Pro-Choice folks, what are your reasons for supporting abortion?

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People should not be forced to look at violently murdered baby.
Carjack,

You make this assertion as if this is happening somewhere. Well prove it. Where is this happening? If there are protesters at the abortion mill and you can’t avoid them, then avert your gaze. No one is being forced to look at anything.
 
I AM NOT PRO-ABORTION. I AM PRO-LIFE AND YOU ARE EXTREMELY IGNORANT. I KNOW WHAT ABORTION IS AND SHOWING GRAPHIC PICS ARE EXTREME. WE ARE CIVILIZED SOCIETY WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE GRAPHIC PICS FOR A POINT TO BE MADE.
Just to clarify: someone theorized that I was some sort of strawman for mapleoak. That’s ridiculous.

I am OK with people having abortions in the first trimester. When you get to the third trimester I think it becomes pretty unacceptable.
 
Please start a new thread in apologetics to address this.
No mapleoak. You want people to look at things they don’t want to see? Well, you look at something you don’t want to see: your own Bible is prescribing abortion as a remedy against infidelity.

Hard for you to take?
 
When were any images “shoved in the faces of pre-schoolers?”
YES. Good grief…what is with you all here? Do you actually read what people post or do you just fill in what you want it to say?

The use of those images has it’s time and place, and as Mizer has pointed out-they are most often used in dealing with older children and adults. However, that does not negate the reality that there are fringe groups who will use them without considering the age of their audience. One of my close friends has a child with Down’s-how would she explain such images to her?

I’m guessing now you’re all going to call me Pro abortion-which would come as quite a shock to the Pro life charities I volunteer with and donate to.
 
carjack, you couldn’t be more wrong:
The images are inappropriate. Sounds like pictures are your only method of protesting.
Abortion is inappropriate, not the pictures. And the pictures are not our only method of protestesting but they are our only method of changing the minds and hearts of those who call themselves “pro-choice.” You call yourself pro-life. How can we believe that by what you are saying on this thread, let alone what you have said on other threads? Your words betray you.
 
Just to clarify: someone theorized that I was some sort of strawman for mapleoak. That’s ridiculous.

I am OK with people having abortions in the first trimester. When you get to the third trimester I think it becomes pretty unacceptable.
:tsktsk: It is not Ok to take a life regardless of how long it has been in the womb. It is cruel. I don’t agree with anyone calling each other names though.
 
carjack, you couldn’t be more wrong:

Abortion is inappropriate, not the pictures. And the pictures are not our only method of protestesting but they are our only method of changing the minds and hearts of those who call themselves “pro-choice.” You call yourself pro-life. How can we believe that by what you are saying on this thread, let alone what you have said on other threads? Your words betray you.
Abortion and the abortion pics ARE inappropriate. The only reason that you are saying that I am not pro-life is because I don’t agree with graphic images. Read the other thread more carefully.
 
Graphic pictures are not extreme. The procedure they depict is extreme.

Civilized societies don’t kill their young.
GRAPHIC PICTURES ARE EXTREME AND YOU ARE AN EXTREMIST. You just admitted it. Move to another country and you will see the difference with this “uncivilized” society and others. Those pics do not belong in public.
 
No mapleoak. You want people to look at things they don’t want to see? Well, you look at something you don’t want to see: your own Bible is prescribing abortion as a remedy against infidelity.

Hard for you to take?
The reason to take this to apologetics or the sacred scripture forum is you are seeking to understand a scripture passage which is off topic for this thread. It is not a reason for supporting abortion.
 
The pics are in poor taste. Their are children here. I do not see a lack of them. The ones that are here are being traumatized. Do not criticized my parenting skills. There is a way to educate the woman who are considering abortion without being vile and disgusting. Or is that the only way you know how to communicate an idea or give out information?
It is neither vile or disgusting to educate women with facts, or children for that matter.
I am sorry you can’t seem to get beyond that.
I would have rather have seen those photos when I was young so that I could have grown up understanding the horror of abortion too, however, I didn’t even know it existed when I was growing up.
 
:tsktsk: It is not Ok to take a life regardless of how long it has been in the womb. It is cruel. I don’t agree with anyone calling each other names though.
I don’t have a problem with a first trimester abortion. Nature certainly aborts vast quantities of embryos during that time. I don’t agree with the old saw that “every sperm is sacred,” or embryo, as it were in this case.

The Bible doesn’t even agree with the notion of personhood for the unborn child. It offers no compensation for unborn children that are miscarried because of violence for instance. And Numbers 5:11–31 speaks its own clear language.
 
YES. Good grief…what is with you all here? Do you actually read what people post or do you just fill in what you want it to say?
Please document that graphic images were “shoved in the faces of pre-schoolers.” Show that this literally happened, and is not just hyperbole.
The use of those images has it’s time and place, and as Mizer has pointed out-they are most often used in dealing with older children and adults. However, that does not negate the reality that there are fringe groups who will use them without considering the age of their audience. One of my close friends has a child with Down’s-how would she explain such images to her?
By maintaining a calm demenor and answering the child’s questions truthfully, of course!
I’m guessing now you’re all going to call me Pro abortion-which would come as quite a shock to the Pro life charities I volunteer with and donate to.
You couldn’t resist accusing me of something I have never done, could you?
 
