Prince Harry and Meghan

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I’m all for righting historical wrongs. I suppose there may be a few snags when the United States returns all her territory to those from whom it was stolen, but no doubt good old freedom-loving American Can-Do will sort it out.
When Britain demands her territory, and subjects, it should cause a few snags, as you’ve said. But then, shouldn’t Britain have to make reparations to India and other such places? It gets too complicated for me! 😄
 
Then you mean the territory the US encroaches (and more) upon. Is that right? (I am not good at history, adequate, I guess, but I fall short of good.)
 
I think some opinions should be bronzed and put on display as cautionary warnings. That date of 1781, and the end of imperialism, presents visions of vast vistas of revisionism that should be awarded some sort of prize.
 
I had the Native American nations (and indeed the Mexicans) in mind.
 
Mr Custer’s post certainly portrayed an unconventional, if lively, sense of history.
 
I think it would have had the Transvaal/Orange Free State folks scratching their heads.
 
As it happens when I’ve finished the book I’m currently reading (which is about King Edgar, someone of whom I was previously woefully ignorant) I’m starting David Cannadine’s new book, Victorious Century. Perhaps when I’ve finished that I should send it on to Mr Custer.
 
You cannot be more ignorant of Ed than I am.

As to VICTORIOUS CENTURY, I conclude that I must order it. A.N. Wilson likes it, which is neither here nor there.
 
Where did the wealthy “old money” families of any given republic acquire their wealth?
If we are going to play this game, that is judging the past through the lens of the present, a lot of people are going to suddenly find themselves disinherited…
 
By your logic, all non-native Americans should redistribute their wealth to the aboriginal peoples… you could play this game a lot of ways if you’re going to suddenly challenge laws of inheritance based on your arbitrary radically liberal principles :P. You sound almost like a Marxist :P.
 
The Americans forced the UK back to a “junior” power in the 18th century??? You do realize that the British Empire was THE great power in the 19th and early 20th centuries? It was only after they took the brunt of both World Wars that they truly diminished as a superpower. The US didn’t emerge as a superpower until the 20th century.
 
God-loving Americans defeated the evils of British Monarchy once and for all in 1781…everyone knows that. 😉
 
Picky or GK can straighten me out if I’m mistaken, but hasn’t England had a number of Lutheran monarchs, including some of the Georges?

I mean, the Monarch is technically Governor of the Church of England, but might they personally profess any non-Roman Catholic Christianity so long as it can be interpreted as acceptable within the CoE?
 
Don’t know that I’d draw the line so vividly at the Great Wars. The US made major shows of force against Spain, Mexico and others as early as the 1810s. By the mid-1800s, there was no real question as to which countries could effect their will in the world.

Had it not been for the American Civil War, the US would have established itself as an unquestioned superpower even earlier. Heck, Lincoln threatened the UK with invasion to keep them from meddling on the South’s behalf during the Civil War. How’d a second-rate nation in a brutal civil war tell off a supposed superpower Empire?

By the 1860s, the North alone had a standing army of 600,000. The entire British Empire had just 130,000 – of which 30,000 were bogged down in India, and the rest spread thinly around the globe, often ill-equipped and really more occupying security for the colony companies than true soldiers.

I suppose you could make the argument that the British colonial armies (who were even worse-equipped and poorly-trained than their regular counterparts) would boost the British number a few tens of thousands, but then you’d have to consider that the entire mobilization forces for the Union (again, alone) were well over 1 million.

The US was undoubtedly a superpower by the end of the 18th Century. A neophyte, but a superpower nonetheless.
 
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I think a more likely argument was that the British knew the US was supplying a major portion of its food imports, off-setting the inconvenience that the lack of imported cotton caused the British textile industries. Coupled with the fact that there was no clear cut movement to recognize/intervene on either side of the conflict, and a considerable moral force contra the Confederacy, across the Blue.

The only thing that the US could have invaded was Canada, of course, but, as Lincoln said at the time of the Trent Affair, one war at a time.

To be a superpower would have required the ability to project commanding power well beyond its borders, and the US could only do that directly northward, if lucky. As a global superpower, we were a nascent regional one. For another 40 years or so.
 
Not sure about any such, but George I and George II were Lutheran and had no problem fitting right in.

George III was Anglican and fit in, likewise.
 
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