Pro-Choice folks, what are your reasons for supporting abortion?

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carjack said:
Children are being traumatized and this is a fact, which means that it is true. It is not an opinion.
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Yes it is an opinion.
You opinion is false.
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My opinion is that it is the parents reaction to them that causes their children trauma and it is true. Since when does your opinion prohibit those who display graphic images the freedom to do so?
 
MIZER said:
Carjack,

The pictures are not in poor taste. That nasty taste in your mouth should be there because of what the pictures depict, not the pictures themselves and not because pro-lifers use the pictures. The pictures work, especially as they are used by CBR because the juxtaposition of the abortion pictures right next to more readily recognized form of genocide, force people to engage their brain and think. This thinking process causes people to change thier minds about abortion. If you would study the website, www.abortionno.org you would change your mind about the use of pictures. I guarentee it. Go to the web-site and read the testamonials, you can find them under the public education resources tag and then click on evidence of changed minds. Then come back here and tell us if you still think we shouldn’t use the pictures because a precious few children may be upset by the pictures. That upset does not rise to the level of abuse. PLEASE!
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I do get a bad taste from abortion. the pics also leave a bad taste. To protest with those pics in a busy intersection is disgusting. There are other effective ways. I will not tolerate anyone coming up to my car with the pics. I will fight this method of protest. If I have to sue the organization who is using this method or press charges for harrassment. I am not condoning abortion just because I disagree with the pics. Anyone who is accusing me of doing so, needs to get their eyes checked.
 
mapleoak said:
Yes it is an opinion.My opinion is that it is the parents reaction to them that causes their children trauma and it is true. Since when does your opinion prohibit those who display graphic images the freedom to do so?
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It doesn’t prohibit it. But if i take these people to court for harassment, I hope it will change the method of th pics. Children know how to react. They have feelings too. Lets not act like parents tell children how to react.
 
There is a way to educate the woman who are considering abortion without being vile and disgusting.
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It may be true that we can educate “the woman” who might be considering abortion, without using aborted baby pictures but only if she will avail herself of that education. How do you propose we force women to avial themselves of that education?

If she simply goes to the abortion doctor, I assure you he will not offer “the woman” any education at all. He will simply tell her to slide her bottom down to the end of the table and he will perform the vile and disgusting (and painful, you forgot painful) and horrific and evil (you also forgot horrific and evil) porceedure on her and torture her unborn baby until he dies a violent death.

We are not talking about educating “the woman,” we are talking about educating the masses. Most of whom are very comfortable with their head stuck deeply in the sand. Most of whom don’t give abortion a second thought other than to say they don’t think they should prevent “the woman” from making that choice (see Marrietta’s posts on this thread). How do you propose we educate the masses without the aid of the pictures that prove that abortion is not just a woman’s right to choose but rather something vile and disgusting, horrific, painful, deadly, evil. You may use the words vile and disgusting to describe the pictures, if you wish, but these two words, nor any of the other words I’ve used don’t even begin to describe what the pictures depict.

I wish you would funnel your passion into pro-life activism instead of using it to badger the pro-lifers on this board.
 
carjack said:
It not always due to parental reactions. Making protest of murdered children is fine, shoving pictues of murdered babies in front of childrens faces is NOT!!
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It is always due to parental reactions. And attacking people who show abortion for what it is, supports the other side.
 
carjack said:
I am a prolifer. I don’t need to justify that to you.👍
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Pro-lifers believe in the personhood of the unborn. If you don’t believe the unborn are not human until they are born, it is no wonder that you think displaying graphic photos are a worse crime than saving the unborn.
 
mapleoak said:
Pro-lifers believe in the personhood of the unborn. If you don’t believe the unborn are not human until they are born, it is no wonder that you think displaying graphic photos are a worse crime than saving the unborn.
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I no longer feel that way. So again the pics are disgusting. I am a prolifer. Again, I don’t have to justify that to you:thumbsup: My community is taking the graphic protesters to court.
 
Carjack closes his post 1129 with this insult:
Or is that the only way you know how to communicate an idea or give out information?
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How many hours have you spent “giving out information.” And who did you give it to? Did you give it to fellow pro-lifers because they were the only ones to stop by your table at whatever venue you were in “giving out information?” Please tell us more about this process of “giving out information.” How effective is it? How many pro-aborts do you give this information to?

