Pro-abortion Pelosi insults Catholic Faith

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It’s only possible if you are a wealthy Democrat. Wealthy Republicans are evil. :rolleyes: 😃
mary_bobo said:
Mrs. Pelosi grew up in a very political family in Baltimore. Her father was mayor forever. Then she married very, very well and moved to California. She got into politics rather late as she did raise her kids first. Like so many others, she claims to know the plight of those less fortunate, I’m not sure that is possible when you are very wealthy.
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mary_bobo said:
I’m sure a percentage of abortions are because of poverty. But my experience has been different. While working in Medical Records in a big hospital, there were many abortions performed. The ones I saw were not due to poverty, but to the inconvenience of having a child at that time. Some of them were repeat patients. Many of those were paid by Medicaid. I don’t want my tax money paying for abortions. I have not said anything about the new Speaker personally, but I have been highly critical of those politicians who speak in favor of abortion, stem cell research, euthanasia, etal. The ones who claim to be Catholics are scandalizing the Church by these very public proclamations. It has gotten to the point that judges who might possibly be pro-life are turned away. And now that Senator Leahy, proclaimed Catholic, has the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee and he has always said that no nominee who does not believe in a woman’s right to choose will not be voted out of committee.
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No abortions are performed because of poverty. A pregnant woman, however poor she may be, can find support and aid.

I have had people who claim to be Catholics say things like, “Some girls have no alternative except abortion.” I challenge anyone to cite me a real-world case where an expectant mother has “no alterantive.”
 
vern_humphrey said:
No abortions are performed because of poverty. A pregnant woman, however poor she may be, can find support and aid.

I have had people who claim to be Catholics say things like, “Some girls have no alternative except abortion.” I challenge anyone to cite me a real-world case where an expectant mother has “no alterantive.”
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As a matter of logic you are correct. There is always an alternative. As a matter of reason I don’t know if there is always an acceptable alternative, which is what I think is usually what people mean when they say “no alternative.”
 
It is not true that poverty alone is the major reason for women seeking abortions. The AGI sites that most have more than one reason. The following shows that it is one of 3 rather broadly stated reasons for seeking an abortion in the US. These are the statistics from the Alan Guttmacher Inst. which is the research arm of PPP:
“Most U.S. women cite more than one factor contributing to their decision to have an abortion: Almost three-quarters say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about three-quarters say they cannot afford to have a child; and almost half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.”
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With most abortions committed for more than one reason, it follows that solutions would have to be available for each to prevent abortions when you look only at that segment of it.
When you consider that women make these decisions without adequate knowledge of the physical, emotional and mental sequale, you can begin to see the ugly character of the abortion industry.

Politicians like Pelosi see abortion as a solution to many of the problems that women complain of when they enter an abortion clinic. They are not interested in real solutions or even in the women themselves or they would never turn a woman over to the ugly hand of the abortionist. The abortion industry destroys both the child and the woman in the process and then hands them or the tax payer the bill. What we need to recognize is that there continues to be “bills to pay” down the road for these women and in turn for us.

What those like Pelosi don’t want you to see is the aftermath that is common for the woman who is then spit out on the street and the innocent life that is left for trash as the abortionist cashes his check. The after effects of abortion are not given any concern by people like her. And many see her as a role model for women. To what low have we sunk?

Make no mistake. The abortion industry is big money and with the help of many so called “Catholic” politicians and voters, they will continue to grid up human flesh and expect us to look the other way. And why shouldn’t they expect that? That’s pretty much what we as a society have done.

Shame on every Catholic who continues to look the other way. Pray for us all to grow spines.
 
OriginalJS said:
As a matter of logic you are correct. There is always an alternative. As a matter of reason I don’t know if there is always an acceptable alternative, which is what I think is usually what people mean when they say “no alternative.”
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Can you elaborate on that? I don’t see how ending a human life is something that would be a “reasonable” alternative. I think this is a matter of ignorance, not reason. I don’t mean that in a mean way, just that the person who makes such a choice is sadly either misinformed or uninformed as to the value of the human life they are carrying.

Giving up the child for adoption is always a reasonable alternative to abortion.
 
OriginalJS said:
As a matter of logic you are correct. There is always an alternative. As a matter of reason I don’t know if there is always an acceptable alternative, which is what I think is usually what people mean when they say “no alternative.”
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There is an alternative that is worse than the deliberate, pre-mediated killing of a wholly innocent human being?
 
Pelosi is pro-abortion.

Pelosi is for the children.

If you read those two sentences really fast, it comes out: Abortion is for the children.

What’s wrong with that statement?
 
Al_Masetti said:
Pelosi is pro-abortion.

Pelosi is for the children.

If you read those two sentences really fast, it comes out: Abortion is for the children.

