Priest with speech impediment ; is Mass still valid?

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I was recently at a daily Mass where the priest had some type of disability involving his speech. He said things such as “as we celery this Eucharist”, “for you and for money”, “companions on the Germany of life”. It was clear that he was not intending to go against any rubrics. Is the Mass in this case still valid? I wasn’t sure.
 
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I was recently at a daily Mass where the priest had some type of disability involving his speech. He said things such as “as we celery this Eucharist”, “for you and for money”, “companions on the Germany of life”. It was clear that he was not intending to go against any rubrics. Is the Mass in this case still valid? I wasn’t sure.
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In my opinion it was still valid - valid by the priest’s ‘intention’ that is.
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victrolatim said:
I was recently at a daily Mass where the priest had some type of disability involving his speech. He said things such as “as we celery this Eucharist”, “for you and for money”, “companions on the Germany of life”. It was clear that he was not intending to go against any rubrics. Is the Mass in this case still valid? I wasn’t sure.
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Yes, it’s valid. Unless what you’re suggesting to us is that you think he intended to say ‘celery’, ‘money’, and ‘Germany’… in which case I’d ask that you pray about what you’re thinking about that priest… :sad_yes:
 
I’ve been to lots of Masses celebrated by foreign priests with weird accents (or locally around here, an English Mass with a Francophone priest), which isn’t a speech impediment but the result is the same, garbled words.

Yes, the Mass is still valid.
 
I doubt he got to be a priest without any of his superiors noticing his impediment. If they didn’t see a problem, why would you? :rolleyes:
 
Lord,Son of God the Father Almighty
have mercy on us and on the whole world!
 
victrolatim said:
I was recently at a daily Mass where the priest had some type of disability involving his speech. He said things such as “as we celery this Eucharist”, “for you and for money”, “companions on the Germany of life”. It was clear that he was not intending to go against any rubrics. Is the Mass in this case still valid? I wasn’t sure.
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No, he did not say “celery”, “money” and “Germany.” He SAID “celebrate”, “many” and “journey”. His impediment may have mangled the sounds, but he SAID the correct words.

The Sacraments aren’t magic.
 
We have a priest who speaks Spanish as a first language and he all the time says “Llama God you take away the sins of the world” I am quite certain he is not calling upon some alpaca deity in idol form…
 
He’s saying a valid Mass.

Could’ve been a life-long thing, could be the result of a stroke, anyways it doesn’t matter. God knows the hearts of Him and the faithful.
 
I remember one of the Early Medieval Christian authors (perhaps, Venerable Bede) was complaining about priests contemporary to him being poorly versed in Latin, often saying “In nomine Patris et Filiae et Spiritus Sancti” - “In the name of the Father, the Daughter and the Holy Ghost”. 😊😊😊
 
When I first returned to the church I attended a parish who’s priest had a strong Filipino accent.
I was so grateful the Lord had called me back to the church. This priest I felt was very holy and I would pray the Holy Spirit would infuse into me those things I may not have understood so well.
On the other end were many parishioners who openly complained about this priest, and shared with whomever was standing around.I finally one day spoke up and said how I felt.

well, on a last note I wonder how many people are in places where a priest can not reach them to administer the Mass +++ :(:signofcross:
 
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Dude (ette) are you taking the Lord’s name in vain?
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hahaha Dude ette. cute.🙂 :hug1: I was saying a prayer for the Eternal Father to have mercy on us.
The Holy Year of Mercy is upon us!
and papa franceso’s visit 🙂
 
I find your post a little disrespectful to be honest this man cannot help how he says the words but I am sure mass is valid. My advice is be more tolerant of people and be thankful that this man is brave enough to stand up and say mass.
 
One of our Cathedral Polish priests says" “The BOD of Christ” to each of us, We all know what he means. Many local priests lapse into Irish… although I havent a clue, we still know…
 
So if you attended a Mass that was said in another language, would you have this same concern?
 
victrolatim said:
I was recently at a daily Mass where the priest had some type of disability involving his speech. He said things such as “as we celery this Eucharist”, “for you and for money”, “companions on the Germany of life”. It was clear that he was not intending to go against any rubrics. Is the Mass in this case still valid? I wasn’t sure.
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Don’t be ridiculous. Of course it’s valid. The priest has every intention of saying the Mass properly. SO WHAT if he mispronounces some of the words despite his best efforts to the contrary?

Why look askance on this good man who’s doing his best despite an impediment? And how do you know your hearing isn’t contributing to the distorted words you hear?

Why be so self-centered as to be concerned only with the deleterious effect his pronunciation might have on you? Why think our loving God is a venal and formalistic fussbudget who’d consider a speech impediment as a spiritual demerit or nullity? Why not pray for this priest and thank God that there’s a priest in your area to make the Mass available to you and others? Perhaps do some act of reparation for your own interior disposition as well?

Sorry to go off like this, but the silly spiritual neurosis one encounters in these forums is so disheartneing. Such a waste. Such a lack of faith to rely on formalities and legalities rather than trusting in God’s goodness and mercy. If I read one more thread asking whether some silly technical issue rendered a Mass, or prayer, or other sacrament invalid. I will scream. Seriously, this is just ludicrous.

God is the source of all grace. He loves all of us beyond our comprehension and despite our shortcomings and even despite our base and selfish natures. We must always be mindful of this love and of our need for forgiveness, mercy, and grace.
 
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