Presidential Election Poll 10-2-2012

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smndtupidisaftr said:
But in going against evil, we cannot support evil for an end that is less evil.

Romney has said that Obama hasn’t been tough enough on Iran. So instituting sanctions that are starving and killing people aren’t going far enough?
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Exactly what essential commodities are prevented from going to Iran because of the sanctions? In truth, none are. There are sanctions against selling parts that can be used in the nuclear program, true. But the real sanctions are lack of access to the world financial system. One may ask, then, why the U.S. or the rest of the world ought to facilitate Iranian commerce through their own banks, and one may certainly ask why anyone ought to aid in supporting Iranian currency.

The Iranian economy is terribly mismanaged. The government has a lot of operatives on the payroll whose function is to keep the rest of the population in line. It overspends massively on the military, on subsidies and on its nuclear program. Its economy would be in trouble without sanctions. The Iranian economy is in an inflationary crisis that has nothing at all to do with availability of ordinary goods. They are still freely available. But the currency is devaluing for the same reasons Zimbabwe’s currency is massively devalued and for the same reason the American dollar is devaluing. They print far too much of it.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Times/Bay News 9/Herald exclusive Florida poll: Romney 51, Obama 44

Romney has 46 to 44 lead with Hispanics
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I couldn’t open the cite, but it relates only to Hispanics in Florida, doesn’t it? If so, that should be no surprise because of the Cubans, who tend to be more likely to vote Repub than other Hispanics.

There are lots of kinds of Hispanics, and they’re not all the same. I realize many wouldn’t agree with me, but based on the Mexican-Americans (nearly all the Hispanics around here) I know, they tend to vote Dem, but probably won’t in another generation, because the ones I know are even more free enterprise oriented than “Anglos” are, by and large, and disdain governmental interference in their lives even more.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I couldn’t open the cite, but it relates only to Hispanics in Florida, doesn’t it? If so, that should be no surprise because of the Cubans, who tend to be more likely to vote Repub than other Hispanics.

There are lots of kinds of Hispanics, and they’re not all the same. I realize many wouldn’t agree with me, but based on the Mexican-Americans (nearly all the Hispanics around here) I know, they tend to vote Dem, but probably won’t in another generation, because the ones I know are even more free enterprise oriented than “Anglos” are, by and large, and disdain governmental interference in their lives even more.
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Was a general poll, does not say Hispanics only were surveyed
 
Ridgerunner said:
I couldn’t open the cite, but it relates only to Hispanics in Florida, doesn’t it? If so, that should be no surprise because of the Cubans, who tend to be more likely to vote Repub than other Hispanics.

There are lots of kinds of Hispanics, and they’re not all the same. I realize many wouldn’t agree with me, but based on the Mexican-Americans (nearly all the Hispanics around here) I know, they tend to vote Dem, but probably won’t in another generation, because the ones I know are even more free enterprise oriented than “Anglos” are, by and large, and disdain governmental interference in their lives even more.
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If its Hispanics in Florida, the poll is skewed. Cuban-Americans are heavily Republican. I can’t believe that Romney is leading among Hispanics anywhere else. Just being realistic.
 
Tampa_Dave said:
If its Hispanics in Florida, the poll is skewed. Cuban-Americans are heavily Republican. I can’t believe that Romney is leading among Hispanics anywhere else. Just being realistic.
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Oh, me too. But if Romney can get 5-10% more Hispanics than did McCain, it’s over.
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
Oh, me too. But if Romney can get 5-10% more Hispanics than did McCain, it’s over.
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It might be there. Hard to know. In 2008, the majority of white Catholics voted for McCain. The Hispanic Catholics voted heavily for Obama, with the result that the majority of the “Catholic vote” went to Obama. If today even a slight majority of Catholics support Romney, it at least suggests that some of the Hispanic vote has shifted. The alternative, of course, could be that more white Catholics now support Romney than supported McCain in 2008.
 
Ridgerunner said:
It might be there. Hard to know. In 2008, the majority of white Catholics voted for McCain. The Hispanic Catholics voted heavily for Obama, with the result that the majority of the “Catholic vote” went to Obama. If today even a slight majority of Catholics support Romney, it at least suggests that some of the Hispanic vote has shifted. The alternative, of course, could be that more white Catholics now support Romney than supported McCain in 2008.
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Or both:D
 
Ridgerunner said:
It might be there. Hard to know. In 2008, the majority of white Catholics voted for McCain. The Hispanic Catholics voted heavily for Obama, with the result that the majority of the “Catholic vote” went to Obama. If today even a slight majority of Catholics support Romney, it at least suggests that some of the Hispanic vote has shifted. The alternative, of course, could be that more white Catholics now support Romney than supported McCain in 2008.
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I think this may be your answer.
 
Ridgerunner said:
It might be there. Hard to know. In 2008, the majority of white Catholics voted for McCain. The Hispanic Catholics voted heavily for Obama, with the result that the majority of the “Catholic vote” went to Obama. If today even a slight majority of Catholics support Romney, it at least suggests that some of the Hispanic vote has shifted. The alternative, of course, could be that more white Catholics now support Romney than supported McCain in 2008.
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I would think that the HHS mandate may be enough to sway some more Hispanic catholics towards the RR ticket…🤷
 
katcecelia said:
I would think that the HHS mandate may be enough to sway some more Hispanic catholics towards the RR ticket…🤷
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Maybe, but the homosexual “marriage” endorsement of Obama might matter even more. Admittedly, virtually every Hispanic I know is a Mexican or Mexican-American. Homosexuality is viewed with such disdain by them that it’s hard to even describe, and they mostly don’t even try to hide it. Marriage, as an institution, (regardless of sometime infidelity) is extremely revered.
 
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