Putting an end to the genocide which is going on all around us and which we are forced to pay for is more than an “idea” to be “communicated.” It is a mission from God. It is our calling.

If all we had to do was “communicate an idea” with, and “give out information” to, “pro-choice”/pro-abort people and they would change their minds about abortion, why am I having such a hard time changing yours about the use of pictures.

GO TO THE WEBSITE!!!
 
Ok, let me get this straight. Someone suggests that maybe it’s not the best idea to shove pictures of aborted babies in the faces of preschoolers and now they’re pro-abortion???

How black and white is the planet you live on anyway??
 
MIZER said:
Carjack closes his post 1129 with this insult:

How many hours have you spent “giving out information.” And who did you give it to? Did you give it to fellow pro-lifers because they were the only ones to stop by your table at whatever venue you were in “giving out information?” Please tell us more about this process of “giving out information.” How effective is it? How many pro-aborts do you give this information to?

Putting an end to the genocide which is going on all around us and which we are forced to pay for is more than an “idea” to be “communicated.” It is a mission from God. It is our calling.

If all we had to do was “communicate an idea” with, and “give out information” to, “pro-choice”/pro-abort people and they would change their minds about abortion, why am I having such a hard time changing yours about the use of pictures.

GO TO THE WEBSITE!!!
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I went to the website it is disgusting like the methods you are using. What are you not getting??!?!?!
 
Hi Fitswimmer, thanks for wieghing back in.
but it does kind of shock me that so many people have no problem at all with graphic photos being shoved in the face of a 6 year old.
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I don’t know anyone who would not have a problem with people shoving graphic photos of any kind in the faces of 6 year olds. I would have such people charged with assault. Where do you go that this happens? Who are these people that are doing this?
 
mapleoak said:
How come the switch from us pro-lifers to other pro-lifers now?
No pretending allowed. :tsktsk:
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Because some of the wonderful people on this thread were patient with me and explained to me why I was wrong. They did this without th graphic pictures. Go figure. 😃
 
I am not saying to ignore the unborn. But lets not act like there are no children in the world to consider when displaying graphic and vile images of aborted babies. Children are being traumatized and this is a fact, which means that it is true. It is not an opinion. You opinion is false. Just because I don’t agree with the pics doesn’t mean that I don’t agree with the cause. Shock methods are not the only way to get a message across. By using the picture/shock method, you are making other pro-lifers look bad,
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Carjack,

You don’t know what you are talking about. You are overreacting to what you think you know about what you don’t know about what you are talking about. Who is acting like there are no children in the world? Who is saying the the children in the world shouldn’t be considered? We do not show the pictures to shock. We show the pictures to educate.

The fact that the pictures shock people is due to the fact that abortion is shocking.

I hope you will someday realize that it is not the pro-lifers who should look bad because they showed someone a picture of an abortion but rather that the abortion doctors should look bad for taking women’s money and doing what the pictures depict to a helpless and innocent little baby.
 
MIZER said:
Carjack,

You don’t know what you are talking about. You are overreacting to what you think you know about what you don’t know about what you are talking about. Who is acting like there are no children in the world? Who is saying the the children in the world shouldn’t be considered? We do not show the pictures to shock. We show the pictures to educate.

The fact that the pictures shock people is due to the fact that abortion is shocking.

I hope you will someday realize that it is not the pro-lifers who should look bad because they showed someone a picture of an abortion but rather that the abortion doctors should look bad for taking women’s money and doing what the pictures depict to a helpless and innocent little baby.
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The doctors should be ashamed of themselves. I never said otherwise. People can protest without being EXTREME. If children can read, that is fine, then they turn around and ask their parent what abortion is? By that point they are old enough to question it and have that dialogue with their parent. People should not be forced to look at violently murdered baby.
 
My community is taking the graphic protesters to court.
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You don’t say! What is the name of the defendant in the case? I would like to follow this. I agree that no one should assault another by “shoving graphic photos in their face.” If this can be proven to have happened your community may have a case. So if this is true then it is now a matter of public record. Tell us the name of the community or the name of the defendant so we can follow the results.
 
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