"Pro multis"

[OLRansom]

…Because disciplinary infallibility prevents a pope from promulgating or approving an invalid rite.

This principle is sound, although it makes life interesting when one considers the fact that John Paul II approved of a “consecration formula”, in the case of the Assyrian Church of the East, which does not even contain the words of consecration!

 

[gorman64]

This principle is sound, although it makes life interesting when one considers the fact that John Paul II approved of a “consecration formula”, in the case of the Assyrian Church of the East, which does not even contain the words of consecration!

Dear OLRansom,

The principle is theologically certain…which means it’s true and it’s at least a mortal sin to deny it.

So, you either need to hold that the “consecration formula” (that does not confect the sacrament) is really not a problem…or the man who promulgated it must not have been a true pope. What other explanation is there for such a thing?

It couldn’t have come from the indefectible Catholic Church.

I wouldn’t call the current crisis in in Church interesting…it is a most grave situation. There are those who want to dismiss this crisis…and live in their own little world…where the Church can no longer be trusted.

Maybe somehow…by hook or by crook…those who attend these “Masses” will receive the Eucharist. According to sound sacramental theology, we know this cannot happen…yet there are some who just think it will happen…just because they think it.

Apparently, reality does not matter to them at all.

Gorman

 

[BobP123]

This principle is sound, although it makes life interesting when one considers the fact that John Paul II approved of a “consecration formula”, in the case of the Assyrian Church of the East, which does not even contain the words of consecration!

Where nothing is spoken, there is no audible lie.

 

[Jean_Anthony]

Please stay on topic. If you wish to discuss the validity of the consecration of various rites of the Church, please start a new thread in the Liturgy and Sacraments forum. Thank you.