What’s wrong with that statement?
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The first – that she is pro-abortion – is the only one that’s true.
 
francesco920 said:
Archbishop: No plans to discipline Pelosi

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=8397

Pretty sad if you ask me:(
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Even if he doesn’t agree with denying her Communion, he should have the guts to publically denounce the actions of Pelosi and other Catholic politicians who support abortion, embryonic stem-celll research, etc. and make it clear that these people are not acting in accordance with their obligations and responsibilities as Catholics, are not in-line with the faith they profess, and are placing their souls in jeopardy. Catholics need to know this - what a perfect teaching opportunity - not to mention an opportunity to potentially save some souls.

***Why are so many of our Bishops afraid to stand up for the Catholic faith in situations such as these? * ** It is so pathetic. If Wuerl has done this, I apologize, but I don’t recall seeing any strong statments from Wuerl.
 
I would like to add my two cents on the question of communion for pelosi

I think the SF area CC would be wise to reread Matt:18:15-17

Matt18:15 More over if your brother sins againts you , go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you , you have gained your brother.
Matt 18:16 but if he will not here you take with you one or two more that " by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established"
Matt 18:17 and if he refuses to here them ,tell it to the church. ******but if refuses even to here the church ,LET HIM BE TO YOU LIKE A HEATHEN AND A TAX COLLECTOR
 
vern_humphrey said:
No abortions are performed because of poverty. A pregnant woman, however poor she may be, can find support and aid.

I have had people who claim to be Catholics say things like, “Some girls have no alternative except abortion.” I challenge anyone to cite me a real-world case where an expectant mother has “no alterantive.”
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The alternatives are that the person seeking an abortion would have to face the responsibility of their actions, have the baby and put it up for adoption. But then everyone would know and we sure can’t have that. It would interrupt careers, bring shame on the person and/or family, or leave the person a single mother. All this is due to lack of taking responsibility for our actions. Society promotes having excuses for everything, not matter how wrong. There is no accountability anymore.
 
Sunday night, January 20th, on EWTN Sunday Night Live], Father Benedict Groeschel had has his guests two women who were given (almost pushed) into having abortions. Yet they had their babies.

Very inspiring.

The program will be repeated this morning (Monday) and at other times during the week.
 
When I said that there was no acceptable alternative above, I should have said, “acceptable to those involved.”

As to why Speaker of the House Pelosi won’t be disciplined, well, it is because she is too politically powerful to be disciplined.

I received the Catholic Spirit, the diocesan newspaper here in St. Paul and Minneapolis, today and it chock full of articles reflecting the involvement of the church in political activities. In the twenty page paper, I found ten pages that contained no political discussions. Three front page headlines are “St.Thomas Hosts Binational Immigration Conference,” “Legislature 2007 - Closing the affordable housing gap,” 'Abortion opponents march for life,"

Face it, you don’t get heavily involved in national and state politics and then go throwing rocks at the people in power.
 
What would happen if a Catholic at a Mass where she attended preceded to shout like a voice crying in the wilderness for her to repent and petioned the Lord to have mercy on the Catholic Church for allowing the sacriledge of Our Lord?

Would the Catholic Church request that such a person be arrested?

Would Jesus be more upset at the person for interrupting the Mass or would He be more upset at the Church for allowing His Body, Soul, Blood, and Divinity to be sacriledged?
 
Jerry-Jet said:
What would happen if a Catholic at a Mass where she attended preceded to shout like a voice crying in the wilderness for her to repent and petioned the Lord to have mercy on the Catholic Church for allowing the sacriledge of Our Lord?

Would the Catholic Church request that such a person be arrested?

Would Jesus be more upset at the person for interrupting the Mass or would He be more upset at the Church for allowing His Body, Soul, Blood, and Divinity to be sacriledged?
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This very thing just happened. but it was a deacon during the Homily.He pointed out the anti-Catholic voting record of a congressman in attendance. the congressman walkedout and now instead of a pat on the back the deacon is being publicly reprimanded by the Bishop.There’s a thread started on this incident. It has the word deacon in the title.
 
Franciscan said:
This very thing just happened. but it was a deacon during the Homily.He pointed out the anti-Catholic voting record of a congressman in attendance. the congressman walkedout and now instead of a pat on the back the deacon is being publicly reprimanded by the Bishop.There’s a thread started on this incident. It has the word deacon in the title.
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Good grief! This is an example by the bishop of “do as I say, not as I do”. It makes it hard for those of us who were away from the Church for years to realize what has happened in our absence. We are allowing political persuations to get in the way of church doctrine. Sad.
 
Franciscan said:
This very thing just happened. but it was a deacon during the Homily.He pointed out the anti-Catholic voting record of a congressman in attendance. the congressman walkedout and now instead of a pat on the back the deacon is being publicly reprimanded by the Bishop.There’s a thread started on this incident. It has the word deacon in the title.
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Here is the aforementioned thread: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=130459
 
Just a thought: Is Pelosi insulting our Catholic Faith or her bishop who is doing nothing about it?
 
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