latae sententiae means automatic without further action by Church authorities.
Is there anything that states how one can then get “un-excommunicated” i.e. what is the process for getting back into the church?
If a woman has an abortion she is automatically excommunicated. If she repents all she needs to do is to go to Confession and get absolution.
Do you have a reference for this?
Well, Christ died for all of our sins. The debt has already been paid.Do you have a reference for this?
It doesn’t seem like it would/should be that “easy”. Let’s say someone murders another. They’re not excommunicated, or are they? I’ve never heard not. Yet, “all” they have to do is seek and receive confession and absolution; they are never excommunicated. The woman who has an aboriton gets excommunicated, but has the same route of restoration back into the church?
Seems like there should be more to it.
Yes, of course, as far as the sacrament is concerned. What I was addressing is the excommunication issue. If a woman is automatically excommunicated for procuring an abortion, is she automatically re-communicated after reconciliation and where is this documented?
It was but is not nowDo you have a reference for this?
It doesn’t seem like it would/should be that “easy”. Let’s say someone murders another. They’re not excommunicated, or are they? I’ve never heard not. Yet, “all” they have to do is seek and receive confession and absolution; they are never excommunicated. The woman who has an aboriton gets excommunicated, but has the same route of restoration back into the church?
Seems like there should be more to it.
The excommunication must be lifted by her bishop. However, in most/all dioceses the bishop has delegated that power to the priests. Therefore the priest will lift the excommunication at the same time he grants absolution.
And too many of those oxymorons too!:yup:
The pro-choice Catholic may believe that abortion is morally wrong but that it is wrong to use the law to limit their ability to kill their unwanted off-spring. Even many bishops, I fear, hase bought into this notion. IAC, many, many Catholics have been taught that it is wrong for Catholics to lobby for stricter abortion law because they feel they don’t have the right to compel others not to have abortions. Except that law is compulsion. Pro-abortion groups do not hesitate to try to obtains laws that compel Catholic hospitals and physicians to do abortions. They define an abortion as simply another medical procedure, like cutting out a tumor.
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
Please document both conditions; it would seem neither would meet the church standards of moral sin.
No, they do not. This is because of what “pro-choice” means between different groups. There are two camps out there with two definitions. If you talk to many who identify as “pro-choice”, they want as few abortions as possible, but have a different approach in how to minimize it. That is consistent with Church teachings. Both sides want the same goal but have two different ways to go about it.
It is not consistent with Catholic teachings to allow abortions in any circumstance. The group you describe is the lesser evil, but they are certainly not in line with Church teaching.