I’m still trying to figure out how someone who thinks that graphic images of aborted babies shouldn’t be shoved in the face of pre-schoolers is automatically Pro Abortion.
Fitswimmer,

perhaps you have missed some of the posts. No one is saying that carjack is pro-abort simply because he objects to the pictures being “shoved in the face of pre-schoolers.” We all would object to that. It is a false premise. I believe you started this by saying that some pro-lifers, protesting on a street corner actually approached your car and got close enough that your god-child could clearly see the picture and discern that what he was looking at was a dead and bloody baby. That has been put in a nutsell and people (carjack) are now saying that pro-lifers make a regular habit of “shoving the pictures into the faces of pre-schoolers.” This, of course, is not happening anywhere, that I know of and the pro-lifers on the board have condemned such activity if it is occuring. The other pro-abort on the thread right now is SFTor and he keeps saying the he objects to billboards along the highway that contain the pictures, even though that too is false. There are no such billboards. It doesn’t work. It costs money to put up billboards and any pro-life billboard is destroyed by the pro-aborts within the first 24 hours so this is just a waste of money which pro-life organizations have precious little of anyway.

I gotta run. We are calling carjack pro-abort because of other things he has said on this thread and on other threads. No pro-lifer would object to the use of pictures if they are used appropriately and are shown to be effective in changing the minds of those who call themselves “pro-choice.” Carjack objects, and vehemently. Ergo, because of other things he/she has said, we think he/she is pro-abort." We do have the right to choose what we think. Choice is our right. It is all perfectly legal.

Later.
 
GRAPHIC PICTURES ARE EXTREME AND YOU ARE AN EXTREMIST.
No they are not extreme. The procedures they represent are extreme. There is a big difference between the two. I would be happy to explain the difference if needed.
You just admitted it.
Admitted what?
Move to another country and you will see the difference with this “uncivilized” society and others. Those pics do not belong in public.
Simply stated again. Civilized societies don’t massacre their young.
 
:tsktsk: It is not Ok to take a life regardless of how long it has been in the womb. It is cruel. I don’t agree with anyone calling each other names though.
But you did call another poster a “terrorist.”
 
It is neither vile or disgusting to educate women with facts, or children for that matter.
I am sorry you can’t seem to get beyond that.
I would have rather have seen those photos when I was young so that I could have grown up understanding the horror of abortion too, however, I didn’t even know it existed when I was growing up.
I understand what you are saying. I still disagree with the pics. They are graphic and gross. I think that people are intelligent enough to get the concept of abortion without having to resort to graphic and violent pics. Because of this, I have been called all kinds of things. How is that helping anything?
 
Fitswimmer,

perhaps you have missed some of the posts. No one is saying that carjack is pro-abort simply because he objects to the pictures being “shoved in the face of pre-schoolers.” We all would object to that. It is a false premise. I believe you started this by saying that some pro-lifers, protesting on a street corner actually approached your car and got close enough that your god-child could clearly see the picture and discern that what he was looking at was a dead and bloody baby. That has been put in a nutsell and people (carjack) are now saying that pro-lifers make a regular habit of “shoving the pictures into the faces of pre-schoolers.” This, of course, is not happening anywhere, that I know of and the pro-lifers on the board have condemned such activity if it is occuring. The other pro-abort on the thread right now is SFTor and he keeps saying the he objects to billboards along the highway that contain the pictures, even though that too is false. There are no such billboards. It doesn’t work. It costs money to put up billboards and any pro-life billboard is destroyed by the pro-aborts within the first 24 hours so this is just a waste of money which pro-life organizations have precious little of anyway.

I gotta run. We are calling carjack pro-abort because of other things he has said on this thread and on other threads. No pro-lifer would object to the use of pictures if they are used appropriately and are shown to be effective in changing the minds of those who call themselves “pro-choice.” Carjack objects, and vehemently. Ergo, because of other things he/she has said, we think he/she is pro-abort." We do have the right to choose what we think. Choice is our right. It is all perfectly legal.

Later.
Well I am not pro-abortion and I would appreciate it if you would not spread lies about me. thank you:) They are saying I am pro-abort because I don’t agree with pics.
 
It is neither vile or disgusting to educate women with facts, or children for that matter.
I am sorry you can’t seem to get beyond that.
I would have rather have seen those photos when I was young so that I could have grown up understanding the horror of abortion too, however, I didn’t even know it existed when I was growing up.
I can’t get beyond it either. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would defend showing graphic photos to young children-no matter what the pictures were. If we were talking about anti-war protesters shoving photos of dead soldiers in the car windows where young children were sitting I would be objecting just as strongly.

There are appropriate audiences for such things.
 
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