Presidential Election Poll 10-2-2012

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estesbob said:
I am advocating sharia law? bye.
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Of course, estesbob - if your faith guides you morals and influences how you vote, then you are imposing your religion on everyone else in this country - Sharia law! Just like in the civil rights era in the 60’s, the ministers marching to abolish Jim Crow laws were imposing their religion on the rest of the country - Sharia law! As are laws against rape - Sharia law! And anyone who wants to protec the unborn wants to promote Sharia law, right? We can’t have anyone letting their religion influence their vote in this diverse nation of ours. The only influence we can allow is secular humanism and atheism.

Ishii
 
estesbob said:
I’m reminded of the section in Tolkiens “The Hobbit” where certain creatures are turned to stone when the sun comes up. Unfortunately in the artificial world of CAf there is no direct sunlight-our only alternative is to make sure we don’t feed them.
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You mean trolls?
 
More lib spin trash. At any rate… obamacrapcare needs to go… all of it. BTW: there aren’t 32 million w/o insurance… most of those just don’t want to pay becuz they are young and healthy… and don’t need it.

If I was young and healthy… I wouldn’t have insurance ( middle aged ), and I wouldn’t pay the tax penalty.
tskrobacz said:
Clearly there is not only one way. A better way is to revise the language to fully exempt religious organizations (See my previous post). No one here speaks of the benefits of HHS…here they are:
  1. The Act was designed to reduce overall health care costs by making services available to the 32 million who currently can’t get insurance. They often use a hospital emergency room as their primary care physician, increasing costs for everyone. This starts in 2014.
  2. For people who can’t afford health insurance, the Federal government will pay the states to add them to Medicaid. The income requirement is expanded up to 133% of the Federal poverty level - roughly $29,000 for a family of four.
  3. Those who don’t qualify for the expanded Medicaid will receive tax credits if their income is below 400% of the poverty level ($88,000 for a family of four). States will be required to set up insurance exchanges to make it easier to shop for private health insurance coverage.
  4. Insurance companies cannot deny children coverage for pre-existing conditions. This benefit applies to everyone in 2014. Insurance companies can no longer drop anyone from coverage once they get sick. If a company denies someone coverage, that person can go to an external appeals process.
  5. Parents can put their children up to age 26 on their health insurance plans. This will bring more profit for health insurance companies, since they will receive more premiums without higher costs for these healthier individuals. As of 2012, more than three million previously uninsured young people were added. (Source: Department of Health and Human Services)
  6. The Medicare “donut hole” gap in coverage will be eliminated by 2020.
  7. People with existing health insurance will keep it. Businesses prefer to offer a tax-free benefit like health insurance to attract good workers. That won’t change under Obamacare.
  8. Obamacare does not apply to businesses with less than 50 employees. Larger businesses are required to offer health insurance, but receive tax credits to help employees pay premiums. In 2014, the tax credit increases to 50%.
  9. The Act will lower the budget deficit by $143 billion over the next 10 years by raising some taxes and shifting more cost burdens. (Source: CBO CBO Report on Health Care Reform and the Budget; Wall Street Journal, What Health Insurance Ruling Means, June 28, 2012; NPR, Medicaid Expansion, June 27, 2012)
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Ohio Is Closer than You Think

The Early Vote Totals This Saturday Morning
Gravis OH poll has a tied race @ 47%. Romney leads indys by 19 and O approval at 44-50. Sample is D+9. That is not a good poll for O…
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Democrat 36.4%, Other 33.1%, Republican, 30.5%
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It’s Romney’s Race to Lose

Ppp
Obama is up 66/34 with early voters in Ohio (21% of electorate) but down 52/44 with those yet to vote
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What is the sample size?
Our new Ohio poll finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 49-48, down from 51-46 last week
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In Februrary Mitt Romney’s favorability in Ohio was 28/56. Now it’s 49/47. 30 point net positive shift over the course of the year
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GOP voters flock to early ballots
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
May I ask what ECC means? You do not have to answer, of course.🙂
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Does it matter? I’ve already been called names and accused of saying things I did not say here by “catholics”…I see no need to give you more material for waging personal attacks!

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smndtupidisaftr said:
I vote for none of the above. All are too pro-war for me, and a vote form them is tacit approval of their pro-war policies.
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Apparently, you think this is the most important thing in the election. You can wait around until the perfect candidate comes or live long enough to see it happens, if ever, because everyone has their own ideal perfect candidate. In the meantime, more policy is being passed to kill more unborn under Obama admin. It’s hard to go back once something has taken root. Just look at Rove vs Wade. By not voting, you are standing on the sideline, allowing more unborn to be killed. Depends on who you are against. You might not like either candidate, but at least you are more against one than the other. If 100,000 people are like you, not voting, then 100,000 votes will go to the person you are against. We do the best we can with what is given, but not doing anything is not acceptable, especially for a Catholic.

Now if it doesn’t matter who sits in office and can careless about the unborn, you can disregard what is said here.
 
tskrobacz said:
Does it matter? I’ve already been called names and accused of saying things I did not say here by “catholics”…I see no need to give you more material for waging personal attacks!

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I won’t attack you. What does ECC mean? Do the 'C’s stand for Catholic? Why the secrecy?

Ishii
 
tskrobacz said:
Does it matter? I’ve already been called names and accused of saying things I did not say here by “catholics”…I see no need to give you more material for waging personal attacks!

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No problem.🙂
 
cathgal said:
Apparently, you think this is the most important thing in the election. You can wait around until the perfect candidate comes or live long enough to see it happens, if ever, because everyone has their own ideal perfect candidate. In the meantime, more policy is being passed to kill more unborn under Obama admin. It’s hard to go back once something has taken root. Just look at Rove vs Wade. By not voting, you are standing on the sideline, allowing more unborn to be killed. Depends on who you are against. You might not like either candidate, but at least you are more against one than the other. If 100,000 people are like you, not voting, then 100,000 votes will go to the person you are against. We do the best we can with what is given, but not doing anything is not acceptable, especially for a Catholic.

Now if it doesn’t matter who sits in office and can careless about the unborn, you can disregard what is said here.
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We can not the perfect be the enemy of the possible.
 
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