Pro-Abortion Gary Johnson to Seek Republican 2012 Nomination

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Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson announced in New Hampshire today that he will be seeking the Republican nomination for president, making him likely the only pro-abortion candidate in the field.

Johnson’s position as a liberal Republican who supports abortion contrasts him with some of the other potential presidential candidates — like Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee or Tim Pawlenty and Haley Barbour — who take strongly pro-life views and have lengthy pro-life records as governors themselves. Other potential candidates like Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum will all be running as pro-life candidates should they officially enter the race.

lifenews.com/2011/04/21/pro-abortion-gary-johnson-to-seek-republican-2012-nomination/
 
Please, tell me he’s not Catholic.

Interesting, is it not, the increasing number of Republicans who are pro abortion?

Evil never stops.
 
Gary Johnson is a long shot, but I’d hardly describe him as a “liberal Republican.” He is more of a hard-core libertarian in the Ron Paul mold.
 
Has it gone as far as that, that’s probably all he has to run on. He sees the numbers that are pro abortion and he’s just going to go a long with it because he wants to get in, not because it’s wrong. Does anybody stand up for their values anymore.
 
Barbkw said:
Please, tell me he’s not Catholic.

Interesting, is it not, the increasing number of Republicans who are pro abortion?
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Rudy Giuliani is Catholic, divorced and pro-choice.

"Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani seems to want to have it both ways when it comes to being Catholic. As he campaigns for president, the Republican frontrunner brings up his Catholic background occasionally but refuses to say whether or not he is a practicing Catholic.

When a voter asked this week if he is a ‘‘traditional, practicing Roman Catholic,’’ Giuliani insisted his faith should be private, according to the AP.

‘‘My religious affiliation, my religious practices and the degree to which I am a good or not-so-good Catholic, I prefer to leave to the priests,’’ the former New York mayor responded in Davenport, Iowa."

catholicnewsagency.com/news/giulianis_catholic_chameleon_campaign/
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Giuliani insisted his faith should be private
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If that is so, then why did he do such a poor job of keeping it private?
''My religious affiliation, my religious practices and the degree to which I am a good or not-so-good Catholic, I prefer to leave to the priests
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There’s nothing they can do about. It’s up to him. And it’s all over the internet how he did.

Let’s hope Johnson does better. There’s a lot of room for improvement over Giuliani.
 
TMC said:
Gary Johnson is a long shot, but I’d hardly describe him as a “liberal Republican.” He is more of a hard-core libertarian in the Ron Paul mold.
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There is a tradition that goes back a few years in the Republican party of small “l” libertarians who favor abortion rights and legalization of drugs. Barry Goldwater was an example of this type of Republican - he was for abortion rights - interesting that both come from the southwest. Of course being libertarian doesn’t automatically imply being for abortion rights - one can be a good libertarian and be pro-life by saying that the unborn child is a human being and deserving of human rights.

In pursuing the presidency, I would predict that Gary Johnson would be even less successful than Barry Goldwater.

Ishii
 
ishii said:
There is a tradition that goes back a few years in the Republican party of small “l” libertarians who favor abortion rights and legalization of drugs. Barry Goldwater was an example of this type of Republican - he was for abortion rights - interesting that both come from the southwest. Of course being libertarian doesn’t automatically imply being for abortion rights - one can be a good libertarian and be pro-life by saying that the unborn child is a human being and deserving of human rights.

In pursuing the presidency, I would predict that Gary Johnson would be even less successful than Barry Goldwater.
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Barry Goldwater was also for the rights of homosexuals. Libertarianism is pro choice, pro euthanasia, pro same sex marriage. Many conservatives don’t want to deal with that.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Barry Goldwater was also for the rights of homosexuals. Libertarianism is pro choice, pro euthanasia, pro same sex marriage. Many conservatives don’t want to deal with that.
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There’s an important distinction to be made here. Many people do not believe it is the role of the federal government to be involved in various issues, such as the ones you mentioned above. That is different than supporting the issue itself. It is curious that many people believe that unless one is actively asking the government to deny someone rights on these issues, that they are somehow “pro” whatever the issue is.
 
