Priest to be, dreaming of females?

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Pimpsta said:
mmmmm quickly google “Franciscan monk” why do searches show up with that phrase:D
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We are not monks. We do not make a vow of stability. We do not make a vow of silence. We do not live in an enclosure or make a vow of enclosure. Our houses are friaries or fraternities. Oiur nuns are monastic, but not our men.

We are mendicants. We are itinerant preachers and basically we are an order of brothers. We allow men to be ordained, but that is the decision of the community and the superior. We do not enter the order to be priests. We enter the order to be Franciscan or to be like Francis. We want to follow Christ in the footsteps of St. Francis: in obedience, in prayer, penance, brotherhood, liturgy, devotion to Mary and ministry. The priesthood is a vocation within a vocation. Those friars who are allowed to be ordained are elected by the council of the Province.

A friar can ask for ordination, but the community reserves the right to deny it. You may not ask for ordination until after you have made solemn vows. This means that you are expected to consecrate your life to living in our brotherhood until death, under the pain of excommunication or the fires of hell, if you leave without permission. Once you have made that final commitment, then you can ask for Holy Orders. But you are told from the beginning as you go through formation whether the order believes that you have a vocation to Holy Orders. The voice of Christ comes through the brothers who vote for you to be ordained. They submit their vote to the Provincial Council. They vote. They submit their vote to the Major Superior. He decides.

It is a doctrine of the Church that if the Major Superior tells you that you have a vocation to be a Franciscan, but not a vocation to be a priest, then Christ has spoken and the case is closed. You still have to attend college for four years and six years of formation and graduate school, regardless of whether you are going to be a priest or not. After your solemn profession, you return to the formation house to finish any academic studies that you have yet to complete. Then you are assigned to your first pastoral mission. You may be either a lay brother or a cleric brother.

In any case, we are not monks. You can call us friars, brothers or mendicants. Google and other search engines is put together by lay people. Most lay people do not know the difference between a mendicant and a monk. Francisans follow numerous monastic customs such as praying the liturgy of the Hours, living in fraternity, wearing a monastic habit and other disciplines that work for consecrated religious. If they work, why not use them? But we are not monks. We belong on the street with other people. We’re not parish priests either, though many of our men work in parishes, because there is a shortage of secular priests in the USA. We do it as an aid to the bishops.

I hope this helps.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
BrooklynBoy200 said:
change your moniker man, it’s very disrespectful toward women.
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:mad: Indeed it is.

Not only that but it is really disconcerting to see someone discerning the priesthood presenting himself by combining the word “pimp” and “gangsta,” regardless of how cute and funny he or his friends think it is. I don’t get why he persists in flaunting such a handle. We are called to be in the world, not of it.
 
beckycmarie said:
:mad: Indeed it is.

Not only that but it is really disconcerting to see someone discerning the priesthood presenting himself by combining the word “pimp” and “gangsta,” regardless of how cute and funny he or his friends think it is. I don’t get why he persists in flaunting such a handle. We are called to be in the world, not of it.
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Amen.

I noticed you cut out my “lol”. I just want to say that I wasn’t putting that there to diminish the importance of what I was saying, I put it there because i thought it was so ridiculous a moniker to see on “Catholic Answer Forums”.
Not saying you took it as such, just pointing that out.
 
Pimpsta, by your name and the way you present yourself by the words you’ve chosen to use, I do not think you are anywhere near ready to think about priesthood. To be quite honest, when I first read your responses I thought you were joking and trying to stir a debate.

To be a priest you must first have a calling from God, I don’t know whether or not you do and will not judge you by that. I think the answers you seek will come to you if you isolate yourself and spend time with God, reading the bible and meditating on its words.

Dreams can mean anything, sometimes it is just out of your imagination, and sometimes it can be either God (bringing you closer to him) or satan (trying to cause you to sin).

Hope this helped you.
 
Pimpsta I wouldn’t be worried.

To a great extent we’re all attracted to women, and we all have something of a natural urge to reproduce and raise children. I think that’s going to be there, at least somewhat, whether you have a vocation to the priesthood or not. The question is whether your calling to the priesthood is enough to make you renounce all that.

Sexual dreams are very normal, there’s not much you can do about them 😉
 
Sexual attraction is not an impediment to Holy Orders. The fact that the candidate must prove is that he has the maturity and the self-discipline to a life of celibacy.

As to the name, I’ve heard worse and they have turned out to be wonderful priests or brothers. Check out the Franciscans of the Renewal. Some of our friars in that branch of the order have some very interesting and unconventional backgrounds.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Kristofer88 said:
Pimpsta, by your name and the way you present yourself by the words you’ve chosen to use, I do not think you are anywhere near ready to think about priesthood. To be quite honest, when I first read your responses I thought you were joking and trying to stir a debate.
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What on earth are you talking about. You judgment is superficial!
 
From a psychological pespective, this kind of dream is very normal for chaste men.

I would say this kind of dream is also true for normal unchaste men… and women! 🙂
 
I have been very amused by all this. No life state is a piece of cake. Pimpsta, if you think you have a vocation, go talk to a clergy member in person. The discernment process is a long one so you’ll have years to decide, and rest assured you’ll have many dreams in the process!
 
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