Pro-life “taking a stand” on an Airplane

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This crazy SJW should be criminally prosecuted and expelled from her college.

Hopefully they get the wife beater back to his own country soon.
 
This crazy SJW should be criminally prosecuted and expelled from her college.

Hopefully they get the wife beater back to his own country soon.
I am one of those crazy SJWs.

Caring about morality does not make her crazy. Not even if she was wrong in this case.
 
Caring about morality does not make her crazy.
Correct. What makes her crazy is that she thinks she has a right to bother ordinary people with her nonsense. Disrupting peoples’ lives and the operations of the state without a legitimate reason is immoral.
 
She could be fined or jailed for six months. It is ironic that the man wanted to be deported and will be.
 
It sounds like the only impact of this protest is to make her country waste extra money carrying out its duties:

It’s unclear if the man still faces deportation, but a Swedish West Region police spokesman told the Guardian that protests like Ersson’s usually lead to authorities renting “a private plane to send them back to Afghanistan, or wherever.”

The intentional omission of the reasons for his deportation make this article terrible “journalism.”
 
He WANTED to be deported? Why didn’t he just stop her from the whole phone protest then? Just wondering out loud.
 
It is ironic that the man wanted to be deported and will be.
What is your source for the report that the man wanted to be deported?
What makes her crazy is that she thinks she has a right to bother ordinary people with her nonsense.
I think it’s called free speech. And yes, free speech can be abused. It’s still a very important right.
He WANTED to be deported? Why didn’t he just stop her from the whole phone protest then?
A good question, supposing it’s true.
 
Refugees have an obligation to obey the law. If a refugee commits felonies in the country that takes him in, they are fully justified in sending him back where he came from, even if his death is likely to result. Yes, we must take in refugees in their hour of need, but not at the price of allowing criminals to prey on our citizens.
 
I got you here! Give unto Caesar, what is Caesars & to God, the things, that are Gods.
I love this one:ROMANS 13:1-14.
HEBREWS 13:17. TITUS 3:1. I PETER 2: 13-17. DANIEL 2:21. These are potent verses saying to listen to elected officials for God put them there.
The young child, so inexperienced in life, didn’t ask WHY, he was being deported? Had he committed a crime? Afghanistan is 70% civilized. He could join army & help protect his country.
Make sure he is fed, clothed , etc in the name of Jesus. Did the interpreter ask the guy,”WHATS UP?”
We are to love him. Pray for him. Our troops are over there!
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
Not every country has free speech. Just take a look at Canada that shuts down speech if they regard it has hate speech.
Did you mean to say that ‘this country has laws against hate speech’ equals ‘this country does not have freedom of speech’?
Because if so I disagree strongly with you.
 
The commands to welcome the stranger did not come with a bunch of “if/than” decision trees.
 
Hate Speech is the ONLY speech that needs protected.

Its a nothing burger to allow just the speech you appreciate and agree with. Anyone will do that.

True Freedom of Speech allows hate speech- other speech doesn’t need protected at all.
 
Did you mean to say that ‘this country has laws against hate speech’ equals ‘this country does not have freedom of speech’?
Because if so I disagree strongly with you.
who gets to define hate speech
 
This struck me the same way. Why didn’t he just tell her to sit down. Probably because they were not in the same part of the airplane and they never met. He was taken off the back of the plane and she was taken off the front.
 
The commands to welcome the stranger did not come with a bunch of “if/than” decision trees.
True. But neither did it come with a command to condone sins and crimes committed by the stranger, nor to make the stranger immune to our laws.
who gets to define hate speech
That is a very important question. But it is not the same question as to whether ‘freedom of speech’ requires us to tolerate hate speech.
 
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That is a very important question. But it is not the same question as to whether ‘freedom of speech’ requires us to tolerate hate speech.
how can you have free speech when you eliminate certain speech?

how would you define free speech?

what do you consider hate speech?

what do you want eliminated?

what if someone disagrees with your or anyone’s definition?

who becomes the arbitrator?
 
That is a very important question. But it is not the same question as to whether ‘freedom of speech’ requires us to tolerate hate speech.
how can you have free speech when you eliminate certain speech?
Hypothetical: I quarrel with Jimmie Sample, who lives near me. So for the next several days I wait outside Jimmie’s home every morning. When he comes out I follow him down the street yelling over and over “Jimmie’s a liar! Jimmie’s a thief! Jimmie Sample never pays his debts! Jimmie Sample beats his wife! Jimmie’s a stupid, stupid man!” ( Add other insults, including obscene language.)
When Jimmie complains I cite my rights to free speech.

Hypothetical question. Should I get away with it or does Jimmie have reasonable grounds to call the cops on me?

If the latter then you agree to at least some limits on freedom of speech.
how would you define free speech?
Freedom of speech under the law means you can’t be prosecuted or punished for what you say unless you commit a breach of the law in how you go about it.
I’m free to think all those things about Jimmie Sample, but not free to chase him down the street screaming at him; and not free to (for example) accuse him of beating his wife or cheating on his taxes unless I can offer reasonable evidence.
what do you consider hate speech?
Rough practical attempt at an answer:
Actively encouraging bigotry against and / or advocating maltreatment of a person or group because of their group membership, especially if it’s a group they were born into such as national origin, ethnic origin or gender: or a group defined by their beliefs such as a religion or religious denomination.
what do you want eliminated?
I would avoid the word ‘eliminated’. I want it to be illegal to indulge in hate speech. I want the targets of hate speech to have some useful legal recourse.
what if someone disagrees with your or anyone’s definition?

who becomes the arbitrator?
I leave that to the lawmakers.
 
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