Christopher68 said:
There’s an important distinction to be made here. Many people do not believe it is the role of the federal government to be involved in various issues, such as the ones you mentioned above. That is different than supporting the issue itself.
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So, its up to individual volition. That is, a personal ‘choice’. OK, claim to be 'pro choice ’ here, that you believe government should stay out of such issues, and folks will say you favor infanticide.
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It is curious that many people believe that unless one is actively asking the government to deny someone rights on these issues, that they are somehow “pro” whatever the issue is.
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Curious, indeed.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Barry Goldwater was also for the rights of homosexuals. Libertarianism is pro choice, pro euthanasia, pro same sex marriage. Many conservatives don’t want to deal with that.
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I would agree that perhaps most libertarians are socially liberal because of their desire to keep government from interfering in the lives of people. However, I don’t think bein pro-choice is necessarily at odds with a libertarian philosophy - Ron and Rand Paul for example are pro-life as was the 2008 Libertarian candidate Bob Barr. Libertarians can make their case for their pro-life views with an appeal to the non-aggression principle. If one believes in the humanity of the unborn then one should be pro-life regardless of one’s stand on the political spectrum. While I have no data, I would wager that most libertarians equate pro-choice with being a good libertarian - “keeping the government out of our lives”.

Ishii
 
IMO there is only ONE thing Republicans have going for them that I even remotely like—their anti-abortion stance. If that isn’t even there, I REALLY wouldn’t vote Republican (not like nowdays with their anti-middle class anti-medicare anti-social security anti-union anti-everything that doesn’t help the weatlhy agenda I would vote for these elitists anyway! :p)
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Barry Goldwater was also for the rights of homosexuals. Libertarianism is pro choice, pro euthanasia, pro same sex marriage. Many conservatives don’t want to deal with that.
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I’ll deal with it.

I’ll stand next to a to a pro choice libertarian looking to do away with Roe V. Wade and get the Feds/Liberals out of my life way before I’ll ever vote for a Democrat on the national level.

What you don’t want to deal with is the fact a pro choice libertarian is still more pro life than a pro choice democrat. At least the libertarian understands that the conservative states would ban abortion almost immediately whereas your buddies want to make it as available as possible.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
I’ll deal with it.

I’ll stand next to a to a pro choice libertarian looking to do away with Roe V. Wade and get the Feds/Liberals out of my life way before I’ll ever vote for a Democrat on the national level.

What you don’t want to deal with is the fact a pro choice libertarian is still more pro life than a pro choice democrat. At least the libertarian understands that the conservative states would ban abortion almost immediately whereas your buddies want to make it as available as possible.
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Pro-choice libertarians are not looking to do away with Roe v Wade, certainly Gary Johnson is not looking to do away with Roe v Wade.
 
TMC said:
Pro-choice libertarians are not looking to do away with Roe v Wade, certainly Gary Johnson is not looking to do away with Roe v Wade.
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Umm, how are they libertarian then?
 
TMC said:
Pro-choice libertarians are not looking to do away with Roe v Wade, certainly Gary Johnson is not looking to do away with Roe v Wade.
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A true libertarian perspective:
Abortion on demand is the ultimate State tyranny; the State simply declares that certain classes of human beings are not persons, and therefore not entitled to the protection of the law. The State protects the “right” of some people to kill others, just as the courts protected the “property rights” of slave masters in their slaves. Moreover, by this method the State achieves a goal common to all totalitarian regimes: it sets us against each other, so that our energies are spent in the struggle between State-created classes, rather than in freeing all individuals from the State. Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder.
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Not a pro choice libertarian, but if a libertarian is true to his beliefs he should be against any federal laws that should be left to the states.
 
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