Presidential Election Poll 10-2-2012

[smndtupidisaftr]

I guess you can’t vote for anybody then.

I’m fine with giving no man such tremendous power as the presidency of the United States.

 

[sneakers]

The immediate problem is defeating Obama. Mitt Romney is our best chance for that. Casting a vote for anybody else is a vote for Obama. My conscience tells me that a man who would vote four times, as Obama did while a Senator, to allow children born alive after a failed abortion, to die, is evil.

Romney is not perfect - all of them are far from perfect - but Romney is our best chance for getting our country back on an even footing, economy-wise, and getting us back to Constitutional and Judeo-Christian principles on which this country is based.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

The immediate problem is defeating Obama. Mitt Romney is our best chance for that. Casting a vote for anybody else is a vote for Obama. My conscience tells me that a man who would vote four times, as Obama did while a Senator, to allow children born alive after a failed abortion, to die, is evil.

Romney is not perfect - all of them are far from perfect - but Romney is our best chance for getting our country back on an even footing, economy-wise, and getting us back to Constitutional and Judeo-Christian principles on which this country is based.

It really is as simple as that. Nicely stated, sir.

 

[ishii]

1. The Ayatollah has said that the possession of nuclear weapons is a grave sin.

And Mitt Romney has said that he wants Roe V Wade to be overturned. Yet you question Romney’s sincerity and take at face value the words of the Ayatollah? That says it all.

1. Iran does not even have a nuclear weapon.

Not yet. Hopefully we can keep the country whose leader said he wants to “wipe Israel off the map” from getting nuclear weapon.

1. If North Korea is not stupid enough to use a nuclear weapon, what makes you think Iran is?

I don’t know… how many suicide terrorist attacks are perpetrated by North Koreans? How many are perpetrated by radical Islamists? How many radical Islamists live in Iran? There is your answer.

And besides, the fact that the government of Iran wants a nuclear weapon, whether or not that is true, does not justify the attack of the innocents in that country.

Not a direct attack that targets innocents. But I believe Israel would be justified in attacking Iran’s ability to complete a nuclear weapon - would be good to prevent another Jewish holocaust, don’t you think?

Ishii

 

[ishii]

I will correct you for being wrong. I had a whole list of issues, you only focused on the one that you thought was nonsensical, focused on that, and said it was laughable to compare that to something as awful as abortion. That’s a straw man.

Excuse me, you brought up the issues such as the TSA and Romney - care to name two in reference to not voting for Romney because of the abortion issue. So that means you think they need to be weighed against the millions that will be slaughtered by abortion? Are the TSA and Romneycare reasons to not vote for Romney in spite of the pro-life nature of the Romney/Ryan ticket? In your post, you downplayed Romney’s pro-life stance and emphasized the TSA at airports and also Romney care. And when I raise the question of what’s more important to you: the TSA issue or abortion, you call it a strawman.

Ishii

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Casting a vote for anybody else is a vote for Obama…

And liberal friends of mine believe that no vote or a vote for a third party candidate is a vote for Romney. Choose the belief you want to accept.

 

[lerapt78]

And Mitt Romney has said that he wants Roe V Wade to be overturned. Yet you question Romney’s sincerity and take at face value the words of the Ayatollah? That says it all.

Politicians are known for saying anything in order to pander to a certain vote. Romney did not attempt to overturn Roe vs Wade when he was governor; I see no reason to believe that he would do so as president.

Not yet. Hopefully we can keep the country whose leader said he wants to “wipe Israel off the map” from getting nuclear weapon.

The claim that Ahmadinejad made this statement “wipe Israel off the map” has been debunked by many (commondreams.org/headline/2012/04/18-2), so it’s probably not a good idea to keep repeating it, as it sheds unfavorable bias against the Iranian government. Even if it were true however, it is not the business of the United States to decide who does and does not get a nuclear weapon. When you attempt to deny a nation the ability to defend itself, you unjustly leave it vulnerable to others.

I don’t know… how many suicide terrorist attacks are perpetrated by North Koreans? How many are perpetrated by radical Islamists? How many radical Islamists live in Iran? There is your answer.

How many radical Islamists do live in Iran? Do you know? How many suicide terrorist attacks are committed by Iranians on a regular basis?

Not a direct attack that targets innocents. But I believe Israel would be justified in attacking Iran’s ability to complete a nuclear weapon - would be good to prevent another Jewish holocaust, don’t you think?

Ishii

“Another Jewish holocaust”? What does this mean?

 

[ishii]

Politicians are known for saying anything in order to pander to a certain vote. Romney did not attempt to overturn Roe vs Wade when he was governor; I see no reason to believe that he would do so as president.

