Priests being moved

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The great majority of the sexual abuse by priests was from prior to Vatican 2, up to the 80’s. And the bishops who failed have for the most part met their Savior and their judgement. There aren’t too many priests who are christened bishop under the age of 50; one ordained bishop in 1990 who was 50 years old would be about 80 now, well past the time for retirement.

While I would not suggest anyone engage in naivety, the bishops who failed are like two three bishops predecessor to the current ones. Your mistrust of them seems misapplied.
 
Eh, bishops were called out and taken away just a few years ago. I think you’re a bit trusting there. I’m wary even when my kids go in the Confessional. I trust our pastor and the priest who is moving after getting to KNOW them. The new priest? My kids will not be alone with him in a Confession box until I am comfortable. It will take awhile.
 
I understand the emotional reaction.

On the other hand, out of all priests, it was about 3% who abused. That is not to say that abuse cannot occur; but unless you home school, your children have an equal or greater risk of abuse by a school teacher. The priests who have abused have been removed; and anyone who might do something untoward is going to be removed. rapidly.

And for overall sexual abuse, children are far greater in danger of being abused by a family member (uncle, parent, cousin, etc.) than they are by the local priest.

And I am not saying there was never abuse in a confessional, but there are none that I know of; the abuse occurred where priests had continued access tot he children; often as altar servers or in a school.

One of the leads into abuse is that the abuser “curries” the child. And that occurs over a period of time; it is not as if the abusers were grabbing a child and forcing them down a dark alley. Confessional? No.
 
Jen7 said:
Well I heard about a victim saying they were abused in a Confessional.
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I also know priests who were falsely accused. There has been big money to be had suing a diocese. And while I would grant that few of the accusations against priests were false, that is one I would be extremely inclined to doubt.

Let me put it another way: there are people lined up - even if a few - outside the confessional; better than 80% of the abuse occurred to teenage boys, and short of a violent rape occurring in a matter of 5 minutes - what is the likelihood?

Zero.

“I heard” is an extremely common phrase, and is nothing new in the world; but with the internet (and you did not say where you heard this) anything can and does get passed around.

Unless the person abused has actually come out in public and said such, there is no reason to believe it; and if they have come out in public, then they should be able to name place, time, date, people involved, and explain how this managed to occur within such an extremely short time and they gave no notice to anyone waiting in line - or their parents, guardians, teachers or any other trusted adult. No one I know of has done such.

And it is off topic.
 
otjm said:
I also know priests who were falsely accused. There has been big money to be had suing a diocese. And while I would grant that few of the accusations against priests were false, that is one I would be extremely inclined to doubt.
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I can see a proposition or suggestive comment being made and, if in the same room, maybe inappropriate touching
 
Elf01 said:
I can see a proposition or suggestive comment being made and, if in the same room, maybe inappropriate touching
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And the priest is going to risk the child walking out of the confessional and telling the parent?

Riiiiight.
 
Elf01 said:
Abusers are great at getting victims to stay silent.
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And those abusers are the ones who have curried a child - be they under teenage years, or teenagers. Not some priest who may have a child in the confessional for two or three minutes (or, gasp, 5 minutes!).
 
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