
Did you vote for Goode?
Or do some truly have a clear disability with overcoming the “third party can’t win” conditioning that they cannot even vote their conscience in a completely anonymous and irrelevant poll?
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Faithdancer
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Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio and Florida- that’s what it all comes down to.
One nice thing about being in California, I’m completely free to vote my conscience since a vote for Romney here is irrelevant.
One nice thing about being in California, I’m completely free to vote my conscience since a vote for Romney here is irrelevant.
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Faithdancer
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Sad indeed.Since this poll was explicitly:
• not the election
• a conscience vote
• anonymous
Did you vote for Goode?
Or do some truly have a clear disability with overcoming the “third party can’t win” conditioning that they cannot even vote their conscience in a completely anonymous and irrelevant poll?
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austenbosten
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I vote with my conscience and my conscience says vote Romney, because Obama’s Socialist policies, abysmal foreign policy, persecution of the Church and overwhelming support for abortion has to go.Since this poll was explicitly:
• not the election
• a conscience vote
• anonymous
Did you vote for Goode?
Or do some truly have a clear disability with overcoming the “third party can’t win” conditioning that they cannot even vote their conscience in a completely anonymous and irrelevant poll?
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Faithdancer
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Understandable, austenbob- you’re in a state where Romney still has a fighting chance.
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ishii
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My conscience tells me to vote for Romney - because its the right thing to do.Since this poll was explicitly:
• not the election
• a conscience vote
• anonymous
Did you vote for Goode?
Or do some truly have a clear disability with overcoming the “third party can’t win” conditioning that they cannot even vote their conscience in a completely anonymous and irrelevant poll?
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1)Obama supports partial birth abortion (infanticide).
2)Romney supports the overturning of Roe V Wade, picked pro-life Catholic Paul Ryan as running mate, and will have Robert Bork advising him on supreme court justice picks.
Those facts are why my conscience tells me to support Romney.
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Vangaurdian
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Other facts…
Romney has never legislated a pro life measure - ever (The governor’s signature is a final step of legislation).
Romney did sign tax payer funded abortion into law, two years after his so-called “Pro-Life conversion”. Shows how much we can actually trust him. He even still brags about it!
Paul Ryan, if VP, would be rendered completely ineffectual towards any pro life legislation.
Romney has never legislated a pro life measure - ever (The governor’s signature is a final step of legislation).
Romney did sign tax payer funded abortion into law, two years after his so-called “Pro-Life conversion”. Shows how much we can actually trust him. He even still brags about it!
Paul Ryan, if VP, would be rendered completely ineffectual towards any pro life legislation.
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white_sheep
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Public opinion doesn’t affect my decisions, if it did, I wouldn’t be Catholic in the first place.Since this poll was explicitly:
• not the election
• a conscience vote
• anonymous
Did you vote for Goode?
Or do some truly have a clear disability with overcoming the “third party can’t win” conditioning that they cannot even vote their conscience in a completely anonymous and irrelevant poll?
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The New Rasmussen Registration numbers are out
The good news is that after a very bad August Democrat party affiliation has not only improved but is at its highest rating of the year at 34.2% of the voting pubic. That is the best figure for Democrats since November of 2011 which was the last time they lead in the party affiliation numbers
The bad news for our friends on the left is that even through the GOP has dropped from its all time high of 37.6% last month, the 36.8% figure is still higher than any other figure since December of 2010. Additionally the September figure is a full 3.7% over September of 2010 and the same figure in 2010 month in 3.4% over September of 2008
Meanwhile even the modest increase democrats puts them a full 7.2 points behind election day 2008 but a half a point behind election day 2010 the worst drubbing the party has taken since Reagan’s re-election in 1984 or the Gingrich revolution of 1994
Put simply for all the grand pronouncements of the MSM over the last few weeks, for all the crowing of polls and the declarations that Mitt Romney is in bad shape with two months to go till election day party affiliation in the united states continues to be majority GOP and by a 2.6% margin.
What does that mean to national polling? That means if this poll is anywhere near accurate (and as I’ve already shown in trends it has matched the election right along since 2004, Democrats in General and Barack Obama in particular are in not only in serious trouble, but if the gap between the GOP and Democrat match they best gains of the year for the next two months till election day they will STILL be behind the GOP
BTW if you won’t believe Rasmussen will you believe the liberal Guardian Newspaper
A Guardian survey of six of the most crucial swing states upon which the outcome of the presidential ballot is likely to depend has found that new voter registrations recorded between January and August this year are markedly down compared with the same period in 2008. The drop is particularly pronounced in several states for the Democrats – a likely indication that Barack Obama’s re-election team has been unable to match the exceptional levels of voter excitement generated by his candidacy four years ago.
The six states included in the Guardian survey – Colorado, Iowa, Florida, Nevada, Ohio and Virginia – are all being bitterly fought over by Obama and his challenger Mitt Romney. Backed by their respective Democratic and Republican parties, both candidates have sought to maximise turnout by running registration drives in an attempt to attract new voters to their cause.
and there is good news and bad news for our friends on the left:
The good news is that after a very bad August Democrat party affiliation has not only improved but is at its highest rating of the year at 34.2% of the voting pubic. That is the best figure for Democrats since November of 2011 which was the last time they lead in the party affiliation numbers
The bad news for our friends on the left is that even through the GOP has dropped from its all time high of 37.6% last month, the 36.8% figure is still higher than any other figure since December of 2010. Additionally the September figure is a full 3.7% over September of 2010 and the same figure in 2010 month in 3.4% over September of 2008
Meanwhile even the modest increase democrats puts them a full 7.2 points behind election day 2008 but a half a point behind election day 2010 the worst drubbing the party has taken since Reagan’s re-election in 1984 or the Gingrich revolution of 1994
Put simply for all the grand pronouncements of the MSM over the last few weeks, for all the crowing of polls and the declarations that Mitt Romney is in bad shape with two months to go till election day party affiliation in the united states continues to be majority GOP and by a 2.6% margin.
What does that mean to national polling? That means if this poll is anywhere near accurate (and as I’ve already shown in trends it has matched the election right along since 2004, Democrats in General and Barack Obama in particular are in not only in serious trouble, but if the gap between the GOP and Democrat match they best gains of the year for the next two months till election day they will STILL be behind the GOP
BTW if you won’t believe Rasmussen will you believe the liberal Guardian Newspaper
A Guardian survey of six of the most crucial swing states upon which the outcome of the presidential ballot is likely to depend has found that new voter registrations recorded between January and August this year are markedly down compared with the same period in 2008. The drop is particularly pronounced in several states for the Democrats – a likely indication that Barack Obama’s re-election team has been unable to match the exceptional levels of voter excitement generated by his candidacy four years ago.
The six states included in the Guardian survey – Colorado, Iowa, Florida, Nevada, Ohio and Virginia – are all being bitterly fought over by Obama and his challenger Mitt Romney. Backed by their respective Democratic and Republican parties, both candidates have sought to maximise turnout by running registration drives in an attempt to attract new voters to their cause.
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