Romney didn’t overturn Roe V Wade as governor?

Dude, do you not understand that governors do not nominate justices to the US supreme court? Its the president who nominates supreme court justices. Robert Bork is advising Romney on which justices to nominate as president. Do you know who Robert Bork is? His nomination to supreme court was blocked by Democrats because… they knew he would vote to overturn Roe V Wade.

The claim that Ahmadinejad made this statement “wipe Israel off the map” has been debunked by many (commondreams.org/headline/2012/04/18-2), so it’s probably not a good idea to keep repeating it, as it sheds unfavorable bias against the Iranian government. Even if it were true however, it is not the business of the United States to decide who does and does not get a nuclear weapon. When you attempt to deny a nation the ability to defend itself, you unjustly leave it vulnerable to others.

Provide a link to a site that isn’t an untrustworthy left-wing blog and I just might look at it. Which country is threatening Iran so that it would want a nuclear weapon?

How many radical Islamists do live in Iran? Do you know? How many suicide terrorist attacks are committed by Iranians on a regular basis?

I don’t know. It is common knowlege, however, that Iran is a state supporter of terrorists. Do you think its a good idea for terrorist supporting countries to have nuclear weapons?

“Another Jewish holocaust”? What does this mean?

What I mean, is that an Iranian attempt to “wipe Israel off the map” by nuclear weapons would mean another Jewish holocaust. I can understand Jews not wanting to let Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

Ishii

 

[_Abyssinia]

Suffolk Polling Gives Florida, Virginia and North Carolina to Romney – Will stop polling in these states! (Video)

 

[_Abyssinia]

New Poll: Romney leads Obama in North Carolina by nine points

Romney up huge with independents

 

[qui_est_ce]

I’m fine with giving no man such tremendous power as the presidency of the United States.

You want to make an amendment to the Constitution to get rid of that office?

 

[_Abyssinia]

Cascading polls?

Poll: Romney gains ground in michigan

Romney 48 to 43; ipd/tipp poll

Embolded Romney campaign now campaigning in obama counties

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

Cascading polls?

Poll: Romney gains ground in michigan

Romney 48 to 43; ipd/tipp poll

Embolded Romney campaign now campaigning in obama counties

Getting closer and closer to:

http://www.buriedwithchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/light-switch.jpg

 

[smndtupidisaftr]

You want to make an amendment to the Constitution to get rid of that office?

Maybe not the entire office, but I would definitely limit its powers. The same goes for the entire federal government. It has too much power and it’s definitely a violation of subsidiarity.

 

[smndtupidisaftr]

Excuse me, you brought up the issues such as the TSA and Romney - care to name two in reference to not voting for Romney because of the abortion issue. So that means you think they need to be weighed against the millions that will be slaughtered by abortion? Are the TSA and Romneycare reasons to not vote for Romney in spite of the pro-life nature of the Romney/Ryan ticket? In your post, you downplayed Romney’s pro-life stance and emphasized the TSA at airports and also Romney care. And when I raise the question of what’s more important to you: the TSA issue or abortion, you call it a strawman.

Ishii

It is a strawman because I mentioned the TSA, Romneycare, the Patriot Act, sanctions against Iran, NDAA, etc. It’s a strawman when you only deal with 1 of those issues and ridicule that 1 issue as being irrelevant compared to abortion.

By the way, if Romney cares so much about abortion, then why has he already said that he’s not going to defund Planned Parenthood? It’s immoral and unconstitutional, so why isn’t he going to do anything about it?

 

[Tampa_Dave]

Maybe not the entire office, but I would definitely limit its powers. The same goes for the entire federal government. It has too much power and it’s definitely a violation of subsidiarity.

You might be right. Obama’s abuse of czar appointments and regulatory activism supports your argument. I’ve always thought the federal government tramples the Constitution with respect to the 10th Amendment.

 

[smndtupidisaftr]

And Mitt Romney has said that he wants Roe V Wade to be overturned. Yet you question Romney’s sincerity and take at face value the words of the Ayatollah? That says it all.

He doesn’t want to defund Planned Parenthood. No one has proved that Iran is even making nuclear weapons.

original.antiwar.com/christian-stork/2012/09/27/the-complete-idiots-guide-to-iran-and-the-bomb-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-facts/

Not yet. Hopefully we can keep the country whose leader said he wants to “wipe Israel off the map” from getting nuclear weapon.

That’s a misquotation.

I don’t know… how many suicide terrorist attacks are perpetrated by North Koreans? How many are perpetrated by radical Islamists? How many radical Islamists live in Iran? There is your answer.

MAD prevented nuclear holocaust with Russia for many years, and they were a much greater threat than Iran is.

