Pro-abortion Pelosi insults Catholic Faith

[rlg94086]

And sadly, many on our forum will continue to do the same thing with a straight face and tell us that they are obeying the tenets of the Church. As long as the powers that be allow such prominent Catholics to continue to receive Communion this will continue. And think of the scandal it brings on the Church from outside.

I would like to see some strong words from our priests, as our own did after the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. It was on a Friday, and our priest mentioned at the end of his Sunday homily that the Holy Day Masses were much smaller than the Sunday Masses. He said, “if you didn’t come to Mass on Friday and didn’t come to confession yesterday, then don’t add sacrilege to your sins by receiving the Eucharist.”

 

[fcbv]

Once more the Catholic teachings are attacked by a Catholic person. Please, my God, convert this congressist!

 

[mary_bobo]

I would like to see some strong words from our priests, as our own did after the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. It was on a Friday, and our priest mentioned at the end of his Sunday homily that the Holy Day Masses were much smaller than the Sunday Masses. He said, “if you didn’t come to Mass on Friday and didn’t come to confession yesterday, then don’t add sacrilege to your sins by receiving the Eucharist.”

Oh how I wish we had more priests like that.

 

[Joel_Ruiz-Dana]

Not only that, but University of San Francisco president Fr. Steve Privett S.J. is going to be giving the invocation at Pelosi’s swearing in as Speaker of the House. The swearing in will take place some time in the early to mid afternoon on January 4. It will be aired on CSPAN. inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=212034652545

 

[Dale_M]

The article wasn’t very clear on how they thought she intended “the use of a Catholic Mass”.

Yes, I had the same thought. Pundits think she is in the midst of a public relations makeover.

She is planning events that will highlight select parts of her personal life while muting her liberal voting record and ideology. “She’s showing all the ways she shares other women’s lives,” said Celinda Lake, a Democratic strategist.

azcentral.com/news/articles/1227pelosi-party1227.html

With that said, I don’t know that if the Archbishop “cancel any festivities at the Catholic college, particularly any attempt to honor Pelosi during Mass”, what that will accomplish (once again, the article didn’t go into any real details.

Trinity University is her alma mater and is hosting a “tea in the Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium for about 400 female politicians, supporters and activists”.

I don’t know what the readings are tomorrow but I think it’d be more effective if the priest giving the homily spoke out against abortion. THAT would be a better message than cancelling Mass.

Yes, that sounds like a very good idea. A press release by the Christian Defense Coalition states that the Mass is intended for the children of Darfur and Katrina. There is no reason to punish them for Pelosi’s sake.

 

[Riley259]

I would like to see some strong words from our priests, as our own did after the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. It was on a Friday, and our priest mentioned at the end of his Sunday homily that the Holy Day Masses were much smaller than the Sunday Masses. He said, “if you didn’t come to Mass on Friday and didn’t come to confession yesterday, then don’t add sacrilege to your sins by receiving the Eucharist.”

Oh how I wish the Church had more priests and bishops like that - this priest was simply telling the truth out of concern for people’s souls.

 

[iserve]

“*Yes, that sounds like a very good idea. A press release by the Christian Defense Coalition states that the Mass is intended for the children of Darfur and Katrina. There is no reason to punish them for Pelosi’s sake.”
*

What an arrogant people we are! WHo’s to say that the children of Katrina and Darfur are not better off than some black-hearted politician in the US? Punish them that this person doesn’t pray for THEM? In their misery, the prayers are more likely to reach God’s ears if it’s the other way around !

 

[DRIVING_BEAR]

I think some other important points are being overlooked.
Not only is Pelosi pro-abortion she is also pro stem cell research, and for gay marrage.
with this record I think she should not even be allowed in the church building until she repents .

 

[Moneo]

And yet, I was just listening to a podcast of an interview with Cardinal George for the At Issue segment on WBBM. He was asked about that (refusing Communion to pro-choice Catholic pols) and said that this was not a unanimous position amongst all the Bishops which is why the US Conference of Catholic Bishops had not come up with a statement.

This makes me FURIOUS!

I am tired of these dodges on the part of our bishops (and I will certainly be praying for Cardinal George this afternoon when I offer my rosary)! IMHO, this smacks of moral cowardice. God forgive me if I have sinned in judgement…

Hiding behind the USCCB is a convenient dodge for taking action yourself, my dear Cardinal. Take action. If the bishop of the diocese next to yours doesn’t agree, TOUGH LUCK. YOU have been given Apostolic Authority. YOU have a moral obligation to instruct, form, govern and correct the faithful in your archdiocese.

