…“You speak here of Catholic faith as if it is supposed to hide us from reality instead of lead us to face reality, as if it is supposed to confuse basic moral truths instead of clarify them, and as if it is supposed to help us escape the hard moral questions of life rather than help us confront them,” Father Frank Pavone continues in the letter. “Whatever Catholic faith you claim to respect and practice, it is not the faith that the Catholic Church teaches. And I speak for countless Catholics when I say that it’s time for you to stop speaking as if it were.” …
… The letter from Pavone concludes: “Mrs. Pelosi, for decades you have gotten away with betraying and misrepresenting the Catholic faith as well as the responsibilities of public office. We have had enough of it. Either exercise your duties as a public servant and a Catholic, or have the honesty to formally renounce them.” …
I think she is in danger of losing her soul. I have a hard time doing it, but I pray for her to come to her senses.May God have mercy on her soul.
It’s a scandal they have not excommunicated this woman yet if, that is, she is as pro-abortion as they say she is and all the while still publicly pretending to be a Catholic.Priests Demand Pelosi Renounce Catholicism After Abortion is “Sacred Ground” Comment
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One cannot be a socialist and follow Catholic Church teachings. A simple google of what the Church and Popes have said about socialism in the past should put an end to that line of thinking. You can look at this for starters: tfp.org/tfp-home/catholic-perspective/what-the-popes-have-to-say-about-socialism.htmlMay I just say that I am a democratic-socialist, yet I follow all the church’s teachings. Your political generalizations are incorrect, as are most Catholics’. Obama, to me, is the best president for our time. Don’t expect in this day and age that a decent, honest, and faithful politican will come along.
There is a difference between demanding someone renounce their faith, who is authentically trying to live the faith, and demanding someone to stop purposefully misrepresenting the faith when such a misrepresentation does harm to the faith and its followers.This is quite unbelievable, what these priests are doing. Such men have no right nor reason whatsoever to demand of anyone that they renounce the Catholic faith, and may God have mercy on their souls. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I think these “priests” are making a “mortal” mistake. It is time for someone, man or woman, to inform the clergymen of the Catholic Church that they do not decide everything nor do they know everything.
So because a priest can’t have a child they have no right to defend the rights of the unborn??? That’s absurd. But that’s not even the point.When a Catholic clergyman is threatened with pregnancy and actually raises a child of his own, I’ll be happy to accept their stance on abortion. While I am pro-life, I’m not pro-life because the Roman Catholic Church told me to be, but because God did.
The social issues I spoke of (abortion and same-sex marriage) are intrinsic evils. Economic issues are not. Whether you agree with the Catholic Church or not is between you and God, but that is what the Church teaches. Hitler could have had a booming economy, but that wouldn’t have made him a good leader.Why do you focus on the social issues and not the economic issues? While I disagree with the pro-choice stance, I do respect it as with the same-sex marriage stance. Supporting same-sex marriage will not send me to hell, especially if I live a holy life. Obama has repaired our economy in the best way since Bill Clinton. He is responsible, reasonably honest, and he performs well under certain pressure.
As for socialism, my friend, you a greatly misunderstood. I believe in the distrubution of wealth, which essentially is socialism. How can you accept the gap that has divided America due to the greedy outcome of merciless monopolies and trusts?
Maybe I don’t understand your point, but I stand by mine.I see your point, but I don’t think you understand my point. If you wish to debate this further, my Skype is “jackgoldwrecker” or “Jack Goldwrecker.” As I am tired and sick of replying after waiting, I will not continue. If you wish to debate on Skype if you have it, so be it!
Thank you for this debate, and God bless you.
I mean no disrespect, but I do not see how the distribution of wealth is evil. And I also must point out that same-sex marriage is not “evil,” as it is impossible as it is not a living thing, nor an object, but a concept. I only support the “right” to marry anyone you wish, not the actual homosexual acts, which is what the Catholic Church is against.The social issues I spoke of (abortion and same-sex marriage) are intrinsic evils. Economic issues are not. Whether you agree with the Catholic Church or not is between you and God, but that is what the Church teaches. Hitler could have had a booming economy, but that wouldn’t have made him a good leader.
And regarding socialism, you must not have looked at what the previous popes said about it (and I was even nice enough to provide a link). It is not I that am misunderstood, but apprarently all of the previous popes who have spoken on the matter. I suggest you take it up with them.