How about if you take your argument and substitute some other heinous action by the members of our society such as incest, pedophilia, etc. Do you believe that the fact that these are illegal decrease the incidence of them occuring? Could you see how making them a choice to be3 had by those so inlined could increase the incidence of them occuring?
Hmm…Let me think…
Why won’t my wish of no unwanted pregnancies/unwanted babies never come true? Isn’t that part of the goal of outlawing abortion?
No The goal of outlawing abortion is stop the slaughter of the innocents. Being “unwanted” is such a subjective term it could be used to jusify killing anyone on the face of the earth.
You’re right. Making something illegal doesn’t necessarily reduce the number of occurances of the illegal activity. That’s why I see that the immediately outlaw of abortion won’t get the end result that I want. Sure, it will significantly reduce the number of abortions performed in the immediate aftermath of the restructuring of the law but what about years down the road? Won’t people have simply turned to other illegal means to have these performed? That’s why I think more than just making abortion illegal is necessary to stop abortions. Society needs adjustment as well. So will it work better/faster if society adjusts prior to making abortion illegal or afterwards? I don’t know. Erring on the side of society adjusting after-the fact is the better course of action for unborn children, sure, but in the mean-time (while abortion is still legal) what are we doing to change society?
Oh, my dear, my dear.
Good point. Unwanted is a very subjective term that has caused problems in the past (extreme example is unwanted Jews being killed by the Nazis). But couldn’t a part of outlawing abortion be to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies that were caused from pre-marital sex? If so, what’s the best way to ‘combat’ this problem? What can we, as a society, do to reduce this number? That’s what I’m getting at with wanting to reduce this number through societal changes during a time when abortion is still legal.
You’re right. I did originally say unwanted/unhealthy and then mistyped in the next post. It should have said “Why won’t my wish of no unwanted pregnancies/unhealthy babies never come true?”
If you want to help cut down on the number of abortions while it is still legal go volunteer at you local CPC(like many of us in this thread have). Make sure you representatitves know you will not vote for them is they support abortion on demand and above all never fall ino the trap of ever justifying or rationalizing any abortion.
You’re considering crossing several lines that designate absolute morality - that separate us from beasts (animals). Getting rid of the runt(s) of litter is something I witnessed first hand when I had to serve as a lab tech and care for a colony of white mice one summer. If the “mothers” had too many offspring, they ate the smallest (as in, why waste the protein?)
i don’t think what your asking is wrong.i too think the same as you.Say for example you have a married couple. They already have three kids.The mom is pregnant with her fourth child.The first 3 pregnancies were normal,however,there is a serious problem with this one.The woman could even lose her life if it continues.I’m not suggesting getting rid of the runts of the liter. I’m saying, in response to the answer posed above about not knowing God’s reasons for doing things, i.e., allowing for unhealthy children, when do we take our medical knowledge and change what God has given? For example, God created a child born with a clef lip. Our medical knowledge allowed us to learn how and eventually succeed at fixing this clef lip. So at what point do we draw the line where we say we’ll modify what God has done and we won’t modify what God has done? I guess this is a slightly rhetorical question as no difinitive answer could be set, but if we could use our medical technology to learn from and eventually be able to succeed at removing some genetic malformities (that are currently a reason why some women are chosing to abort), shouldn’t we?
But don’t we make medical intervention decisions for others now? We choose to put premies on ventilators to try to save their lives and we take people off ventilators to let them die? What am I misunderstanding? I do agree that God allows many things that we cannot possible understand. But working through possible answers is sometimes helpful.
I think the ‘problem’ I have is that I’ve seen some women who have desperately wanted a child find out that their baby has developed with a major genetic malformity and the agony they’ve gone through when presented with the option to abort. I know many posters here have mentioned seeing woman abort with what appears to be no guilt, and I’ve seen that as well. So I see the agony and I see the apparent lack of guilt and I don’t think I see things as black and white as other posters do.
The doctors say that abortion is the only way to save the lady.So after much agonizing,they the couple decide to go through with this after talking to various doctors and specialists.
Do I think they are bad people,no.Why,because they already have three children who need their mother in their lives,especially if the kids are under the age of 14 or 15. They gave it a great deal of thought,and they were concerned about their other kids and the impact her death especially on very young ones would have.
It was a very hard choice to make.
**A someone who has been pregnant and is now raising a two year old I can appreciate how incredible difficult that situation would be. But having been pregnant and having a fierce love for my baby from the moment I knew of her existence, killing another one, for whatever reason, could never ever be an option for me. Just as I could not consent to the murder of my two year old. My child is my child is my child. I would never murder any child, inside of me or out, sick or healthy, doomed to death or destined for a long and healthy life.
Great sign - and good for you.
There's no question that the only ones who gain immeasurably from abortion are those who pick up a paycheck for their involvement for providing and/or supporting the "procedure."
Aborted women don't gain; they've lost a child and an opportunity of growing into life as a caring and more selfless adult. The fathers don't gain. Some of them never even heard there was a pregnancy. Grandparents don't gain; they've lost the best promise for their own joyful futures. Siblings don't gain; they learn (eventually) that Mama killed my baby brother or sister - and Mama could have killed me too. (My mama?!!) Society doesn't gain; when any life is de-valued, all life is de-valued. However, staff who offer abortions do experience financial gain.
It's a business and it yields financial profits.Some folks, even other women, won’t accept the fact that to you, to me, to many others, the absolute of life itself is the central absolute! Yes, killing a 2 yr-old is the same as killing a pre-term baby or a 6 wk-old fetus