The USCCB is NOT an authoritative teaching body… it is a convenient little forum for the bishops to come together and address issues of common concern, but its decisions do not have any binding force on an individual bishops freedom and responsibility as shepherds of their diocese.

 

[vern_humphrey]

And yet, I was just listening to a podcast of an interview with Cardinal George for the At Issue segment on WBBM. He was asked about that (refusing Communion to pro-choice Catholic pols) and said that this was not a unanimous position amongst all the Bishops which is why the US Conference of Catholic Bishops had not come up with a statement.

How many more millions of children must die before they make up their minds?

 

[mary_bobo]

How many more millions of children must die before they make up their minds?

Perhaps they are being PC.

 

[BlestOne]

My response is that maybe it is time to inform the bishops that we desire to be lead. I suggest that a nice email to the USCCB telling them that we desire that our bishops take a stand on such topics would be appropriate. After that we have to turn it over to God. I don’t mean do nothing, just as it concerns USCCB, we should pray for them to receive the guidance of the HS and rule on this. As far as protecting innocent life… we should never give that up at the lowest level, praying for them, helping at womens shelters, talking to those faced with unwanted pregnancies…

 

[vern_humphrey]

My response is that maybe it is time to inform the bishops that we desire to be lead. I suggest that a nice email to the USCCB telling them that we desire that our bishops take a stand on such topics would be appropriate. After that we have to turn it over to God. I don’t mean do nothing, just as it concerns USCCB, we should pray for them to receive the guidance of the HS and rule on this. As far as protecting innocent life… we should never give that up at the lowest level, praying for them, helping at womens shelters, talking to those faced with unwanted pregnancies…

Under canon law, we have a right to do just that – to ask for pastoral guidance and leadership. Right now, it appears there are two Catholic Churches – one is for ordinary people, like the remarried Catholics who sit in the pews when the rest go up for communion, and the other for the rich and powerful – the politicians who support abortion, gay marriage and so on.

We should expect our bishops to lead us in praying the rosary at abortion clinics – and to order all priests in the diocese to do the same at least once a year. Let each pastor take it in turn once a year, leading his parishoners to kneel on the sidewalk and pray.

As a wiseman once said, “If leadership were shoes, the American Bishops would be naked from the neck down.”

 

[Elzee]

My response is that maybe it is time to inform the bishops that we desire to be lead. I suggest that a nice email to the USCCB telling them that we desire that our bishops take a stand on such topics would be appropriate. After that we have to turn it over to God. I don’t mean do nothing, just as it concerns USCCB, we should pray for them to receive the guidance of the HS and rule on this. As far as protecting innocent life… we should never give that up at the lowest level, praying for them, helping at womens shelters, talking to those faced with unwanted pregnancies…

Hello BlestOne! You are in an orthodox diocese fairly close to Chicago. Do you know the thoughts of your Bishop on this? Maybe if other Bishops close to Chicago known for their orthodoxy would stand up, Cardinal George (and others) would follow suit. Too bad he isn’t the one leading the pack, though…

 

[rascal_one]

Sigh…why dont the Catholic Bishops just switch over to the Church of Liberalism?

 

[iserve]

The UCCB is far too busy protecting us Catholics from liturgical abuses and bad music to worry about morality.
Tsk tsk.

 

[BlestOne]

Hello BlestOne! You are in an orthodox diocese fairly close to Chicago. Do you know the thoughts of your Bishop on this? Maybe if other Bishops close to Chicago known for their orthodoxy would stand up, Cardinal George (and others) would follow suit. Too bad he isn’t the one leading the pack, though…

Are you kidding… we are one of the best diocese in the US! We lost one of our bishops to the east coast when the priest abuse scandals hit… I think they sent him to NJ. As much as I am sad to lose one of our own, I recognize that it was a good move to send the more conservative bishops towards the coasts because they are needed there.

