Priest's greeting of lapsed catholics

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pianistclare said:
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I truly believe many Catholics see the Sacraments as a Traditional “thing to do”. Totally missing the big picture! Personally, I saw this in my Parish CCD. It was lackluster to the point I couldn’t blame my peers for their confusion. 😐
 
Yes, there are many books and scholarly articles written with this premise. People of a certain age really view the Sacraments like this.
 
ConfusedLucy said:
I meant parish as in authority of a parish which I guess means priest. I imagine letting parishioners vote on these things could get ugly.

Would you be absolved of your obligation if you set out to a mass in good faith and had to be turned away due to overcrowding?
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Most churches have fire code numbers over twice as high as seat numbers.

Again—Christmas Mass? No one is ever turned away.

I’ve been to Masses in the DC area, brand new 1200 seat churches and there were always dozens standing who could not find a seat.

I’ve been to about where Clare is from during my travels. I visited maybe a dozen weekends and saw at least a half dozen baptisms…one every other time I went, not to mention one was a triple baptism (3 different families) and a few had 2 children/families. WAY better than where I live where baptisms of any kind are few and far between. Most certainly not enough to do weekly.
 
ConfusedLucy said:
What if you can’t stand? I probably couldn’t stand for an hour right now.
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-plan ahead

-ask for a chair or other help

As my professor once said “poor planning on your part does not make a crisis on mine” If you absolutely need a seat arrive 15-20 minutes early.
 
I think it would be very poor planning of the priest and I’m glad that the churches near me don’t do this. I mean I’d suck it up but I’m glad it doesn’t happen.

As for welcoming into the community, I think the issue is that there was historically more overlap. It’s natural to feel more of an affinity for people you are emotionally close to rather than people you only see at mass. A lot of Catholics struggle with fellowship.
 
ConfusedLucy said:
As for welcoming into the community, I think the issue is that there was historically more overlap.
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Indeed. It wasn’t that terribly long ago that the folks in church on Sunday morning were folks from the neighborhood, people you saw all week, worked and went to school with, often part of the same ethnic group. (I think this was pretty much true with our Protestant friends too)

But now it seems like its all the “Megachurch” kind of thing going on.
 
Also people move around more which means more out of town family members and less of a connection to ones parish. I wish it was different but wishing doesn’t get you anywhere.
 
I have to say, this is not based on what Jesus said, further it appears to be in contradiction to what Jesus said. Do you give any weight to the words of Jesus, if not, why not? Where does Jesus say Serious assurances, oh, nowhere. But he did say what I set out. How about dealing with those words. So has the church ever been wrong? Gallileo? It’s handling of Martin Luther? How about it’s dealing with pedaphile priests? Would you like to say it is always right?

I know of good people, regular attenders at Sunday Mass, who when a new priest came in with his rules, they left after having tried to have a discussion with him. Are priests always right. Is it possible to improve anything to do with the church organisation. Well we can see that some of the curia don’t think the Pope is right about things. Which of them is in the right?

This is my last post on this matter, I am not into banging my head against a brick wall. Thank God for Jesus.
 
I had an experience a month ago at work with a fellow catholic.

Backstory, I had moved to a different parish a couple of months ago - unbeknown to this fellow work colleague and Catholic. Over the last couple of months i had been snubbed by this person. When eventually he asked why I was not attending Mass. I was astounded that his snubbing was a judgment on his behalf and in his eyes that I was no longer attending Mass.

I wonder how many other people in my last parish thought that too.
 
ConfusedLucy said:
I think it would be very poor planning of the priest and I’m glad that the churches near me don’t do this. I mean I’d suck it up but I’m glad it doesn’t happen.

As for welcoming into the community, I think the issue is that there was historically more overlap. It’s natural to feel more of an affinity for people you are emotionally close to rather than people you only see at mass. A lot of Catholics struggle with fellowship.
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No, no it wouldn’t. Any given week you can have more than just the “regulars” and again…ideally everyone who went to the baptism would also go to Mass…so crowd wise it solves nothing.

I mean, unless you are counting on those who attend Baptism not caring to attend Mass…

And it’s going to improve the situation by requiring children be baptized outside of Mass? I mean “we stink at fellowship…lets keep our newest memebers even more isolated.” Great idea!!!

Ok then. We will see which churches are still open in 20 years…
 
2 Timothy 4:4

“And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables.”

In short, this Thread has presented the undeniable truth. There’s nothing more to say 😐
 
NO one is ever limited to Mass. This is a very anti-Catholic viewpoint. Everyone is always welcome.
the only thing that is sometimes by invitation only is Ordinations.
I don’t know where you get this idea… unsubscribing.
I’ve worked in parishes for years. Still do. No one has been turned away at the doors of the Church
 
Inisfallen said:
That’s absolutely true. But denying baptism to a child? It’s not the child’s fault that his/her parents don’t take their faith seriously.

I could see not letting a (baptized) child receive the Eucharist for the first time without preparation and participation on the part of the parents. But it seems to me that baptism is a special case.
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I’m wondering if priests would be concerned about scandal here.
 
Again, I’d suck it up, but to suddenly turn up to an overcrowded mass and have to plead for a seat would be pretty stressful, probably more so to those who struggle with anxiety.

In my experience most peoples friends and family are a religious mix and invites tend to give the baptism start time. You’d get some visiting Catholic extras at mass but unlikely huge numbers.

I don’t think moving baptism to mass would solve the fellowship difficulties on it’s own.
 
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