Not a direct attack that targets innocents. But I believe Israel would be justified in attacking Iran’s ability to complete a nuclear weapon - would be good to prevent another Jewish holocaust, don’t you think?

Ishii

Sanctions are directly targeting innocents.

 

[scipio337]

He doesn’t want to defund Planned Parenthood.

Not according to NARAL:

Vowing to defund Planned Parenthood, former Gov. Romney wrote that he would “eliminate Title X family planning programs,” which includes federal funding for birth control and cancer screenings.

prochoiceamerica.org/elections/2012/gop-presidential-candidates/mitt-romney.html

usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-11-03/mitt-romney-budget-plan/51063454/1

smndtupidisaftr:

No one has proved that Iran is even making nuclear weapons.

Right. Then why enrich uranium beyond 60%, or deny accesss to IAEA inspectors to those secret facilities?

smndtupidisaftr:

That’s a misquotation.

Even if that is granted, how you you take his “disappear from the page of time” to mean?

Through grass-roots peace activism? It doesn’t help that Iranian leaders as far back as Kohmeni call Israel a ‘cancer that must be removed’, or any numerous comments:

“Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken,” Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by the official IRNA news agency.

“Today the reason for the Zionist regime’s existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation,” he said.

Ahmadinejad added that Israel “has reached the end like a dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese” – a reference to the July-August 2006 war between Israel and the Shiite Hezbollah militia.

afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ix-viVGAnfS1RHJGzZHSGjnzDIXg

smndtupidisaftr:

MAD prevented nuclear holocaust with Russia for many years, and they were a much greater threat than Iran is.

The Soviet Union wasn’t ruled by Shia Twelvers.

smndtupidisaftr:

Sanctions are directly targeting innocents.

Only if you read presstv.

 

[smndtupidisaftr]

Not according to NARAL:

prochoiceamerica.org/elections/2012/gop-presidential-candidates/mitt-romney.html

usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-11-03/mitt-romney-budget-plan/51063454/1

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=718588

Right. Then why enrich uranium beyond 60%, or deny accesss to IAEA inspectors to those secret facilities?

The uranium stockpile is under constant surveilance. The IAEA has concluded that they’re not weaponizing uranium, as did the 2011 NIE.

Even if that is granted, how you you take his “disappear from the page of time” to mean?

Not a threat to attack.

Through grass-roots peace activism? It doesn’t help that Iranian leaders as far back as Kohmeni call Israel a ‘cancer that must be removed’, or any numerous comments:

Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and repeatedly refuses propositions for a Middle East Nuclear Weapons-Free Zone (MENWFZ) to be established as a means of ending the stand-off with Tehran, despite majority support from the Israeli public.

original.antiwar.com/christian-stork/2012/09/27/the-complete-idiots-guide-to-iran-and-the-bomb-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-facts/

The Soviet Union wasn’t ruled by Shia Twelvers.

It was ruled by people like Stalin who literally killed his own citizens.

Only if you read presstv.

No, sanctions affect everyone. No trade means whatever they were trading to get before they now no longer have. This means food supplies go way down, and that affects innocent civilians.

 

[scipio337]

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=718588

Mmmkay. I don’t see where he proposes keeping funding for PP running.

smndtupidisaftr:

The uranium stockpile is under constant surveilance. The IAEA has concluded that they’re not weaponizing uranium, as did the 2011 NIE.

Not weaponizing yet, but as the IAEA points out, continuing to process heavy water, enrich uranium past civilian use levels, nuclear payload research and “dual use” technology.

iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-65.pdf

smndtupidisaftr:

Not a threat to attack.

Says who? Iranian proxies Hezbollah (and to some degree, Hamas) have a history of attacking Israel.

original.antiwar.com/christian-stork/2012/09/27/the-complete-idiots-guide-to-iran-and-the-bomb-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-facts/

Ahhh, yes, the old “Iran stopped its nuclear weapons program that never existed in 2003!” argument.

Iran says it NEVER had a nuclear weapons program. The NIE says it went dormant. I’m relieved!

smndtupidisaftr:

It was ruled by people like Stalin who literally killed his own citizens.

But really had no desire to have the end of the world. The mullahcracy in Iran also has no problem killing its own citizens (see 2009 presidential election), with the added bonus of bringing about the “hidden Imam”.

smndtupidisaftr:

No, sanctions affect everyone. No trade means whatever they were trading to get before they now no longer have. This means food supplies go way down, and that affects innocent civilians.

Do you actually know what the “sanctions” are? Its essentially an arms embargo, with some foreign assets frozen. I’m not sure how that causes Iranians to die in the streets of starvation.