Elzee you should try reading some of the things our bishop has written… God Bless him, here is a quote from his Festival messege in 2005:
The 1960’s are long over and in this, the twenty-first century of the Christian era, all our
schools, religious education programs, and Newman Centers must, more than ever before, fully
embrace the revealed truth of our religion. Wherever necessary, we should decisively put behind
us the days of watering down Catholic doctrine or encouraging disobedience to moral
imperatives. A religion unable to insist upon its foundational beliefs, especially in its own
programs of education and faith formation, has clearly reached a stage of decadence. It would be
incapable of maintaining its own identity, as it would be unable to even discipline creedal dissent.
Such a church would not and could not claim the time and loyalty of its members. Catholic
Christianity, however, must always boldly proclaim the fullness of Divine Revelation.
And this from 2006:
Priests in our diocese report that many children, even some in our Catholic schools,
confess missing Mass. Now those under the age of sixteen certainly do not drive cars, so
apparently the same parents who almost daily chauffeur their offspring to and from every
conceivable form of bodily athleticism, seem decidedly less concerned about the health of their
childrens immortal souls. Obviously in their own lives, they have somehow come to minimalize
the essential importance of divine worship.

Talk about feeding his flock!!! I love this man!

You can also check out my latest blog involving a visit to my pastor: Mary’s Blog

 

[Jared123]

Unfortunantly most of the U.S. Bishops are lacking a backbone and wouldn’t thinking of standing up to a politician like Pelosi. We see this all the time with the Kennedys and John Kerry. They go to communion all the time while publically standing up for same sex marriage, abortion, embryonic stem cell research etc. I have Protestant friends and family members who constantly make fun of the Catholic Church because of such people as Ted Kennedy.

Nancy Pelosi should be denied communion. The Archbishop should meet with Pelosi and tell her that she must make a public comment denouncing abortion. If she doesn’t do this than she will be denied communion, easy as that. John Kerry met with the Archbishop of Washinghton D.C. during the 2004 elections. Of course Kerry said “we had a great meeting”, but never denounced his stance on abortion. Some Bishops such as the bishop of St. Louis, (who I can’t think of his name), then publically stated that Kerry would be denied communion in his diocese. The bishop of Colorado Springs not only said this, but went a step farther and said to vote for a pro-choice candidate is a sin. Both are great Bishops, something we are sorely lacking as a country.

 

[Elzee]

Are you kidding… we are one of the best diocese in the US! We lost one of our bishops to the east coast when the priest abuse scandals hit… I think they sent him to NJ. As much as I am sad to lose one of our own, I recognize that it was a good move to send the more conservative bishops towards the coasts because they are needed there.

Elzee you should try reading some of the things our bishop has written… God Bless him, here is a quote from his Festival messege in 2005:
The 1960’s are long over and in this, the twenty-first century of the Christian era, all our
schools, religious education programs, and Newman Centers must, more than ever before, fully
embrace the revealed truth of our religion. Wherever necessary, we should decisively put behind
us the days of watering down Catholic doctrine or encouraging disobedience to moral
imperatives. A religion unable to insist upon its foundational beliefs, especially in its own
programs of education and faith formation, has clearly reached a stage of decadence. It would be
incapable of maintaining its own identity, as it would be unable to even discipline creedal dissent.
Such a church would not and could not claim the time and loyalty of its members. Catholic
Christianity, however, must always boldly proclaim the fullness of Divine Revelation.
And this from 2006:
Priests in our diocese report that many children, even some in our Catholic schools,
confess missing Mass. Now those under the age of sixteen certainly do not drive cars, so
apparently the same parents who almost daily chauffeur their offspring to and from every
conceivable form of bodily athleticism, seem decidedly less concerned about the health of their
childrens immortal souls. Obviously in their own lives, they have somehow come to minimalize
the essential importance of divine worship.

Talk about feeding his flock!!! I love this man!

You can also check out my latest blog involving a visit to my pastor: Mary’s Blog

Oh I hope you didn’t misunderstand me! I remember you talking wonderfully about your Bishop. He seems like the type would might take a strong public stand on this issue and my hope was if he and others near Chicago (especially in Illinois) did, then perhaps Cardinal George would be encouraged to do it also.

 

[emsvetich]

I was one of many who I am sure sent a letter to the Archbishop asking for his intervention at the mass at Trinity Cathedral on January 3rd. I noticed this morning that the news channels showed Pelosi and a group of Democratic representatives entering an ecumenical service. This was the third religious service that Pelosi had made a big deal about attending to show that she and her followers were in step with mainstream Americans. Does anyone know if she was permitted to receive Holy Communion at Trinity?

I am interested if the Archbishop stood up for Orthodoxy or let political correctness win again.